I can only assume that the reason why, out of the last 7 races that I have done, in 2 of them the 'winning women' and in another 2 the leading vet 45 did not actually 'win'.
To be specific in the Brampton-Carlisle race the persons called called out to accept 1st and 2nd place over 45 did not appear at presentation, nor did anyone accept on their behalf. Subsequently they did not appear on the ranking lists. The same happened at Clitheroe 10k and the discovery made after presentation.
More importantly the first overall women did not appear at Garstang 10k presentation and on Sunday at Wrexham. However on Sunday, having been told throughout the race that I was in 2nd place, when I saw in the results and I was down as 3rd place, I was able to make enquiries and had alerted the organisers. Consequently when the listed person did not appear at presentation, they accepted that she did not exist and the right woman given 1st place.
This problem seems to be a more recent one and I know it is about your own target and goals, it is nevertheless annoying and unfair. It is good to get the recognition when you have really tried your best. But when you later find out that you were beaten by someoneone running in someone's number, it is very disappointing (I assume that women are giving their numbers to men)
If women were given a different coloured number then this problem could be solved and the increasing regularity with which this is happening should be looked at by race organisers who do a great job with the materials they have but with this small amendment could resolve the issue.(this solution was suggested to me by a someone who compiles a results page)
Have other women noticed this?
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Prize-winners very often don't make it to the presentation, either because it happens so long after they've finished, or because they weren't aware they'd won anything. To assume they must be men is a bit of a bizarre concept. Sure, if the organiser wants to award prizes only to the highest placed female who actually waited around, that's up to them, but it's a bit odd. But, as I say, you really can't assume they're men just because they're not at the prize-giving.
But yes, lady-boys winning prizes does happen from time to time (if there's a race photographer, they can be exposed properly - was there one at B-C?), and swapping numbers without going through the organisers is a scummy practice (for plenty of other reasons too). Sorry you've been messed about by a lowlife like that.
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You make a good point and would certainly make life easier for the results personnel. There does seem to be more number swapping these days as races fill up earlier each year so it's worth investigating. There may be similar issues with age category prizes but they may be more difficult to deal with.
As I am helping organise a race later this year I will see how easy it is to order different coloured numbers or perhaps allocate numbers by sex e.g 1-500 M, 501-1000 F.
As Swerve says, people don't always wait for presentations or know they have won a prize but then some races only give prizes for people attending the presentation. As long as presentations are carried out within a reasonable timeframe then perhaps this should be the best way.
i gotta start hanging around in case then!
granted i've only come top 10 in local 10k with 300 ish runners..but wortha go!
So a Half Marathon would be won in an hour and something. Do you wait around for another hour or so in order that most of the runners have finished or do it sooner ?
A lot of runners just finish and leave.
And when people do swap numbers (as they do) they should at least be aware of what chaos they cause if they finish in the prizes. If you do insist on doing that - then at least have the grace to finish out of contention.
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LOL Swerve
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I might be part of the reason why the prize winners might not collect their prizes. Organisers wait until most have finshed but by the time I finish they could have showered, dressed had lunch and a kip.
p.s. I am male.
I have only borrowed a number once and am now worried I might have won a FV prize by accident.
The anouncer said over the Tannoy
"And here comes number 317, Sammy .... er Sam Williams" as I crossed the line.
It never really occured to me until then.
Sorry.
Obviously I have changed the name of the lady involved.
If a race is full, and someone can't run because of illness, but someone else wants to run and hadn't got a place, then some people think it's ok to just hand over a number.
Aside from the prizes issue, if the replacement runner had an accident, they could jeopardise the race organisers insurance, because the original entrant would have been the one to sign any disclaimer, not the replacement.
Yes, it is happening more frequently because races are filling up.
Also I take your point about people not staying behind - the only reason I found out Sunday was because I wanted to leave! However, had I actually come 1st overall, I would have insisted we stay.I think overall winners normally stay for presentation or at least make their name known to organisers/collect prize before they leave.