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    I had a vague recollection that Muddy did something to do with computers.

    I won't comment on the meaning of sisyphean

     

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    literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    Maybe Skinny will look it up in his dictionary and then when it comes up on UniChall he will know the answer.

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    Ah now done - I appreciate this education and thanks to McFlooze for bringing this word up.

    If it ever does come up in UniChall I shall be even more appreciative!image

    Do I have to google comparatist too?

    EDIT: Okay I've done this - I can't imagine this knowledge ever being useful although I am trying to learn basic Polish so as a comparatist I might notice that the way Poles speak in English represents the way their own language works in that they don't use 'a' or 'the' because Polish doesn't use 'a' or 'the'.

     

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    DT19DT19 ✭✭✭

    That falls within my somewhat wise definition of 'works in IT', Muddy. 

    A lawyer is a generic term for anyone employedwithin a legal role. So the legal telephone advisor, the university graduate carring the files, right through to the qc. 

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    DT19 wrote (see)

    ... the university graduate carrying the files, 

    Hmmm - who the hell would carry the files if youngsters stop going to university? 

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    DT19DT19 ✭✭✭

    The level of people we have doing really low end jobs is frightening. You have lost graduate qualified aspiring lawyers in archiving or secretarial roles simply to get a law firm on the cv. 

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    I am thinking of becoming a trade negotiator as there's soon going to be a need for lots of them. Until I do the NVQ I work in broadcast journalism. 

    Track session tonight 3x500m, 4x400m, 5x300m ouch! 

     

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    I imagine we can expect a busy time for employment lawyers, sorry solicitors, too.
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    DT19DT19 ✭✭✭

    We keep getting calls from clients asking what will happen and what they now need to do. Our answer is that you need to do nothing and we know no more than you until the terms of an exit are agreed.

    I dont forsee much change as most of the employment law from Europe have been implemented into UK law at a higher standard than Europe required. 

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    DT19 wrote (see)

    That falls within my somewhat wise definition of 'works in IT', Muddy. 

     

    Damning yourself with faint praise there ! image

    Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)

    Wow Muddy that sounds exciting (but bet it isn't!image), quite a leap from physicist though.

     

    Yeah I won't bore you with the details ! I did agonise about the leap for a bit and there was a couple of years of pain as I started off in entry level positions, carrying files etc.image

    I mutated a 10 w 5 threshold into a 10 w 4 hm effort last night to kick off the week. Too much fatigue in my legs to really hit threshold effort but was pleasantly surprised with 6.15 min/mile-ish for the hm bit, which was at the low end of hm effort upon analysis afterwards.

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    muddyfunster wrote (see)
    Yeah I won't bore you with the details ! 

    I mutated a 10 w 5 threshold into a 10 w 4 hm effort last night to kick off the week. Too much fatigue in my legs to really hit threshold effort but was pleasantly surprised with 6.15 min/mile-ish for the hm bit, which was at the low end of hm effort upon analysis afterwards.

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    Only joking but the details why you moved from a physicist to a software designer for air traffic control do sound competitively interesting with above.image (this would have been funnier for me if you had slotted in a few HR stats too!)

    NB I am not saying that we should not post details of our sessions like the above - that is one of reasons why the thread exists, so we have someone to tell - I was just imagining a non runner reading the above.

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    Along a similar theme I'm running a 10k race with a big lump in the middle on Tuesday night and I'm struggling with pace I should run first 2 miles at before the hill.

    I've done no quality work other than MP once a month - latest being 6:41 av for 8 miles which is always done in my cutback week so probably gains me an extra 5 seconds.

    So LT is probably closer to MP than it normally would be - correct?

    So off 6:45 MP I'd get about 6:10 10k pace with a rounded training plan but I'm thinking 6:20 - 6:25 probably a more sensible starting pace and the pace up the hill will be whatever it is. Then there are 3 gently downhill miles to finish where if I have something left I can burn it off on those? I want it to be at race effort levels.

    Often somebody says something really sensible and helpful when I ask questions like this.

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    FFS Skinny - that like one of those 'last night I ran 5 miles in about 40 minutes.  Can I do a sub 4 marathon?' questions.

    The important bit is getting the pace right for the first two miles and I recon as long as you don't go any quick er than 6:06 you'll be ok.

    This makes no sense either:

    Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)

    Only joking but the details why you moved from a physicist to a software designer for air traffic control do sound competitively interesting with above.image (this would have been funnier for me if you had slotted in a few HR stats too!)

     You're welcome.

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    Yep! That's the kind of questions stupid silver leaguers ask of you experienced gold leaguer runners. 6:06 was a faster answer than I was expecting but I'll let you know on Wednesday morning if I survive.

    I was referring to Muddy saying he wouldn't bore us with the details of his job move and then furnishing us with the details of his run.

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    Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)

    NB I am not saying that we should not post details of our sessions like the above - that is one of reasons why the thread exists, so we have someone to tell - I was just imagining a non runner reading the above.

    I thought I'd better write something about running image  I sometimes make the mistake of mentioning what I am about to attempt to people in the office and you're right, it comes across as gobbledegook. We can catch up on career move details next April (by which time I will have forgotten.)

    I am intrigued by Velloo's place in broadcast journalism. In front of camera ? Puts me in mind of the Scottish correspondents on the news, looking miserable under a brolly against a backdrop of sleet.

    Skinny I think you ran a 10k relatively recently didn't you ? So if you can recall that effort I would start at that perceived effort and take the hit on pace on the uphill  rather than try to save yourself some effort for it. I would try to hold effort rather than pace through the hill as I think the risk of redlining (spending too much time in 5k+ effort levels) is that you won't make the most of the downhill and will tie up towards the end of the race. 

    Lou is suggesting no faster than 6.06 for the purposes of avoiding relegation I think ...

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    muddyfunster wrote (see)

    I am intrigued by Velloo's place in broadcast journalism. In front of camera ? Puts me in mind of the Scottish correspondents on the news, looking miserable under a brolly against a backdrop of sleet.

    Skinny I think you ran a 10k relatively recently didn't you ? So if you can recall that effort I would start at that perceived effort and take the hit on pace on the uphill  rather than try to save yourself some effort for it. I would try to hold effort rather than pace through the hill as I think the risk of redlining (spending too much time in 5k+ effort levels) is that you won't make the most of the downhill and will tie up towards the end of the race. 

    Lou is suggesting no faster than 6.06 for the purposes of avoiding relegation I think ...

    Re velloo - yes I got the same imageimage

    Re relatively recent 10k - mid April but my average miles are about 10 miles higher a week since then so I'm hoping I'm a bit quicker/stronger.

    6:06 - haha - I think my race will probably be the full distance imageimage so he could probably have said as low as 6:04 which was why I missed the joke!

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    macemace ✭✭✭

    All this talk of 6:xx miling and sessions ... how depressing image

    I'm beginning to feel like a bit of a slob as i've gone into almost total inactivity in a bid to give my foot chance to recover properly. Not even walking/cycling to work now, using the car for every journey, getting my kids to fetch stuff around the house, getting my kids to go to the shop for me etc etc

    Doctor Google is telling me this isn't PF so i'm hoping it's just a badly bruised heel. If it returns after my next test run it will have to be a visit to a real doctor i think.

     

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    Re: the point/question about lt getting closer to mp with no faster work, that hasn't been my experience when regaining fitness - threshold heart rate has shifted up a bit against a backdrop of just mp and hmp work.



    Why is mp just once a month btw ? I am roughly following P&D and the endurance mesocycle has them every fortnight interleaved with fortnightly threshold efforts.
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    Bad news Mace does walking hurt? I think I bruised my heel pad after London (I was jumping on my heels - not even drunk) but it only took a week to recover. Hope you get some answers soon.

    No I'm not in front of the camera, although sometime bits of me are… When you see the Scottish corr on the news there's usually someone like me in head to toe waterproofs standing out of shot with coffee to keep the talent happy image

     

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    muddyfunster wrote (see)
    Re: the point/question about lt getting closer to mp with no faster work, that hasn't been my experience when regaining fitness - threshold heart rate has shifted up a bit against a backdrop of just mp and hmp work.

    Why is mp just once a month btw ? I am roughly following P&D and the endurance mesocycle has them every fortnight interleaved with fortnightly threshold efforts.

    Fingers crossed you're right about the threshold pace. That would be an added bonus.

    Because I decided that I had to try something a little different to get out of the injury cycle and that the most important thing for me was to build my weekly mileage up to be ready for a marathon campaign which last time started off a background of 6 months on the injury bench.

    So I am racing every 4 weeks too and they are offset with the MP efforts so I'm doing some quality every two weeks.  But also my long run every week is about 35-40% of my total mileage so I'm being a naughty boy on that stat and have been for the last 12 weeks so whilst that remains the case I need to go easy on the quality to compensate.

    My staging post target race is a 20 miler in early September which I do not plan to race but also would like to run at around 7 min miles which is about planned Marathon pace so not far off racing.

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    literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    I agree with Muddy - if you don't know what pace to run at but you do know what it feels like to race a 10k you might as well just start running at whatever feels like 10k effort. I'm so far from being likely to run a PB any time soon that apart from London where I was pretty sure I would run exactly 2:58 and paced quite carefully, I'm just turning up to races and running them without looking at my watch. Strangely liberating.

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    Skinny Fetish Fan wrote (see)
    Also I've read the Amazon reviews on Charlie's books and I think specialises might be a bit generous image (although I'm sure he writes a much better book than I ever could).

    Oi! I'll have you know my my first book was shortlisted for the Prix SNCF du Polar, which is the French crime award. They at least get it!

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    SNCF is the French railway isn't it?



    Does that make it the Polar Express Prize?



    Anyhow I'm not adding it to the TTT image



    I'm telling yuz Chaz, it would do ma swede in.
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    literatinliteratin ✭✭✭

    I would be interested to know how the translator would render 'do ma swede in' in French. Charlie?

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    Could cause all sorts of confusion due to the swede or turnip question.  Where do the French stand on that?

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    Perhaps Lit is trying to squeeze a chapter into her current work on the goings on in Mangel down at the Premier night club?

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    McFloozeMcFlooze ✭✭✭

    I thought French people only feed swedes to cattle.  Turnips on the other hand...

    Was a fun 5k last night - rained heavily all day and so the ground was sodden.  There were a few sections on grass and along a trail path which led to everyone being plastered in mud.  Quite a few very sharp turns too and some narrow bottlenecks so despite being quite flat it wasn't quite as fast as many were hoping.  My shoelace came undone in the first kilometer.  Awesome.  Elected to leave it.  First mile came in 6:10, on target.  But was already gasping a bit and had settled into a place where I couldn't see any ladies near enough to chase down.  So ended up slowing slightly - 6:24.  Then 6:20 for final mile but felt I was running hard and would struggle to pick it up.  Final 450 metres are a lap and a bit of the track so raised the pace a bit for that bit. Came in at 19:48 which I believe is 1 more second off my PB. Hahaha.  I actually think that's pretty good given the conditions, shoelace etc.  6th lady.

     

     

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     Above updated for McFlooze knocking a further one second off her 5k PB - I've forgotten to update her WAVA but that has improved to 76.04% so snuck through another barrierimageimage.

    Keep going a this rate of improvement McF and in another 34 5ks you'll have a faster 5k time than me!image

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    McFloozeMcFlooze ✭✭✭

    My weight is a bit out of date too.  I've managed to pile 6lbs on in recent months image.  Feel free to leave it off the table.  9st 12lb. Need to cexit (leave my relationship with cake).  

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    MadbeeMadbee ✭✭✭

    Hi.  I'm not keeping up.  Shit stuff happening in real life so running hasn't been a priority. I mean, I'm still running 40-50 miles a week just for the hell of it, but it's totally unfocused and a load of junk miles.  Just thought I'd see what everyone was up to though and let you know I'm still alive and don't need to be deleted from the murky orange league just yetimage

    McF - Pls do not be doing another 5K.  I only have a second on you now  image

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