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Can I get last minute entry to London

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    Don't some races do a wristband system now?
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    IM races do - they wristband you as you register. No band - no race.
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    Kurt Gold wrote (see)

    of course it is jobsworths...the rules about non-transferable are there to stop people with no interest in running applying for loads of places then trying to sell them on, which is what they should be used for I completely agree....does it really matter if I give my place to a mate/relative?  If you're one of those folk who blindly follow any rule despite the logic behind it then fair enough, but I'm not 

     Well I hope you'll see from what the others have posted that those rules are actually there for other good reasons.

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    Millsy1977 wrote (see)
    Don't some races do a wristband system now?

    One or two European Marathons dropped that one in last year. A non reusable wristband fitted at the time of number collection. I'm sure if Kurt is in the porn industry there will be plenty of lubricant to hand to assist with a transfer should VMLM throw that one at Kurtimage

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    On the subject of transferring places, it's feasible that there could be a system in place to return an unwanted place by a given date (e.g. 12 weeks before race day) and then reallocate to a waiting list of those who failed to get a ballot place. The cost could be fully covered by the people who get a place on the wait list. e.g. if you get a place in the ballot, it's £40 or whatever, if not you go on a wait list. Then 12 weeks before the date they see how many returns they have (perhaps give people a £20 refund for their returns) and sell them on for £50 or £60 to the people on the wait list. Costs more than the original ballot place, but there'd be a long line of people willing to pay it. Additional cost covers admin, reduces the number of DNS.

    However, there's NO incentive for the race organisers to do this. The current system works very well for them as it is, with an annual ~30% DNS rate (all of whom have already paid in full).

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    They could only do it by allocating fewer places in the first place. They expect (and need) a certain drop-out rate. 

    If everybody with a place turned up it would be struggle to accommodate them all.

     

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    As Screamapillar says, they'd be struggling if everyone that got a place turned up.

    The drop out rate is all factored in to the overall plan.
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    Entering the race is entirely optional. If you don't like the rules, find an event which does have rules you like.

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    Racing a marathon is sub optimal prep for an IM, a rough rule of thumb (I'll get shotdown in flames for this I'm sure) is a day to recovery for every mile raced. Unless you're used to running 20+miles hard, then you're going to be IM training on tired legs for at least a fortnight afterwards. This will probably give you an increased chance of injury for the big day. Drop her off at the start and either jogto some points to see her or a shorter way to the finish in time for a relaxing beer in the sun and to pick her up

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    You could probably get away with running 20+ miles of the London marathon or any big city marathon. Jump in at the 1 or 2 mile mark and skip the last mile/finish line. 20 to 23 miles running alongside some of the best runners in the world. A great training run that clashes with the London marathon.

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    WilkieWilkie ✭✭✭
    Millsy1977 wrote (see)
    Someone did get busted on the Bath Half thread the other day trying to flog their spot.

     

    Spot?  SPOT??  image

    Have you become American, Millsy? 

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    Yeah - we call them 'tickets'... image



    I don't think I'd bandit the marathon to get a 20 miler in. I'd feel a fraud all of the way along - and there are more pleasant runs to be had than in a crowd of people and having to watch your feet all the way along.
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    we can work out Kurt's ironman  from the date and then wade into the swim I'm sure he won't mind a few hundred extra contestants in the water all punching and kicking at him......or maybe just joining in on the bike course and cutting him up ....

    why on earth would you want to run a race you haven't entered .........just because the rules don't apply......

    why don't the 100,000 odd  people who didn't get successful just turn up and run anyway.....

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    cougie wrote (see)
    Yeah - we call them 'tickets'... image

    I don't think I'd bandit the marathon to get a 20 miler in. I'd feel a fraud all of the way along - and there are more pleasant runs to be had than in a crowd of people and having to watch your feet all the way along.

    Plus, if someone does haul you off the course it's going to be bit embarrassing in front off all those spectators.

    Seren: Kurt did enter and got a place but intends to give it to his wife. Presumably she also entered but didn't get in.

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    I never get the point when people say you are running alongside the greatest runners. 99.9% of entrants will never even see the elites. That bloke who went sprinting off at the start last year was a decent sub 3 runner and he could only manage 400m.
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    Kurt Gold wrote (see)

    if the above fails...would there be anything to stop me running with her for, say, 25 miles then stopping to let her finish...they're public roads right, surely I can run on them without a number...

    LOL image

    Yeah, no sense in closing public roads. Come one come all. Friends, relatives, dogs, cars, buses. I can't see the problem image

    Millsy - if Farah DNF's I will dine off beating him in the London Marathon for years (assuming I don't DNF myself) image.

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    That's fair enough Tenjiso I will claim that as well. I won't claim that I was running "alongside" him though.
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    Haile was DNF the first year I ran.

    Truly I am a legend image 

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    So Kurt, is the m-i-l still running or has she swapped her place with someone???

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    Kurt now has her place.
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    Tenjiso wrote (see)
     

    Millsy - if Farah DNF's I will dine off beating him in the London Marathon for years (assuming I don't DNF myself) image.


    Join the thousands who did it last year.  I can back that up with a photo of the start, just to prove we were both there. image

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    GraemeK wrote (see)

    Racing a marathon is sub optimal prep for an IM, a rough rule of thumb (I'll get shotdown in flames for this I'm sure) is a day to recovery for every mile raced. Unless you're used to running 20+miles hard, then you're going to be IM training on tired legs for at least a fortnight afterwards.

    He doesn't say he's racing it, he wants to run round with his wife and I'm guessing he wouldn't suggest doing that if she was quicker than him.

    Even so, it doesn't take two weeks to recover from a marathon - certainly not to get riding, which is what you'd be doing at that point anyway, and most IM training is on tired legs...

    Unless you're going all out for the best time possible at IM, then as long as you've factored swimming & cycling into your marathon training then it's not a big deal doing a spring marathon (or in this case, a long run close to marathon distance)and a July IM.   

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    I remember some guy jumping out the crowd and running with his missus for a bit to encourage her. Her was nearly tripping me up and pissing me off. If he had tripped me up I would have stood on his neck. For quite some time.

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    When I went to Berlin a mate got his wife out of the crowd to run with him for the last 5k or so.  Nobody stopped her, and they'd have given her a medal at the finish if she hadn't refused one.

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    Millsy1977 wrote (see)
    I never get the point when people say you are running alongside the greatest runners. 99.9% of entrants will never even see the elites. That bloke who went sprinting off at the start last year was a decent sub 3 runner and he could only manage 400m.

    Well I saw the elites when I last ran London. They were running one way along the carriageway away from Docklands as I was running towards it!

    Not sure if it counts as "alongside" though.

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    a day per mile recovery?  LOL...if that was the case I'd only be running every 10 days or so...I did 15 miles on Tues night and my legs feel good as new now.  Right cheers for all the comments one and all...I hadn't factored in that it'll be super busy  (which is a far point) so I think I'll drop them off at the start line then do 20 miles or so myself on the (no doubt empty) other roads of London aiming to finish up somewhere near the marathon course to watch them finish.  And I'll remember the vaso in case it's a wristband jobimage

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    Ever ran a marathon in less than 5 hours Kurt "going for" Gold?

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    the recovery is after racing.......I guess you are not racing all your long runs as top pace....

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    MillsyMillsy ✭✭✭
    Kurt, it's. day per mile after racing not just general running.
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    I see the OP has changed his mind now, so good.  Berlin have good measures in place - wristband on before you leave the secure bib-collection area, and the women's bib numbers start with a big yellow F too.  Mind you didn't stop some total idiot at the finish line pin a women's number on and run in front of Wilson Kipsang at the finish line as he became the new world champion!!  After seeing that I cannot stand the idea of non-entrants running!

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