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Wossy gets £6,000,000 a year. He aint worth sixpence!
Sack him and 'wierdo' Brand!
Brand has a diminished sense of responsibilty and Ross a belief that he can do/say anything he likes. On balance the programme would have been better not broadcast, and for that "mistake" BBC management should take responsibily.
Never the less it's all pretty trivial stuff, but it is nice to see the pair of them squirming in discomfort - reaping what they've sown, so to speak.
However, suspension does not imply withholding of wages, so they'll most likely be reaping large sums of cash and acres of publicity, notwithstanding this shabby little affair.
seeing as there were only 2 complaints when it was first broadcast and there have now been around 30,000 complaints, i think we can safely say that there are a lot of sad c*nts out there who would probably be better off if they just got a hobby of some kind rather than complaining about stuff they haven't heard
although the whole thing has been worth it to watch the daily mail defend the innocence and honour of a girl in a burlesque act call the satanic sluts, that's fcking comedy gold!
Georgia's dad, the girl in question is 23 and a dancer with a group called "satanic sluts". She has just sold her story to The Sun. Don't think shes suffering really.
My general view is this has been blown out of proportion. With the problems the country is facing at present I am astounded that Gordon Brown has the time to make a comment on this.
Have you actually listed to it...........it really wasn't that bad
Brand's career highlights to date:
I only listened to Brand's Radio 2 show a couple of times, but I thought his off the wall comments were hilarious. Maybe he just tapped into my sense of humour.
As for Ross; I just think he's an obnoxious, pompous twat... No one is worth £6mil a year to do a bit of television and radio. There's only one other BBC employee I hate more, and that's Chris Moyles...
It's blame culture innit? 2 complaints then light the blue touch paper and stand back. Here's a bandwagon, let me jump on.
Brand and Ross egged each other on like norty boys. I found it funny but I like Brand's humour anyway. I'll miss his R2 podcast.
It's like the interview with Chrissy Hynde once on his show - it's a 'difficult' interview, it goes a bit wrong and Brand ends up rambling about having sex with Chrissy and her daughter in a 'moms & daughters' porn style. Er, no complaints there from BBC as I recall.
For what it's worth my view of where the Andrew Sachs scene went wrong was Brand and Ross thought they were speaking to Manuel, not Andrew Sachs. His persona as an actor was lost, so what followed was almost like acting and unreal. I think that's why it escalated in the way it did.
I don't think it matters if 2 people or 30,000 people complain. If one person doesn't like it and finds it insulting and offensive then clearly there is a problem. I've now listened to it and I found it offensive and I'm hardly snow white. If any of us were to phone a colleague or a client and leave such a message, then we'd probably be sacked.
Thankfully Russell Brand has gone although he'll be back on another channel imminently, although why anyone finds him funny is beyond me.
And now Jonathan Ross is suspended for 3 months without pay (big deal!). Sadly he'll be back too.
I'm amazed by the number of people (in the press, and some on here) saying "it's funny" or "it's not funny". Is that relevant?
Surely the question of whether what they did was wrong, has nothing much to do with whether it was funny?
Latest:
Ross; suspended for 12 weeks without pay....Fuck it's like being a pro fotballer
Its rather funny that a thread about the outrage over this has produced so much swearing itself...
Saw a classic on the 'Sun' noticeboard this week (I just followed a link - honest).
'Brand and Ross are crude - they should be sacked. The ar$eh*les'
Sezz - I really dont think you can say that if just one person complained - then theres a problem. I bet theres not one programme each week that wouldnt get some nutter complaining. I really dont give a damn about any soaps or all of that reality tv crap - so I just dont watch it. If others want to - then its up to them. I'm not censoring them - so why should they be able to do it to me.
The Ross ban is OTT and more a reflection of what people think about his salary. They've taken the repeat of Film 2008 off on Saturday. Who does that help ? Is Ross punished somehow ? A complete over reaction and we'll end up with bland playing safe entertainment.
Brand was on his Ponderland show on C4 last night - yeah rude - but funny.
Yeah, he IS funny ... but I dont think that makes any difference.
If I phoned someone up, on a work phone in work time, and left an abusive message, I'd get sacked.
And if everyone standing around though it was hilarious, that wouldn't get me out of it. Actually it'd probably make it worse. I don't think he should be sacked for being unfunny, because he isn't; nor for offending the listeners, because he didn't. I think he (Ross) should be sacked for making abusive phone calls. Isn't that, in fact, illegal?
He's employed to entertain - in his 'near the knuckle' style - both Brand and Ross. They will both go over the top sometimes - all comedians do. This should have been edited out - but it wasnt.
If we want comedy like this - we've got to realise that it will step over the boundary occasionally - and be grown up enoughto accept the apologies. Havent we all said something off the cuff that we regretted later ? What Ross said sounded just like that to me - it didnt seem to be a rehearsed routine.
Please god dont let Mark Lamarr cover for him on R2.
They deserved a penalty, partly for what they did but more for bringing their employer into disrepute. They provided ammunition for the Beeb's many enemies (like the Daily Mail and Murdoch empire) at an already sensitive time for the corporation. That was the real offence. They should have known better, as should have the supervising editors.
I work for the Beeb, in the news rather than entertainment part. I can say with hand on heart that the Beeb's own extensive news coverage of the affair is in no way related to Woss's assertion a while back, at a time of cutbacks in the news department, that he was worth 1,000 news journalists. No siree, not a bit of it.