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For sure Gaz, but we've got a bit off-topic, as we're supposed to be helping S the B to be less sad by helping her find a way to run without knackering her knees.
By the way, I've always had a bit of a 'thing' about knees
OK I know I'm weird.
OK, so I've been drinking again...
<<breaks wind>>
Aaaahhh... <<no appropriate smiley for the particularly satisfying glow of a good beery fart>>
For sale: one pair of dodgy knees. Suitable for person with knee fetish. All reasonable offers considered. Owner not included.
I have dodgy knees/hamstring and had a similar conversation with my physio. He said that by the time I'm 40 I'll really need to reassess how much I am doing because the way I'm built isn't really suited to long-distance running. For now though, I have stretches/exercises and really good trainers to minimise the damage and if things get bad I have acupuncture.
Hope this helps!
xx
I can't rave enough about stretching. I never used to do it, and have been running for years. I was an accident waiting to happen.
Surprise, surprise, I've ended up with a list of injuries - nothing major, thankfully I was lucky, but a big warning. I'm now seeing an osteo, who has givem me a ticking off and a series of exercises stretches to do twice a day. The difference is phenomenal!
Thanks for the advice
I'd not thought of seeing a podiatrist, WCD, will definitely look into that. I wonder whether I can do that on the NHS? It would probably take a while to get a referral, but would be cheaper!
Good luck with the London marathon by the way! That was (is...) my goal... maybe one day!
Bunches - the physio also told me to cut back on my classes
Apparently I'm 'allowed' to do one combat class a week as a 'treat'... pump is a no-no (according to the dear old fizz) - since weight bearing is the problem (even just standing, I'm loading my knees wrongly) then adding extra weight isn't too clever. Sod it though, I'm not going to stop everything I like doing - I'm just planning on dropping the weight I take on the leg tracks in pump, and I have no intention of cutting back on combat 
Hash - I do lots of stretching. I didn't when I first started - soooo much stiffness and aches the next day! But I've got into a pretty good routine now. I think my hamstrings are quite tight though, so I might try yoga or pilates or something a bit more focused on sorting them out.
Sarah, I had terribly tight hammies and I managed to sort mine out by doing the classic hamstring stretches -
this link also has all the stretches that I do for over-pronation, knock knees etc (old age
too!!)
stretches
I've managed to loosen hammies a lot by doing these 2/3 times every day. Might sound excessive, but it works
PS This was me, warming up this morning
Sarah, its a podiatrist you will see for orthotics, your GP should refer you.
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You know, between the lot of us we give cracking good advice when we want to. I've just had a read back, picked up a few good pointers for me too.
Just thinking how far we've shifted from the dispair of the original doom and gloom from Sarah's physio.
Good, innit?
Re podiatrist - don't want to be bearer of bad news, but be careful.
I was referred to one who was awful. I wear custom made orthotics and this particular pod had a pair made but instead of arranging a fitting, she had them sent to my home address. They were wrong for a number of reasons but when I told her she told me to ring the suppliers and discuss this with them myself.
I declined on the grounds that I'm not qualified and asked for a fitting. She told me to return the orthotics to her saying that she would contact me.
She didn't.
6 weeks later, no news (and no fitting) and when I finally managed to get hold of her, I discovered that she had disposed of the orthotics. She said this had an "expensive mistake" but that if I wanted some orthotics, she could try a different supplier, but would have to charge me again - for exactly the same appointments that I'd already had and paid for. I'd lost all faith in her by then, so told her that I would need to make alternative arrangements.
This whole mess took over 6 months, from my first appointment to finally getting some answers from her.
I've now got a brilliant pod - who managed to get me 2 new pairs of orthotics and my own pair refurbished within 4 weeks.
If you can find a pod who is recommended by physio/running shop/runners, then hopefully, you'll be OK. You want to make sure they specialise in biomechanical stuff, I think that my "bad pod" was more of a chiropodist than a biomechanical specialist.
Very good
Ta very muchly for all of the advice. I am much more positive now
All set for my run tomorrow (5K around a lake in Milton Keynes in aid of Bowel Cancer UK) and then off to uni on Monday. Will definitely hunt down a running club and see if I can get some advice and some pointers on podiatrists/sports physios in the area. Although I think I will try the NHS route for the pod. Hopefully will get referred to a good 'un!
Not "biomechanically suited to running"? There aren't many who are. Them that are, tend to be the elite lot. 's not a reason not to run.
However, if you already have degenerative changes in your knees, I'd be more careful and maybe consider more non-weight bearing exercise like swimming or cycling. Not to say don't run, but run with caution and cross-train.
I always tell my arthitis patients that they must keep active, rather than taking to their chairs - helps in the long run, innit.
So - in conclusion....come over to the Dark Side. You know you want to
Is your name Hilary? Are you a physio? Did I see you last week? That is almost verbatim!! Except for the dark side bit...
I have just discovered that I can get 10% off bikes at Halfords (woo hoo for student discount!) - but I have no idea about bikes so need to do a wee bit of research and a lot of saving.
Wait... do you hear that? The dark side is calling to me...
LOL no my name's not Hiliary and I'm not a physio. I'm a GP
Bloody pain in the butt, us health pros, aren't we? 
Feel the force, Sarah, feel the force....
Good luck sarah - oh and the dark side is where all the fun is!
Does black and yellow suit you? 
I think we have talked Lee the Pea into it Sarah, JFDI is the phrase you need to remember.
The force is strong Sarah
*a blood curdling scream is heard as LtP falls into the abyss......*
*weeps*
Oh but hang on, this must mean....
yeeeeeaaaaaaahhhhh!! Which one are you doing?
*passes Lea an armband*
Ahem..... I've just realised how bad that might sound. Inflatable and pink, for clarification!
Cheshire Tri in May Basil. I think I blacked out, then when I came too, it seemed as though someone had stolen my credit card and entered me into the tri
Sarah, escape while you can.....