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Don't like it either. Worst thing is threads go back to first post on bookmarked threads.
Normal service will be resumed on that today, sorry. In the meantime have you tried the new 'followed threads' page? In some ways it's a useful alternative to the bookmarks page in that it's easier to see which threads have been replied to recently:
I'll drop you a line to find out more
Might be great if it worked but it's incompetently rolled out while still full of bugs.
Slow to load - though better today than yesterday; quote function seems to fail for a number of us; bookmarks don't work properly; cursor not visible.
It has got faster, thankfully. It was dreadful yesterday!
I don't like it either..... why do you have to change things, when there was nothing wrong with them? Software changes yes, but why the visuals? I don't like the way the screen whizzes down, nor that when you press a thread it autmatically goes to the first page, instead of last.
To be fair, we did invite you all to come and try the new format back on March (in fact this thread was started then, and has been pinned to the top of the General folder since then - you can see on the first page of the thread)
Feedback was - surprisingly - good, and we addressed what seemed like the key issues before the rollout.
But I'll be the first to acknowledge that new issues come up when products are set fully live, some which could have been foreseen or better tested, and some which are less predictable (eg bookmarks).
One one level we'd much rather have left the forums exactly as they were, but the pages were written in a very old programming language (.asp) and becoming harder to maintain and integrate with the rest of the site.
That's all a very long way of saying we appreciate your bearing with us over the transition, we're listening, and reacting as fast as we can
To reiterate re clicking to first/last page in a thread - that's being fixed today. It should be fine from within the forum already, but it wasn't working properly from the bookmarks and My Forum pages. RW had different database settings from other sites.
And for now as an alternative to forum bookmarks, have you tried the new 'followed threads' page? In some ways it's handier in that it's easier to see which threads have been replied to recently:
Thanks, Sean, for making that clear... x
To be fair to Fishpoo and RW, they did ask for people's input ages ago and lots of us made comments, suggestions (and moans).
Wilks is right - the changes have been known about for some time so I don't see why people are bleating about it now - it's not exactly the end of the world is it?? From memory, this is about the 4th major layout change since I joined - when this place was mainly fields
- and people have always ranted about the changes at the time. Guess what happens?? Nothing - people adapt like they do when many things change.
And each change has mainly been for the better with new features added. I quite like what they've done this time - be even better when they fix some of the minor issues.
Pishfool - good job mate - just ignore the naysayers.....
OK, so that made me laugh
And without realising it you probably also made Cheerful Dave chuckle too...
HATE THE NEW FORMAT !
Hate it , hate it , hate it .
What more can I say ?
oh yeah
Hate it , hate it , hate it !
I don't think it looks that different so can't understand the passionate hatred some of you feel. We'll all get used to it.
Sean - thanks for the update.
A couple of new bugs I've found;
1. Clicking the go to last post arrow from the list of threads doesn't seem to be working. You get taken to the last page (sometimes, see below) but not the last post as previously.
2. The main thread I use, Crap at Relationships in Clubhouse, clicking on the last post arrow takes me to page 1000, not the last page and certainy not the last post.
I'm using FireFox 11 on a Windows 7 machine. I've not noticed any problems on iPhone. Oh, and can you sort out the place holder sizing for our avatars please. No one likes looking squished. Thanks
[updated at 4.25pm]
Hello all
thanks as ever for the feedback. Here's a quick update - please don't be backward about coming forward if I've left anything off
Fixed, signed off
To address
Don't like when you hover over person's avatar a big block box opens up and obscures the post
I agree with muskeeter on that one - it's an annoyance. and when it comes up I don't see the point of listing how many posts, photos etc - that's quite intrusive and somewhat private info imho
why not just have a message/ignore button on it ??
Don't hover over rhe avatar then. That information was previously shown at the top of each post.
When typing, the cursor disappears if you try and move it to edit whilst writing. Moving text is difficult also due to the disappearing cursor.
Thanks for the balance of posts, much appreciated.
I've updated the 'done' list a few posts above this one. Hopefully we're in a good shape to leave it for the weekend now...
Sarah, I'll drop you a line to find out more.
Terence, FB: I agree the box could be more elegant, and we could possibly make it switch-offable on your settings page. We'll have a mull. I've always quite liked the stats links, not so much from a 'high numbers = kudos' perspective, but because you can click though and see the reviews etc that the person has done.
How do you message someone? I see a little message tab at the bottom of the black box but it disappears when I try to click on it.
TE - easier said than done sometimes. I don't disagree btw - but it's like some of the hyperlinks in webpages that pop up an info box if you happen to move over them - it can be bloody annoying!
Sean - why not put the stats info into someones profile so if people are curious about a person, they can dig around in their profile. and give users the chance to opt out (as there is with forum post count) if they don't want certain things seen. many fora have options that you can opt in and out of which are more extensive than RW's
This change reminded me of this cartoon http://blog.thingsdesigner.com/uploads/id/tree_swing_development_requirements.jpg
Hope everybody gets what they want soon!
Hmmmm .......
Tried the new Followed Threads funntion. By default it emails when a post is made. If I remove the notifcation, becasue it's annoying, the thread is removed from the Followed Threads list. Is this how it's supposed to work?
better then the old verson even on google chrome we can get the smileys
And the Crapster thread problem has fixed itself now that it's on page 1002. Obviously a bug in there though with a 1000 page count. Not something that'll crop up too often.
And yet there's a long list of things that have had to be fixed, with plenty more to come. Like quoting: to get this text below the quote above, I had to insert some returns to create blank lines before inserting the quote at the top. Inserting the quote straight away meant any text I was typing went straight into the quoted bit.
It's not the changes I object to, I'm sure there are very good reasons for it, but launching anything else that was so fundamentaly broken would result in a product recall. Here, it seems to be down to the users to find the faults for you. Have you not heard of quality control?
Second that cheerful Dave. I like Improvements and changes that push things forward but at least present a finished working model not something where there are parts still in the box the glue is dry and there are parts still in the box yet the paint is being applied.