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Jools - Nice parkrun pace. Awesome miles too!
TR - Nice tempo.
Hamo - Nice 8 miler.
John - Sorry to hear that Canberra is also off!
Cal - Not a great week, but chin up.
So Manchester was postponed on Friday, but I still went out to do my training like the rest of you!! 23 miles on Saturday, felt good and was tempted to carry on to marathon distance, but decided against it. 8 miles with strides on Sunday followed by kettlebells. That finished off a 69 mile week. My right shin and back of my knee was sore on Sunday, so I think taper has started at just the right time!!
Welcome back FBT
Comrades is looking more doubtful by the day. Now a travel ban on entering SA until Easter, at the earliest. Hopefully if it`s still not possible to fly there BA will cancel the flights rather than the customer. Al my other races have now been cancelled or postponed until the autumn so some decisions to be made at some point as would be foolish to do them all in such a short period.
Hoping we will still be able to get out and run solo for the foreseeable, but think I`ll cut back my planned 80+ mile weeks and aim to tick over at 50-60 until the future is a bit clearer. Have also cancelled seeing my parents over Easter as my Dad is currently undergoing cancer treatment and my Mum`s OH has lung issues.
Stay safe everyone
TR...That's it, i like to think im healthy enough to not be too badly affected by it, but its the people in my close family who i am concerned about and wouldnt like to spread anything to them. Good tempo run, you really seem to excel at them.
AWC...There is most definitely dicks in cars. Hope your Achilles improves, nice cycling all the same.
John...Nice MLR. Yea the majors will come thick and fast in the Autumn, it will be interesting if nothing else.
Cal...You are having a rough time of it, keep the head up. Hope the back continues to improve, nice 8 miler, and the dentist can sort you for a fair price.
Macca...Good LR. Im mulling over finishing the plan (when Belfast finally officially pulls the plug, pretty sure id not race it even if it did go ahead though) with a full solo marathon, but dont know. Congrats on the Spartathlon, excellent news.
Jools...Big week, and quick parkrun, nice sub 20, well done.
So after London announced on Friday evening that they were postponing al our local races that were hanging on by their fingernails let go and postponed and cancelled. So Sundays race was a no go. I went to bed on Friday unsure what to do running wise, but when i woke up on Saturday morning I decided to give the parkrun a good crack and at least get 1 'race' out of this training block. So a quicker than ideal 'warm up' run down to the parkrun, 4.5 miles @ 6.40 pace, got me to the start with 2 mins to spare. I ran it full tilt, but still was shocked to see 15.51 on my watch at the finish, never seen a sub 16 coming at all. That was good enough for 1st, and a write up/mention on the Fast Running website, for being the 2nd quickest man in Ireland* at the parkrun at the weekend (*Just Northern Ireland really, as all mass events down south are banned at the minute and so no parkruns were ran). The most pleasing thing about it all was my splits, 5.05, 5.06, 5.07 and 4.34 for the change (Strava GAP thing has it as 5.04, 5.03, 5.02 and 4.33 as its a bit of a bumpy route), im never that consistent, usually balls out at the start and die/hang on at the end.
8 very hungover miles on Sunday brought me to 89 for the week.
Double recovery day today, 2 6's to start of this week.
Steve...Nice long run and big week. Hope the taper works for your shin and knee.
Millsy..Yea, some decisions to be made alright. Hope your family stays safe, sensible, right but i'm sure hard decision you've made.
Hamo - fantastic run as always, real shame for you that you won’t get to prove your potential just yet but only a matter of time. Keep the consistency and I think we’ll see something special in the Autumn.
I cant see any races going on for a few months after today's prime minister's address. Seems kind of unimportant anyway. Time to enjoy being outside whilst we can.
Just the 10M bike/10M run commuting combo for me today.
10 miles this morning - lovely sunny but cool Spring weather again. I'm praying they don't ban us from going outdoors at any point. The SI joint seems a lot better (I was worried marshalling at TR 20 would aggravate it, but I think all the stretching I did while standing around may well have helped) and I managed to get an appointment with the dentist yesterday so my crown is back where it should be.
TR...100%, time to just run for the enjoyment, and appreciate that we can. Thank you, and vice versa, its nice to know that there's someone doing the same runs for the same goals as me...same again starting around June time?
Jools...Cheers Jools, it gives me a time to aim for when the training starts again. Nice bike and run combo.
10 mile with 8 strides this morning, eerily quiet on the roads, but probably not helped by the fact it is Paddys day and so most people are off.
Hamo - WOW, superb time in the middle of marathon training, it's a shame you won't be able to have a crack at 2:30 in London.
Jools - Nice commute combo!
Shin/back of knee seems much better, so a 12 mile MLR today to kick off the first run of taper!
Good work everyone cracking on with training despite all the cancellations. Obviously it’s nothing in the grand scheme of things, but must be frustrating nonetheless. Still, it brought FBT back to the thread, so every cloud!
Too much to go back over yet again, but huge congratulations Hamo on the sub-16. Incredible stuff, your progression since joining this thread is a real inspiration.
My return to running a few weeks ago was a bit of a disaster. Three miles felt ok, but hamstrings were not happy afterwards, almost felt like I was back to square one. So yet more time off it seems.
Up until now I’d been coping relatively well with not being able to run, but in the past week or so I’ve really been missing it. More on a mental health than physical health front to be honest. Like others have said, hard not to be anxious in these strange times, and running is always such a great head clearer. I’m going to try to at least get on the bike more, but it’s not the same as running.
My sister and her family are currently self-isolating as my youngest nephew had a fever and cough develop last week. Thankfully he seems to be getting better today, but it will be a long 14 days for them.
Stay healthy everyone.
Well done to everyone who is currently getting out there. I am still cracking on - my ultra (end of June) has not been cancelled yet although I expect it will be, but if the race ban ends during the summer I want to be ready to jump into an alternative if possible. I am also aiming to run 2000 (or 2020) miles this year so still hoping I can manage that.
To that end, today's offering was 9 miles with 3 at LT pace (or close enough - first was a little slow, last a little fast, middle one just right). I'm not great at judging the pace (especially as my Garmin is no help whatsoever) so I'd like to get more used to LT pace so once I can officially start training for the next marathon, whenever that is, I can give P&D a proper bash.
had a good look at the calendar yesterday and "if" VLM goes ahead in October that leaves almost 30 weeks of training and possibly no tune up races.
Will cut back the miles to 50-60 for the next few weeks until the picture gets a bit clearer as 70-85 is unsustainable, especially mentally, for me. Will try and get back in the gym (garage) a couple more times a week and work on any weaknesses.
TR - As usual nice consistent miles.
SQ - That's a big week, and superb long run.
Millsy - Sounds like you have a good plan there with the reduced miles for a while.
Spoons - Good to see you back.
Cal - Nice run, will be interesting to see how much you can knock off your PB following a P&D plan, as I suspect you were already in PB shape for Tokyo.
5 miles recovery with strides this morning followed by a kettlebell workout. 5 miles planned for later.
Question - I'd planned to use the turbo for a couple of weeks after the marathon, but with no race, is this now necessary? Thinking I may just cut the mileage until I need to start a plan again, as like Millsy said, I don't think I can maintain 60-70 a week with no race in the diary.
TR...Good MLR and strides. I hope you get to race at least some of those 10k's and this doesn't last too long. But most importantly, i sincerely hope your Father can avoid this, and is fine. The news is just flat out at the minute, which can be very overwhelming at times i agree, which is where i find running helps.
SQ...Hope your Daughter and family are ok first and foremost. Big week that, well done on the LR, love a bit of 90's dance on some of my faster runs too
Spoons...Thanks Spoons, and good to see you posting again. I really hope your Sister, Nephew and family are ok, and i am sure they will be. I agree, i'm enjoying running as a head clearer with no pressure at the minute. Hope you can get back at it soon, but enjoy the cycling in the meantime.
Cal...It is good to keep a goal like that, especially at the minute. Good LT work, its mentally tough to force yourself through sessions at the best of times, never mind when there is no race in sight. I reckon you'd do good things following a p&d plan.
Millsy...Good idea cutting back on the mileage. I'm debating it over and over at the minute myself, cant decide whether to finish this plan, then cut back. Finish the plan to the taper point, then cut back, or, as of this mornings thoughts, finish the plan this week and cut back. Dunno, cant seem to focus and pick the best one (if there even is a best option).
Anyway, I was out late last night, so this mornings planned MLR of 15 mile was never going to happen. Decided to swap Fridays 12 miler with 7@LT to this morning and see how i got on. Then, like most of the above brain fart, i changed my mind again about what i wanted to do/was best during the warm up, and thought I fancied a change, so ran 13 miles with 3x (2.5 mile at LT pace off 2.5 min 7-7.30 min mile recoveries). It was nice to do a new session, and it went well, the efforts per mile coming out at 5.22, 5.32, 2.42 / 5.24, 5.29, 2.41 / 5.22, 5.32, 2.50 (the last half mile was uphill). So pleased with it, and it is nice to have the freedom to swap it up and try new things with no pressure.
Millsy - im hoping that as the restrictions drop we'll be able to race in july and august.
Hamo - good idea to do a few sessions that are off plan and a nice change.
Had a sore throat false alarm overnight due to snoring (apparantly!) caused by a bit of a cold, it came to nothing.
10m easy pace. Will keep ticking over.
Sorry to hear you're still struggling with the hammy's Spoons but good to hear from you.
More crazily speedy antics Hamo. Good to hear it's not just me makes up a session and then adjusts it as I'm warming up.
Straight back to it then Steve
Good luck with the 2020 goal Cal. Will that be your biggest annual mileage ever? Bodes well for a decent mara PB when racing resumes.
Steady as a rock TR.
I agree Millsy. I can do 70 consistently but 60ish is far more manageable. No point burning out before any racing can start again.
I did another 10M run/10M bike commute yesterday & bashed out a 5M progression on the TM at lunch: started at 8:00 & got to 6:00 min/mile before winding down over the final 2K. 6:48 average & felt in control the whole time
Jools - Nice commute double.
Hamo - Speedy as usual!
11 mile MLR today, legs needed a few miles to warm up before it felt easier!
Another day of rain. Really didn't fancy getting soaked twice & soon I won't have the option of the treadmill so decided to drive in & do a 5K TT on it. Did 1K@8:00/1K@6:48/5K in 18:35/warm down for 3K - 10K in 42:10 all in. I know the TM is easier than real world running but further proof that I'm in decent nick. I stuck at 6:00 for the first 4K then ramped it up slightly over the final K.
SQ...The assault course sounds class, bet you had fun. Hope your Daughters temp comes down soon, amazing how quickly they can bounce back. Good tempo effort, punchy wee session alright.
Jools...Lovely progression, even better that you felt in control the whole time. The fitness will stay, or not take long to get back, more to gain by ticking over and not burning yourself out as you say. That treadmill TT definitely proves you are in top nick at the minute.
Steve...Nice MLR. Have Manchester not released their new date yet?
Decided last night i'm going to finish this week following the plan, then from next week cut back to 70-80 mile weeks, mostly easy running but the odd session threw in when i feel like it, and restart the plan when the time comes. No point burning myself out, or leaving the wife stuck in the house alone with the kids doing double days and such, when she is now their teacher, keeper, mother etc all day every day, when at the minute I'm still at work...vast majority of my running is in the morning before the world wakes, and especially before my lazy hallions wake
6 and 5 recovery runs for today in glorious weather.
Jools - Great TT on the TM, you defo are in shape for a quick time. Sub 3 I'd guess?
Meanwhile I'm hearing about a London lockdown and I really hope that doesn't mean we'll be forced indoors like the Spanish.
Thoughts to anyone with increased anxiety during these times. I’ve been wfh for 2 years now so day to day is not that different but the complete absorption of 24hr available news doesn’t feel healthy.