Wayfarer, I can understand your post's point, and agree that for us watching a marathon, to get overly worked up about it is pointless. A strong reaction (if probably overstated in the heat of the moment) from forumites and commentators is understandable though out of empathy for De Lima, for whom leading an Olympic marathon is 'real life', and the high point of a professional life that requires a lot more than just 9-5 and then do what you like. I can understand the strength of reaction from the commentary team, because they can both associate with what it would have been like for them if they had been in a position of chasing Olympic gold and had they're chance ruined by an idiot like that. I'd have been fuming and wanting to do unimaginable things to the guilty party if I'd been assaulted when leading a local 5k, so for a guy leading the Olympic marathon, it is a truly horrible thing to happen, and definitely real life.
Can't belive that the police/marshalls didn't spot the so and so sooner - he came accross the road - Thankfully the crowd sorted him out what a shame - Lima may not have won as he was slowing - but we will never know Think the protester should be made to run a marathon in the same heat as Paula's run - with a cattle prod behind him to make sure he doesn't pull out to see how it feels!
As far as I know Waldemar Cierpinski (1976,1980) was a result of East Germany's systematic doping programme. However, the East Germans had a useful system to get young people involved in athletics and identify talented athletes.
Who's been the outstanding athlete of these Games for you then? Or the one(s) who has/have done way better than what was expected of them?
A lot of people talk of M Phelps. I didn't watch much of the swimming (not really my sport) so can't really approve of disapprove of that.
I haven't watched everything else either but I think I'll go for Deena KASTOR for coming 3rd in the womens marathon. I never heard of her before as nobody mentioned her beforehand as a possible medallist. Moreover, she achieved a season's best in THOSE conditions.
A bit like the feat that T Morris achieved at the FLM.
A lot of people (at least) on letsrun.com say that American long distance running *****. Well, they got a silver and bronze medal in the marathon. Really a big suprise.
I think Kelly Holmes and Hicham El Gerrouj have been outstanding.
Keflezighi was born in Eritrea, but moved to the US in 1987 and took citizenship in 1998. So he is not as much a pretend American as some of the other athletes out there are pretending for other countries.
El Guerrouj is outstanding athlete for me, the 1500/5000 should be a near impossible double, and racing Bekele and Kipchoge he also did it against some truly great rivals. Agree with honourable mentions for Wiggins, Holmes and Phelps. Baldini's performance should be given a heck of a lot of credit as well, in an era when Europeans win few top marathons of any description, never mind the Olympic marathon.
Shame the F1 boys didn't run him over at Silverstone. took a while for the TV to catch up on who he was - you don't forget that costume in a hurry - i took one look and remembered the sight of the pratt running down an F1 track
Likewise, thought EGs 5k win was the performance of the games - at least in the bits I watched - and he beat a guy that appeared unbeatable after the 10k.
Bradley Wiggins also because he beat a top rider for his gold - and of course Holmes' double was fantastic - and when I saw that about 9 of the first 10 in the 1500 ran a pb (pretty sure it was a pb - maybe a sb if not) that shows what a win it was.
Deena Kastor for her brave run from the back of the marathon-however I rated her before this marathon as she finished 4th I think in FLM and I read an article on her about how hard she was training for this.
I remember that Deena Kastor paced two younger runners for 20m in last year's New York City marathon. She was hoping to help them to qualify for the US trails.
For Team GB, I thought Amir Khan the 17 year old finalist is worth mentioning. He had to fight the double Olympic champion and 3x world champion and actually didn't looked too bad!
Back to the marathon. Both races were very interesting to watch. There seems to be two camps of runners. There are the championship type runners, like Baldini, Jon Brown, Ndereba and Noguchi. On the other end there are the flat course fast runners like Tergat, Khannouchi, Radcliffe, though they all seem to struggle in big events.
Getting a holiday in Athens was probably part of his punishment from the English court. And if the Greeks punish him too much our beloved Government will soon be on their backs.
OK, so DK has been around a bit but I still don't think anyone gave her a chance.
Holmes: I am not surprised that she did well, given that she had an injury-free season (unlike her main rivals). This is not to say that that hers is not a big achievement.
El Guerrouj: obviously not surprised at all that he won the 1500. Quite surprised that he beat Kebele in the 5000. Speaking of which, I was a little disappointed with that race. Based on what happened in Paris last year, I thought there'd be real fireworks in this one. I didn't quite understand Kebele's strategy, as I thought he should have gone earlier. Unless the 10000 really took a lot out of him and he just couldn't do it.
Talking of disappointments, I thought Asafa Powell could have made the 100m race even better than it was. Not quite sure what happened in the final (Too nervous? Too much pressure?). Felt even more disappointed that he dropped out of the 200 final (unless he was injured, which I don't think he was). For 2 reasons: (1) you don't suddenly lose form in the space of a few days (he was flying in the early rounds of the 100). (2) he should have had a go anyway - he just deprived someone from being in the final, who would have given their all to win it.
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what a shame - Lima may not have won as he was slowing - but we will never know
Think the protester should be made to run a marathon in the same heat as Paula's run - with a cattle prod behind him to make sure he doesn't pull out to see how it feels!
Wonder if he gets a voucher for his category?
http://www.athens2004.com/en/AthleticsMen/results?rsc=ATM099101&frag=ATM099101_C73K
no point the drugs testers bothering there, unless Sanatogen is on the banned list
20th fastest at the Olympics, impressive stuff.
A lot of people talk of M Phelps. I didn't watch much of the swimming (not really my sport) so can't really approve of disapprove of that.
I haven't watched everything else either but I think I'll go for Deena KASTOR for coming 3rd in the womens marathon. I never heard of her before as nobody mentioned her beforehand as a possible medallist. Moreover, she achieved a season's best in THOSE conditions.
A bit like the feat that T Morris achieved at the FLM.
I think Kelly Holmes and Hicham El Gerrouj have been outstanding.
(wonder if we could get him to try and interrupt the rifle shooting next time ? Or yachting. I'm guessing he doesn't walk on water.)
Agree with honourable mentions for Wiggins, Holmes and Phelps. Baldini's performance should be given a heck of a lot of credit as well, in an era when Europeans win few top marathons of any description, never mind the Olympic marathon.
Bradley Wiggins also because he beat a top rider for his gold - and of course Holmes' double was fantastic - and when I saw that about 9 of the first 10 in the 1500 ran a pb (pretty sure it was a pb - maybe a sb if not) that shows what a win it was.
Deena Kastor for her brave run from the back of the marathon-however I rated her before this marathon as she finished 4th I think in FLM and I read an article on her about how hard she was training for this.
For Team GB, I thought Amir Khan the 17 year old finalist is worth mentioning. He had to fight the double Olympic champion and 3x world champion and actually didn't looked too bad!
Back to the marathon. Both races were very interesting to watch. There seems to be two camps of runners. There are the championship type runners, like Baldini, Jon Brown, Ndereba and Noguchi. On the other end there are the flat course fast runners like Tergat, Khannouchi, Radcliffe, though they all seem to struggle in big events.
I think you've confused them with the walkers.
Holmes: I am not surprised that she did well, given that she had an injury-free season (unlike her main rivals). This is not to say that that hers is not a big achievement.
El Guerrouj: obviously not surprised at all that he won the 1500. Quite surprised that he beat Kebele in the 5000. Speaking of which, I was a little disappointed with that race. Based on what happened in Paris last year, I thought there'd be real fireworks in this one. I didn't quite understand Kebele's strategy, as I thought he should have gone earlier. Unless the 10000 really took a lot out of him and he just couldn't do it.
Talking of disappointments, I thought Asafa Powell could have made the 100m race even better than it was. Not quite sure what happened in the final (Too nervous? Too much pressure?). Felt even more disappointed that he dropped out of the 200 final (unless he was injured, which I don't think he was). For 2 reasons: (1) you don't suddenly lose form in the space of a few days (he was flying in the early rounds of the 100). (2) he should have had a go anyway - he just deprived someone from being in the final, who would have given their all to win it.