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PUG- I find in predicting ur times, there has to be a halfway too fast time, and a sensibly paced time. So.....
Pugheaven
Pug = 2:04:10
Ode = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
Njord
Njord=2:04:59
Ode = 2:04:30
Pug = 2:04:10
Njord = 2:04:59
Ode = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
Ode: The 2:04:59 was my prediction for Pug! I'm there for a training run (honest).
Pugheaven
Pug = 2:04:10
Njord = 2:04:59
Ode = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
CM = 2.06 (Sensibly paced) 2.12 (not)
Ode: The 2:04:59 was my prediction for Pug! I'm there for a training run (honest).
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:04:10
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Pug
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Pug
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:04:10
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
JEJ think = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
JEJ think = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Altered for cross post.
Pug
Wanjiru set about his task with a will, shooting to the front of a field of around 15 men who hurtled through five kilometres in 13.27. That was slightly downhill, whereas the second 5k of the out-and-back course was slightly uphill. That was covered in 14.20, for an outrageous 10k ‘split’ of 27.47, which would do credit to a track runner.
Wanjiru was briefly headed at several stages, but never for more than 100 metres before he surged back into the lead. With similar gradients on the road back, the third and fourth 5k sections were run in 13.42 and 14.21. Kibiwott had dropped away by then, and the most serious threat to Wanjiru came when Merga took the lead with just two kilometres to run. But it was a ploy to try and slow the pace, which brought a rapid response from Makau and Wanjiru, the latter saying afterwards, “I thought I could win from about 15k, the others seemed to be tiring. I knew the Ethiopian was bluffing when he took the lead”.
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:04:10
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
CM = 2.06 (Sensibly paced) 2.12 (not)
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
JEJ think = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
Hope to be driving up from london and wanted to see if anyone needed a lift.
had to cut short my 22miler today to just a 15miler, as my knee started to give me grief. So irritating.
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
CM = 2.06 (Sensibly paced) 2.12 (not)
Ode Reckons = 2.07 (Sensibly paced) 2.13(not)
JEJ think = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
Pug
Pug
Si Jeffs Reckons = 2:03:40
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Crowie Reckons = 2:05:24 (hopes!!)
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Marshallini Reckons = 2:06:00
CM Reckons = 2.06:00 (Sensibly paced) 2.12:00 (not)
sprinting toffee Reckons = 2:06:34.21
Ode Reckons = 2.07:00(Sensibly paced)2.13:00(not)
JEJ Reckons = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
... and so the list grows...
Pug
But, my kneecap was very sore and stiff when running last night – Big Deal!!
Not sure if is a leftover from my pre-Christmas bike crash (my other knee is still a bit numb/swollen for m that) and is groaning because of the faster running, or if I’ve bumped it in some way.
I’m hopeful that I’ve bashed it and a bruise will appear and that will be it. Can it something more sinister – can you have other knee-cap injuries – most bizarre?
Iced it after running and taken Ibuprofen. Not sure wether to FIDO it, or rest it. If it’s bruised it must be better to keep it moving. (FIDO = f*ck it drive on!).
I can’t succumb to injury now! I’m far too slow a runner to sit next to CRAB and RB on the bench.
n2 reckons 2:25:00
i have my pipe ready!
CRAB Reckons :-
2:06:30 - paced correctly lol
2:11:30 - paced incorrectly rofl
or possibly do a GR (I know it was only once but I was there so forgive me for using it as ammo) when he's not on for sub2 hours after the first 5 miles and consequently a perfectly executed spit of the dummy!!
£5 says Marhallini we'll decide he CNBA with all this prediction nonesense by the end of the day and withdraw from the sweep.
Si Jeffs Reckons = 2:03:40
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Crowie Reckons = 2:05:24 (hopes!!)
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Marshallini Reckons = 2:06:00
CM Reckons = 2.06:00 (Sensibly paced) 2.12:00 (not)
sprinting toffee Reckons = 2:06:34.21
Ode Reckons = 2.07:00(Sensibly paced)2.13:00(not)
JEJ Reckons = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
JH1 Reckons = 2:07:09
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
I like the fact that everyone thinks he will crash and burn – he will have to drag his sorry arse home though – he can’t risk posting another DNF.
So if Pug has to crawl home after “blowing his beans too early” then I predict 2:12:30.
Good Fun this.
Can’t wait til folks start predicting FLM times.
Got to get my kneecap loosened up by then or I’ll be dragging round at the back with CRAB.
Crab- And there was me thinking that you had probably forgotten all about my Yateley horror show;o))
Some great racing over the w/e
Jej- awesome 10k,and it looks like there's more to come
AY4- A great 20 miler and off the back of some heavy mileage
OO- A sub 1.20 half eh...that's a great effort.Surely you must be declaring a sub 2.50 flm!
Had a real crap wet and windy 12 miler this morning including 5x 1k's off 2min jog recoveries really struggled for 3.30's almost binned the session after the second effort but managed to complete all 5.
Anyone else doing the Fleet half on Sunday?
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Si Jeffs Reckons = 2:03:40
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Crowie Reckons = 2:05:24 (hopes!!)
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Marshallini Reckons = 2:06:00
CM Reckons = 2.06:00 (Sensibly paced) 2.12:00 (not)
sprinting toffee Reckons = 2:06:34.21
Ode Reckons = 2.07:00(Sensibly paced)2.13:00(not)
JEJ Reckons = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
JH1 Reckons = 2:07:09
G.R Reckons = 2:05:15 (due a good one)
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
G.R Reckons = 2:15:10
Si Jeffs Reckons = 2:03:40
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Crowie Reckons = 2:05:24 (hopes!!)
TR Reckons = 2:05:29 (Sensibly paced) 2:12:30 (not)
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Marshallini Reckons = 2:06:00
CM Reckons = 2.06:00 (Sensibly paced) 2.12:00 (not)
CRAB Reckons = 2:06:30 (Sensibly paced) 2:11:30 (not)
sprinting toffee Reckons = 2:06:34.21
Ode Reckons = 2.07:00(Sensibly paced)2.13:00(not)
JEJ Reckons = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
JH1 Reckons = 2:07:09
G.R Reckons = 2:05:15 (due a good one)
nichs2 Reckons = 2:25
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
G.R Reckons = 2:15:10
Think tomorrow night, might pop out for a 4 miler maybe... rest Thursday, 4-5 miler Friday, travel upto trimpel Saturday, little 2 mile jog Saturday night and 12 hours kip :-)
Who else is racing this weekend? I like these predictors... anyone else racing so we can get another going?
TR So, now you've had loads of time to get over Bramley, what are your feeling now? 6:50's possible? 7:00's all around London? What's your feeling now as in what shape you feel you're in?
Pug
At the risk of pissing off other folks by hogging the record player, this is my current thinking:-
I reckon I ran too easily at Bramley as I felt fine the next day, and was knocking out some ace intervals by Thursday, but I ran at what felt a comfortable pace at Bramley. I also did some MP stuff last Saturday (or intended MP – too windy to keep to MP – but I pushed bloody hard anyway). Did another 20 on Sunday which felt fine – the 20’s are no probs now, I was knackered all day after my first 2 hr run at Christmas.
I’ve lots of MP stuff and intervals to do, which should up my leg speed. I reckon I could run the whole way at 7 min miles. The trick will be in getting the leg speed up so 6m50’s feel comfortable.
Ode, wants me to run with him, he should be nearer 2h 55 or better going on his 10 mile time. But, Rome may slow him to my pace.
If I go sub3 it will be a 2h 59 job – still who cares. So, I can’t afford to run too fast for the first half, but it will be a tall order to run 6m50’s without slowing down.
But I will have done about 9 20’s by then – so hopefully I will be strong in the later miles.
I was hoping to do a ½ Mar in 1h23 ish as a sign of readiness, but all that would prove is that I can do a ½ in 1h 23 ish. Not that I can go sub3. (I’m beginning to learn CRAB).
I’m definitely not as tired all the time as I was, and my legs felt good during the intervals – they were supposed to be at 10k pace – but I’ve never run a 10k at that pace.
I’m happy to stick with the MG plan, bang out the MP stuff over the next few weeks, keep the long runs going and take my chances on the day – if I have a good run then it’s a possibility.
I won’t fail due to a lack of preparation, still havn’t pulled a CNBA, but if I had started 2 months earlier I reckon I would do it, I was too knackered during Jan/Feb to be able tto put in anything other than easy/steady stuff. Also it was only about 5 weeks ago that I struggled round that 10k in 40 mins – I’ve come a long way since then.
If I fail then expect to see me on this thread until Abingdon, I can’t waste all the good work that I’ve put in.
Once I’ve done a sub3 then I can return to my old regime, and give you folks some peace.
Thanks for the interest.
I reckon you can run a decent time on Sunday, but you need to hold back the wild horses for the first few miles.
However if my knee-cap is really f*cked, then I probably won't even run, I'll defer my entry.
I'll never get in through the ballot again - so can't waste this chance.
However, I can't see that it can be anything other than having knocked it, theres only bone on the knee-cap, so I can't have damaged any tendons etc
So FIDO it is - but it may all end up in tears - and a bit of a limp.
Pugheaven Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Si Jeffs Reckons = 2:03:40
Njord Reckons = 2:04:59
Crowie Reckons = 2:05:24 (hopes!!)
TR Reckons = 2:05:29 (Sensibly paced) 2:12:30 (not)
Pug Reckons = 2:05:30
Marshallini Reckons = 2:06:00
CM Reckons = 2.06:00 (Sensibly paced) 2.12:00 (not)
CRAB Reckons = 2:06:30 (Sensibly paced) 2:11:30 (not)
sprinting toffee Reckons = 2:06:34.21
Ode Reckons = 2.07:00(Sensibly paced)2.13:00(not)
JEJ Reckons = 2:08:01 (10M split 62:28)
JH1 Reckons = 2:07:09
G.R Reckons = 2:05:15 (due a good one)
nichs2 Reckons = 2:25
OuchOuch 2:07:00
Njord Predicted Trimpell 20 Mile Time
Pug Reckons = 2:16:10
Njord Reckons = 2:22:22 (5 min neg split)
G.R Reckons = 2:15:10
OuchOuch 2:17:00
Thanks for all of the well dones on my sub-80, its good to know, someone appreciates our respective efforts. Lots of recovery runs for the early part of the week and a quicker effort planned for Friday then another hm on Sunday.
TR - You've given yourself an excellent chance of a sub3 but key part of all training plans is rest. Any chance of a days rest? You'll come back fresher and faster for it.
GR - O go on then...Sub 250 it is then.
Restdays?.....what are they then?
Not too many of them in my P&D schedule!
Took an easy week before Bramley, as I had ignored the previous one - I did feel loads better for doing it.
P&D - Pearl and Dean ? Do you carry popcorn and a large coke with you ?
*curtains shut*
Pearl and Dean reckon a 22 mile training run should take about the same time as your expected marathon time.
Ergo, a 20 mile training run should be projected marathon time minus 13 or 14 minutes.
Does anyone here actually run that slow in training?
I used to (and believed in it too), but this thread is beginning to corrupt me......