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TR - at least you've mitigated my disappointment at not being able to do London this year a little but I'm sorry to hear you're still not right. Forecast for Boston is great for today - double the wind speed tomorrow, typical, though to be fair it doesn't look too bad it's just that it's so exposed and looking at previous results there may not be many running the pace I hope to be. Woke you this morning feeling rubbish - sinus headache and sore throat - but hoping it's just the taper talking and because I took rest day yesterday (just couldn't face dragging myself out in the cold and wet again for a few miles that weren't going to make any difference at this stage.
Unlucky TR.
All ready here. Bed at 10 pm and woke at LMH o clock but nodded off for a few more hours. Feel rested and lurgy 95% gone. Just did doubles early in the week and a few 3m Thursday / Friday. It's going to be wet and windy which are conditions I quite like though will add a few minutes to the finishing time. Seems the wind will help when running clockwise and hinder when anti. 500 runners involved with a pre-predicted win time of 2.40 so hopefully will be running for a minor place and aiming for 2.50-2.52. Swapped the offer of my brothers sofa (he's doing the half) for a quieter hotel. So UDS&LMH let's have this.
WOW and also Boston this weekend too. Good luck LMH!!! You sound in fine fettle. Are you doing all the Marathon Majors?
Thanks all for "well done's" re Manchester, means a lot coming from all of yous.
Wardi - your club mate ran well at Manchester then. I obviously never saw him. All my PBs were painful. This time I ran controlled so only last couple of miles became a problem.
TR - as other have said already, gutted for you mate. Your recap of a couple of your sessions including double doubles was so impressive and you seemed to be handling them with ease. Maybe see you at Abo? Although if memory serves you often enter but don't run??
Great pic of the thread legends! The only time I have run London I remember being too nervous to go say hello. I think Charlie recognized me and said "hi" but I'm still in awe. Maybe next year I'll pluck up the courage
Haven't run since last Sunday, legs felt fine by Tuesday but right foot has been tender to the touch on outside edge and causing discomfort whilst walking so have stuck to walking mainly.
Other than that in decent shape and glad I paced my race the way I did. Got a good result, which has rekindled the fire and as alluded to by ES i have been googling autumn races - Abo looking best option atm. Got to work on shifting some excess baggage.. as the late, great Mark E Smith proclaimed... Don't eat chocolate, eat salad instead.... Wise words MES RIP!
So looking forwards to all the reports over the next week or so.
Cheer SJ - hopefully the foot injury will pass soon.
So you gave in and ran then OuchOuch? I couldn't have carded a zero for the last couple of days. Your forecast sounds worse than mine First MV50 rather than first M now the aim?
SJ - is your hip flexor tight? That would cause you to run more on the outside of your foot and might explain the tenderness.
Al_P, I saw your (and Ryan's) Salisbury results on Strava - fantastic runs from both of you.
TT, sorry to hear about Paris.
OO, LMH and UDS, best of luck this weekend! LMH - I did not twig you were doing the "UK" Boston!
Selbs - great to see you pop in, hope to see you down the pub!
That picture reminds me that I am going to struggle to recognize any of you in the pub on Sunday! I will have to bring a crib sheet of race numbers with me!
Like Al_P, I planned to do a parkrun this morning as a final blast. After reading Dan's comments, I almost didn't go, but decided to chance it in the end. It was my first time doing this particular parkrun, so dutifully listened to the newbie pre-race briefing. After explaining the route, he asked if anyone was aiming for sub-19 or faster so I said "yes", and he replied "hmm, you might be leading the first lap so good luck!" Fortunately there was a dog-runner who shot off into the lead and a couple of others of a similar pace to me, so I was OK, until the point where we realized the dog-runner was also a first-timer! He almost took a wrong turn after a mile, but one of the regulars shouted out and he swerved back, unfortunately crossing the dog into the path of the guy in 2nd. No harm done luckily. I was in 3rd at that point, running about the same pace as last week but it all felt a lot harder and it was only about halfway round that I remembered I'd done 3x1M intervals on Thursday which was actually supposed to be instead of the parkrun - oops! I did get out to the front at about the 2k point after the dog got tired and I passed one other guy, but the legs weren't having it and I faded between 3 and 4km, finding myself in 4th as we passed the 4K marker. The leaders were all still in sight though. Then the first two opened a gap with about 500m to go, as they duked it out amongst themselves and I put on a late surge to grab 3rd place back, and managed to hang on to it. So my 100% parkrun win record is gone, but I still have a 100% parkrun podium record: 2 for 2!
So anyway, that's my race report skills sharpened up for a week Sunday!!! Looks like it might be warm, but to be honest, I'll take 18C over the 27C I had in Boston last year. I will post race number later - is anyone else actually on FGFA start these days?!?
TR- really sorry to hear you are going to DNS. I hope you are back running soon and can bag some summer races.
Seems like Selbs isn't going to slum it with us on the FGFA, but fear not ES there will be a few of us.
Likewise OO - fine position, and pretty close to the time you were after on what must have been a lonely run at times. Enjoy the recovery.
Anyone watch the Commonwealth Games marathon? Lots of anger about medical cover (or lack of), but either way it was a fascinating watch which underlines just how brutal the marathon can be, regardless of your fitness or ability.
Cut and pasted from the DTT:
Short version - it became obvious in the third mile that today wasn't going to be my day, I was on pace but it was feeling far too much like hard work. Things went from bad to worse when I started having GI issues again - but this time from about mile 8. I had to give in and dive into a portaloo at 11.5 miles which helped though obviously cost me a bit of time and a couple of places, though I think I caught the guys who had gone past later on. I knew that a PB wasn't happening either but determined that I'd go for goal C though for a while I wasn't convinced that I was going to make it however I managed to negative split (I think) and come in at 2.56.49, my second fastest marathon so I should be ok with it really though I'm not especially happy. Good enough for second on the day but would never have challenged for the win even if on PB form as convincingly beaten by a not much younger but consistently faster lady who runs for Rotherham.
Result was 2.51.13 4th place 1st with grey hair. Makes it my 8th consecutive sub 3 in just over 12 months. Cool wet but really windy which helped a bit when tail but really hurt when headwind and as it picked up in the race found myself notching up far too many 7.20-7.40 miles. With the leaders till mile 4, then 3rd till mile 15. Gave it 99% today so happy I dug in.
LMH/ UDS how did it go.
OO.. did all the finishers get a bag of whelks or similar??
Congrats on the Park Run podium ES. Hope to see you in London
Park Run blast for me yesterday too, a few seconds faster than last week rounded up to nearly 6m with w/u & c/d.
Vale of York 10m race today, close to where I live so I was familiar with the slightly undulating course. I kept the handbrake on around 7.50 pace & ended up pacing a couple of girls from 5m who were chasing sub 80 and had noted my metronomic miles. Home in 78.33 without any strain and the legs feel fine, really enjoyed it and it has given me a bit of added confidence for VLM. The fast girls were out in force, top 3 were all sub 60. Nice to bump into Race Jase who is coming back after a stress fracture injury and currently claims to be fat and slow.
It sounds as though the smoking jacket came out today Wardi:-) I was pleased to be able to help a guy to his sub 3 GFA today with a little late race pacing and encouragement, it's nice when you can do that.
Wardi - alas not as it is the area for them. A decent tech t-shirt, a tube of flexiseq (miraculous stuff £16 in Tesco/ Boots) and few other bits and bobs. Good pacing and sounds a good run-out.
No more road marathons now till Berlin just the small matter of the Marathon du Mont Blanc in July and note Dan is doing the nutters nutter version. So Cornish coastal path here I come.
OO - fantastic run - congratulations. 8 sub-3's in a year is an amazing achievement. Nice to see you're not letting up either, with both summer and autumn marathons planned!
Last double-digit run for me today - 13M. I turned on the gas a bit in the second half and averaged 6:49 for the last 6M. Pleased with that. See below for VMLM details & tergats.
TR -
DanA -
CW - #1348 Cambridge & Coleridge (white with blue stripes), blue start, A: <2:39 B: <2:40 <C: 2:45
Joe -
Jooligan -
Al_P - #1431 New Forest Runners (white with green side stripes), green (short) shorts. Targets: A-2:28:xx B- A PB 2:29:2x C-Sub2:30
Padams - #1580, St Albans Striders blue/yellow), blue start, A:<2:30, B:<2:33, C:<2:37
BEJ - #1425, Wirral AC (white with horizontal green stripes) A:<2:30, B:<2:31.16, C:<2:34.18 adjusted to A: <2:35 (or top 75), B: 2:38 (or top 100), C:<DNF
SK -
CD - #1202 Tadworth (green with white central band), blue start. A: 2:40-2:45, B: DBS.
ES - #31568 Unattached (red vest), red FGFA start. A: 2:54, B: 2:57, C: 2:59
LukeStur - #23643 Lifeguard! (yellow top, red shorts, red lifebouy!), green start. A: 2:44:59, B: 2:45-2:49, C: < 2:55:53 (Guinness World Record)
So question: am I allowed to stay on the Sub3 forum? Perhaps we can rename it the sub3 and a few seconds! :-)
And Strava never lies right. My marathon on there today was 2:59.30 as the distance was 26.3. (pace 6.50) mainly because you always take wider turns and on this course they all add up over that distance. Don't worry I'm not clutching at straws. And anyway plastic straws are banned everywhere now anyway.
As far as Brighton Marathon goes. It's a great event and I would recommend it. Good atmosphere and course kept the mind engaged. It wasn't without its tiny flaws but they can all be overlooked due to the Pint of ice cold non alcoholic beer given at the finish after the medal. That was a real treat!!!
So next up is Warsaw (30 Sept). So plenty of time to recover and start phase 2 training. I won't change too much to be honest but will get in more Long runs. Will keep the quality as I have been doing but still intend to limit my runs to 4 a week. That could possibly peak to 5 with more long slow stuff in the summer as its so much nicer then!! Which makes everything easier.
So in summary I haven't done any consistent running for 3 years before I stated training in November. I averaged 35 miles per week in the end and ran MK Parkrun PB (18.18), 10KM in 37.30, half in 1.26.00 and converted all that into a smidgen over 3. So have I convinced anyone on this forum that low volume can work!??! Haha no I thought not you guys won't change your ways but there is room for diversity in training and mega high volume is not the only way.
Thanks all.
TR -
DanA -
CW - #1348 Cambridge & Coleridge (white with blue stripes), blue start, A: <2:39 B: <2:40 <C: 2:45
Joe -
Jooligan - #26012 Blue/White MIND vest, Green Start, A: 2:59, B: 3:01:xx, C: 3:02:18 (PB)
Al_P - #1431 New Forest Runners (white with green side stripes), green (short) shorts. Targets: A-2:28:xx B- A PB 2:29:2x C-Sub2:30
Padams - #1580, St Albans Striders blue/yellow), blue start, A:<2:30, B:<2:33, C:<2:37
BEJ - #1425, Wirral AC (white with horizontal green stripes) A:<2:30, B:<2:31.16, C:<2:34.18 adjusted to A: <2:35 (or top 75), B: 2:38 (or top 100), C:<DNF
SK -
CD - #1202 Tadworth (green with white central band), blue start. A: 2:40-2:45, B: DBS.
ES - #31568 Unattached (red vest), red FGFA start. A: 2:54, B: 2:57, C: 2:59
LukeStur - #23643 Lifeguard! (yellow top, red shorts, red lifebouy!), green start. A: 2:44:59, B: 2:45-2:49, C: < 2:55:53 (Guinness World Record)
Well done on the Brighton result UDS.
I also ran Brighton today. I also started running in November 2017 after a break and ran a PR in 19:51 and a HM in 86.54. However, my focus was the marathon, so I trained 7 days per week, peaking at 80 miles per week. Result - 2:59:32. If you want to break 3 hours, you should probably try increasing the mileage!
Sorry you didn't make the sub 3 UDS.
Can't help but be a bit disappointed with it though ES - if we didn't always want better I guess we wouldn't get ourselves out of the door to do the training. Hopefully my autumn campaign will be a bit less compromised.
Of course I would agree with comments that an increase in mileage will increase my endurance and sub3 chances. But I don't think that means 80 miles for me personally. Everyone is different. My spring marathon training was just phase 1 and I always intended to ramp it up slightly from here. But my focus is always to take the minimal approach and injury prevention.
I can now get excited about London next Sunday and supporting all you guys!! Good luck to everyone running.