The mentality is chronic self self deprecation, unless someone outside attacks them where they then then tell us what a sense of humour they have and had a great football team in the 1970s.
Quite right Rickster. I lived in a council house when I was younger and I'm not a chav.
Can someone point me to any post on the internet where people freely admit to being a chav?
Denying you are a chav does not make it so.
You seem to have misunderstood the reason for mine and Rickster's comments which is that The Egyptian Toe was equating being a "chav" with growing up in a council house. It has nothing to do with that at all.
And my denying that I'm a "chav" does make it so, I can assure you. I can give you a hundred reasons why but I don't need to - because you already know I'm not and are just trolling.
BTW Danny Dyer once asserted he was a "chav" and proud of it.
Quite right Rickster. I lived in a council house when I was younger and I'm not a chav.
Can someone point me to any post on the internet where people freely admit to being a chav?
Denying you are a chav does not make it so.
You seem to have misunderstood the reason for mine and Rickster's comments which is that The Egyptian Toe was equating being a "chav" with growing up in a council house. It has nothing to do with that at all.
Fair enough. I take the meaning as Ch standing for council house. I find the term offensive so I discourage people from using it. Maybe you could make it clear when you call someone a Chav you might make it clear that you are not being disrespectful to social housing; or maybe this is a keyboard warrior bitch behind back type of thing.
Scham 69, Hersham Boys... Chavs? I thunk thay mite be telling us they wuz Chavs... had hey had a time machine.
All this rubbish about class, is rubbish. The working class, who may or may not live in Council houses, may or may not speak estuary English had and still do have pride. It is only the legacy of Magaret Thatcher that creates these attitudes and divides society and alows bankers, such as the bird in charge of Santander UK to earn 4.4 million a year. the sort of socilly diversiveness and inequality did not exist in the days of "The Social Contract" pre Thatcher. You youngsters do not realise how evil she was and the true extent of her horrific legacy. Those of you of my age who do not see it are eitrher stupid or corrupt. How many of you proud "Sun Readers" who voted for her in 79 are proud enough to admit it now, and how many of you are prepared to accept the legacy.
Everyone over estimates there presence at Sex Pistols concerts and underestimates the number of times they voted for Maggie!
Do not abuse the working class as chavs. Abuse the tax evaders, abuse the bankers, abuse the arms sellers, abuse the drug dealers, abuse the corrupt politicains, abuse the benfit fraudsters. Call them what you will, but get organised and stop them doing it. In this age when you all want to be middle class, it does not give you the right to abuse those that know themselves to be working class. Take pride in your working class routes, don't let the basterds divide and rule. Do you think that bank and building society managers and the 30 peopl in barclays who earn over 1 000 000 pounds a year give a damn about you, anything you thonk, anything you say. The only way you can stop them is to make the people you elect start doing whta you want them to...
As a society we like to label people so it is easier to isolate them and ignore what they are saying.
This is not OK.
It is huiman nature yto do this, big business and small government uses this to label and discredit those who challenge them.
In 60s Soviet Union, those that challenged the regime were mentally ill.
What happens to those that challenge the establishment in the UK in 2013?
Read Julie Bailey's book From Ward to Whitehall ISBN 978 0 9573826 0 2 about the Mid Staffs NHS trust who were responsible for Stafford Hospital, where hundreds of peolpe died unnecessarily each year for a number of years, despite the hospital recieving a barage of complaints.
For real, when I started, i used to go down stairs and tell um what letter I wanted or if it was more complex i'd dictate to someone whio could take shorthand. Now I type them out and e mail to someone else to top and tail... I have less time...
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The Liverpool accent evolved from a largely Irish population being afflicted with adenoid problems.
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CH = Council House. QED.
If you'd read the thread you'll see the CH doesn't necessarily stand for council house. There are different interpretations of the origin of the word.
Anyway - what part of it being about attitude don't you get? And where were you brought up that makes you so superior? Buckingham Palace?
Possibly....
Scham 69, Hersham Boys... Chavs? I thunk thay mite be telling us they wuz Chavs... had hey had a time machine.
All this rubbish about class, is rubbish. The working class, who may or may not live in Council houses, may or may not speak estuary English had and still do have pride. It is only the legacy of Magaret Thatcher that creates these attitudes and divides society and alows bankers, such as the bird in charge of Santander UK to earn 4.4 million a year. the sort of socilly diversiveness and inequality did not exist in the days of "The Social Contract" pre Thatcher. You youngsters do not realise how evil she was and the true extent of her horrific legacy. Those of you of my age who do not see it are eitrher stupid or corrupt. How many of you proud "Sun Readers" who voted for her in 79 are proud enough to admit it now, and how many of you are prepared to accept the legacy.
Everyone over estimates there presence at Sex Pistols concerts and underestimates the number of times they voted for Maggie!
PS scallys are not Chavs.
Scallys engage in crimnal activity, Chavs may be benigh. Towie suggests they may beven be loveable.
Hugo is a barbarian.
Do not abuse the working class as chavs. Abuse the tax evaders, abuse the bankers, abuse the arms sellers, abuse the drug dealers, abuse the corrupt politicains, abuse the benfit fraudsters. Call them what you will, but get organised and stop them doing it. In this age when you all want to be middle class, it does not give you the right to abuse those that know themselves to be working class. Take pride in your working class routes, don't let the basterds divide and rule. Do you think that bank and building society managers and the 30 peopl in barclays who earn over 1 000 000 pounds a year give a damn about you, anything you thonk, anything you say. The only way you can stop them is to make the people you elect start doing whta you want them to...
This one is for you Martin Codd.
"Batter the rich"
There's no way Martin will pop up here.
If so I'll have to start listening to Gardeners Question Time just in case Ian Bone has developd an interest in bigoneas!
Club mouse.
As a society we like to label people so it is easier to isolate them and ignore what they are saying.
This is not OK.
It is huiman nature yto do this, big business and small government uses this to label and discredit those who challenge them.
In 60s Soviet Union, those that challenged the regime were mentally ill.
What happens to those that challenge the establishment in the UK in 2013?
Read Julie Bailey's book From Ward to Whitehall ISBN 978 0 9573826 0 2 about the Mid Staffs NHS trust who were responsible for Stafford Hospital, where hundreds of peolpe died unnecessarily each year for a number of years, despite the hospital recieving a barage of complaints.
Poor school ?
Why participate in a forum, if you can't engage?
Like yourselves, I grew uo in the age when the secretary wrote the letters.
For real, when I started, i used to go down stairs and tell um what letter I wanted or if it was more complex i'd dictate to someone whio could take shorthand. Now I type them out and e mail to someone else to top and tail... I have less time...
I may be drunk madam, but you are ugly, and in the morning I shall be sober. Groucho.
Perhaps he went to the cinema.
Must be your advancing years ?
If Canute gets stopped by the police whilst driving home from the pub he should say "I haven't had a cunt all day drinkstable." BURP!!!