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    Morning,keep posting Sinbad,your not deep at all,stopping drinking can be mentally and physically challenging,so take it easy with your running too.

    I am not anti-pubs,i spent a lot of time in them in the past,but you should perhaps consider giving it a break while you try to stop,running and your boat seems a good option. You know what you have to do to give AA a try,the first step is sometimes the hardest.

    Well done Dongato,have a nice weekend.

    At the Golf yesterday, pity the weather was dull,drizzly and misty,but enjoyable nevertheless. A wedding tonight which is always more challenging for me,not because i will feel tempted,more of trying to enjoy myself and to look like i am enjoying myself for my wifes sake. I do get bored as the evening wears on. Only for an evening though.

    Have a good weekend everyone.

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    Morning all.

    Sinbad- don't apologise for getting things out in open and glad it made you feel better. I agree it's best not to do the half. It will add a lot of pressure and finishing a race at the back on the pavements is not a lot of fun. Just run for now sounds good

    I had a good session at masters and learned a lot. no drink for 2 nights now after having a week back to old habits of sharing a full bottle. There definitely is a tipping point when my resolve goes and it seems to be after 2 glasses of wine so back to the small individual bottles now.

    Hope everyone has a good weekend. I'm off to an open water Swim show and might brave a dip in the lake which will likely be cold - brrrrrrr!
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    CindersCinders ✭✭✭

    Brrrr, SD, could be cold.  Enjoy the show.

    Hope the wedding is ok later BWF.

    Sinbad, why not try a Parkrun or a 10k first?

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    Swim was fab! image I bought a neoprene hat and Swim socks and treated myself to a lovely warm wrap for getting out. Not too cold at all once I relaxed into it.
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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

     

    Ta BWF 

    Cinder's, I would love to be a regular PR. But I'm too scared to go, even socialise in the real world any more, after Tuesday. I know there all friendly, I just don't know how to protect myself. 

    I just want to fit in.

    I think I been trying semi seriously to stop now for about 2 years, I have decided after holiday, to give it one last try to stop.

    A 10k is within my reach Cinder's.

    Good going Soup Dragon.

    Good luck at the wedding BWF.

    No run today, I just feel so mentally drained at the minute.

    I'm going to see if there's an AA in Scarborough perhaps try and go to that one, depending on tide times, I don't have a tender. I'm at boat for up to 2 weeks from Tuesday.

    Just so fed up with rubbish in pubs, and I won't drink at home. All being well, I won't be out till Tuesday, perhaps longer being on boat.

    I will try get out for a run Sunday.

    I hope all okay.

     

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    SunluvvaSunluvva ✭✭✭

    Parkrun is an excellent idea Sinbad - you don't have to socialise with anyone if you don't want to.  Just go to the website, register and print off your personal barcode then turn up at any parkrun you fancy.  If you want to chat and people seem friendly then chat - and if you don't want to chat then just loiter and don't chat.  Lots of people just stand around waiting for the start without talking to anyone.  

    Open water swimming Soupy - you're brrrrrraver than me image  I love swimming but have never braved a lake or river yet.

    Hope you enjoyed the wedding BWF, I know what you mean about getting bored as the evening wears on - it's usually just about the time everyone is really sozzled and suddenly thinks they're really entertaining and funny....

    I was tempted to do a local off road 10k this morning but in my heart I know I need complete rest or I'll go back downhill again.  I've felt like I've been teetering on the edge of proper clinical fatigue all this week again so it would be beyond stupid to do a 10k the second I feel I've got a tiny bit of energy back.  

    My friend has spent the past two days running in the Ultra Trail- Mount Fuji in Japan.  I've been watching the live camera feed and following his progress on the tracking system.  He didn't make it to the end as he was timed at at Check Point 9 but he still did almost 80 miles with some brutal ascents - the last one was a 2000 metre climb image.  Following it for 2 days has given me such itchy feet but I must be sensible......................image

    Hope everyone has a lovely Sunday - I was about to take the dogs for a walk in the woods and find the rope swing someone told me has been put up there but i't just about to pour down with rain again so I might leave it a bit.

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    I done a couple of volunteer at PR, and I'm registered, its just after last week, I have lost all confidence. I have not run this week at all. I wanted to get out today, but I have  felt so drained today.

    Hope you did okay at the wedding BWF.

    Good going on the open swimming, sounds ace.

    Wow SL, your friend did amazingly well.

    I'm off to my boat Tuesday for up to 2 weeks, but may come back early, depending how cold it gets towards the end of this week. Forecast is for a cold snap. 

    If I manage to get out most days for a run, I will re-register again with PR and do my best to get to a couple even if time will be about 47 minutes.

    The Spanish guy Gomez beat one of the Brownlee brothers, the other didn't run because of a calf muscle. Three times I believe Gomez has won I think?

    Now for snooker.

    I know how to stand up for myself in company, but I do not know when to shut up once the point has been made. To the other extreme, I do not know how to cope with nasty people who don't like what I say.

    Its been overcast but warm here. Hope you manage to get the dogs out for their walk SL.

    A forum website similar to this, but with a chat room, I have posted about 28 times there, I've been accepted into the chat room now. So hopefully, instead of just running to the pub, I can go in there and here after a run of course. Its just not the same as real life people, no offence, I think the world of you all. 

    But real life people scare the hell out of me.

    Hope all okay.

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    I give up. I tried to contact PR no luck. It asks you not to reregister if no longer using same details, but you need you PR ID to register.

    I just give up.

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    Don't give up Sinbad - there is a way of getting your number, I had to do it and I'm sure someone will be along soon who can help. I can't remember. Don't be so hard on yourself. Social interactions can often be difficult. Have you tried counselling or CBT?

    SL - you just have to try open water swimming - it's so much more fun than doing lengths,

    I went out to eat last night and ordered wine by the glass instead of a bottle and that worked well. Been for a bike ride today and off out a club soon to see The Move! It has a bar which might be a challenge.

    Hope everyone else is okay
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    Night all. Fraid I've had 2 pints of beer and just put a tot of whiskey in my hot chocolate. There something about live music that says beer and the gig was surprisingly brilliant. Still buzzing so not sorry I weakened and will have a few nights off in the week. Take care everyone.
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    trigger2trigger2 ✭✭✭
    I have a race next Saturday so will not be indulging this week until after then! That's my pledge people!



    I think you need to be kinder to yourself Sinbad. People aren't always nice and it's not always your fault.



    Golf widow since Saturday until next Sunday - woohoo!
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    Morning all,

    Enjoy your race Trigger,good luck !

    With Sinbad posting about the parkruns,i must make an effort to do one,wont be for a few weeks as i am working for 19 days in a row just now.

    Wedding went fine,lasted till about 11.30.

    not a lot really Soup, as long as you keep trying.

    Have a nice Monday,dull and damp here,back to normal!!

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    trigger2trigger2 ✭✭✭
    Highly recommend parkrun BWF - I've completed 125 of them now! Took me 3 years to complete the 100 and earn my tshirt and jacket! Just hoping it doesn't take me quite as long to reach the 250.



    Not too nice hear this morning either but since I'm deskbound I don't really mind.



    Thanks for the best wishes for the race BWF I've been training hard for this one - about 5 weeks of long runs of 5 miles on a Sunday over a hilly terrain. The race itself is pancake flat so I'm hoping to get close to my pb of 57.04. But that was set two years ago so who knows!
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    I watch  The Biggest Loser as inspiration and I like the way the personal trainers adopt a tough love approach to get the contestants into shape. Give up the booze, give up the junk food, give up the XBox/Playstation. Make good positive life style choices. Work hard towards your goals and no more excuses!

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    Hello.

    Thats a lot of parkruns Trigger,well done. Will let you know how i get on when i get round to running one. Hopefully Saturday week. I have timed myself with the Garmin,the best i have done is around 28.5 minutes,but not really racing as such.

    Road Warrior, If willpower could have made me sober,i would have acheived that more than 20 years ago. If you are an alcoholic it is totally irrelavant. I suggest you have a look at Alcoholics Anonymous,s 12 step program,it was the only way i remain sober a day at a time,shortly be my 1000 of such days,sober,happy and very,very,grateful.cheers.

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    Morning,well this thread has went quiet,hope everyone is well,fit and still trying to give up or regulate your booze.

    looking for advice,i have signed up for a half marathon in September in warwickshire when i am visiting friends,but i have a local one up here that i could do approx 4 weeks before. Do you think i should enter and possibly use it as a long run or should i just wait. Appreciate they are quite a long way off.

    Have a nice Thursdayimage

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    trigger2trigger2 ✭✭✭
    Hi BWF I'm still lurking! Pretty busy at work at the mo so not too much time to post. Happily regulating my intake!



    Congratulations on signing up for the half marathon - I'd be careful of overdoing it if I were you. I ran Great North followed by Royal Parks HM and suffered with knee problems for quite a while afterwards. There again everyone is different and you know your own body so if you feel you can and you want to - do!



    A rather wet Thursday here - had to pack my waterproof for the run home image
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    CindersCinders ✭✭✭

    Which half have you signed up for BWF?  Like trigger says, best not to overdo it.

    I'm still here, semi lurking. Still got ear problems and can't hear.  Will be back to the Dr for a 3rd time next week image  

    Hi trigger, is a bit wet today isn't it?

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    Hello again,thanks trigger & cinders,will think carefully about doing two.

    I have signed up for the Kenilworth Half at the start of September, wives brother lives there.cheers.

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    Morning all, Out for run this morning ,but had hip pain near the end of it (4.5 miles)

    Feel like a silly old fool,i received a gift of a fitness dvd last week from a well intentioned friend and i strained about every muscle in my legs doing it. It was a high intenstity one (focus T25) and i thought i was doing it rather slowly,but must have done something wrong. Will have to see what damage i have done,away for a stretch now.have a good sunday,cheers.

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    Hi all,

    Nice to see some familiar names around these parts and apologies for not tipping my hat here every now 'n' then.  I go through phases with the internet!

    Still running, though I went through a tough patch after the Gower marathon where I was just sick of it and struggled to get out to do two-or-three runs a week.  I think Winter does that to me.  Currently back running and on day 8 of the Insanity 60 day program thing.  It's quite tough, despite my scepticism of keep fit DVDs.

    Sad to see not much has changed with Sinbad on the drinking front!  You know what they say, if nothing changes, nothing changes.

    Coming upto five years sober next month; still very active with A.A. (I have a lot to be grateful to A.A. for), and things are okay my end, inspite of living with a Welsh woman.

    Hope everyone else is well.

     

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    I'm still lurking. But I have done no running though, and I miss it. Never thought I would.

    On the booze side, I managed 12 days, and slipped up by going out yesterday

    I hear you all, I just get so fed up.

    I know this is silly, but I have set my target for trying to stop again for after the holiday.

    Its when the weather is bad, I slip and slide, in other words winter. I must be getting old, it never used to bother me ow er.

    I not done 12 days with no beer for years, so I guess that's an improvement.

    I will try and look for the PR bar code some time this week. But I won't try again now till at least a couple of weeks after the holiday, to try and get back into training, as quickly and smoothly as possible.

    I've been in the mental health service off and on since I was 11, and have tried Dialectical behaviour therapy, Mindfulness etc. I'm seeing a counsellor at the minute, last three sessions, then start again in 6 months time. Its brought a lot out I didn't know about, and has affected me deeply. But some progress has been made.

    One last thing. Doe's anyone know if there is a way to stop adverts, constantly coming on a laptop? Its doing me ed in so to speak.

    Hope all okay.

     

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    CindersCinders ✭✭✭

    Evening

    Nice to see you EDI and well done on the 5 years next month.

    Sinbad, I used something called Adblock, seems to block most of them.

    Running hit and miss here, still got ear probs.

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    booktrunkbooktrunk ✭✭✭

    Hi sinbad.

    adblocker is great if it's adverts. If you have malware on your laptop crap popping up non stop about buy x antivirus or you have x infection click here to fix it, or or other rubbish like that, then you need a decent anti malware program to get rid off it. 

    One of the best free ones that I've used is called combofix, you can download it for free from bleepingcomputers. it takes a while to work so be patient don't close it part way through just because it's not doing anything visible, can take half an hour. 

    http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/download/combofix/dl/12/

    you download it then just run the downloaded file. 

    If you haven't get some anti-virus product on your PC as well image

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    I've bought McAffee but it just doesn't seem to stop it.

    i will download it and give it a try.

    I managed a 5k walk this morning in 51.39, but that was nearly all walking.

    A far cry from my 47.52 some two weeks ago.

    I hope all okay.

    Thanks for that booktrunk

     

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    CindersCinders ✭✭✭

    Well I did suggest Adblock because sinbad said it was adverts!

     

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    Thanks for that Cinder's yes its mainly ads.Sorry to hear you still have hearing issues Cinders, hope it gets sorted soon for you.

    I managed to get in touch with an on line McAffee guru twice. The second one said it was more a technical and software issue with the laptop its self.

    This second time seems to be working. He took off something called Broadbent, I think? Apparently its one of these sites that allows ads to get on pc's. he was kind enough to take it off for me. It seems to have done the trick.

    Somehow got to find the motivation of pushing the booze and training forward now,  were already talking about new year though. He's a great friend though, he's been really supportive over these past 20 weeks. Yet i do want to stop, and work on boat, and running.

    Hows the training for the race going trigger2?

     

     

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    sinbad113 wrote (see)

     

    Somehow got to find the motivation of pushing the booze and training forward now,  were already talking about new year though.

     

     

    Sinbad, one thing to be aware of is that will power generally never seems to be much good when it comes to alcoholics and stopping drinking.  Of course will power is involved, but it's not good for a long term solution.  Why?  Because it fails us, mate.  I once got three months sober using will power; it wasn't much fun; and then I cracked and drank, just like you did after the 12 days.

    Staying sober using will power is a bit like Japanese water torture.  We feel restless, irritable, discontented; anxious; and that little voice in our heads is saying, "Hey, a drink would sort that out!  A drink would sort that out".  Eventually we cave in - maybe we just plan to drink a few to take the edge off it, but once we start drinking we crave for more and we've got to get the job finished.

    The secret (it's not really) to long term sobriety is to try and feel comfortable in our own skin.  If we have some measure of internal peace, we haven't got those feelings that drive us to drink.

    I found my solution to getting some measure of peace through A.A.'s 12 Steps and I can honestly say that I don't obsess about alcohol anymore at all.  The problem is just gone.

    It's an easier way to live, mate.

     

     

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    sinbad113sinbad113 ✭✭✭

    Hi All,

    A very good view point EDI, its just a pain in the but getting to an AA, and the daytime ones in my town seem to be for females only, for mixed and males, itsfinishes at 10pm and my last bus is at 11pm. Still no excuse, I will go at some point.

    What I have started doing is thinking to myself yeah I like feeling sober, my reward is another day staying that way. One thing I did learn at On Trak though is not only the point EDI has just made, but its like stepping stones, I wonder if slipping and sliding is part of every day recovery?

    Run wise I just got in from a 5k and my time was 48.09, I'm quite pleased with that. It was a bit hot out there today.

    I wonder how trigger2 got on today?

    Hope all okay?

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    sinbad113 wrote (see)

    its just a pain in the but getting to an AA, and the daytime ones in my town seem to be for females only, for mixed and males, itsfinishes at 10pm and my last bus is at 11pm. Still no excuse, I will go at some point.

    If you can get to a meeting, speak to the chairman and ask if someone can give you a lift home.  Someone will.  

    And someone once told me that if I wanted to recover from my alcoholism, I should be prepared to go to any lengths to do so.  It's a good attitude to have.  I used to go to any lengths to get booze (I've even lied and stolen to get it), so I tried to apply that 'any lengths' mentality to getting and staying sober.  

    If you tell me the area where you live, I'll let you know if the day time meetings are 'women's only'.  I'd be surprised if they were, there's not many women's only meetings around.

    And well done on the 5k.  

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