Until today I didn’t even know I owned such a thing, let alone the discomfort it could cause if it was tight. Over and above sports massage and liberal application of deep heat, does anyone know a suitable course of treatment / likely period of rest / general tips, to get rid of the bloody thing?
Thanks.
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ditto what nellyb said although i have found it easier to sit down, put the offending ankle on the other knee, and pull the base of the foot gently towards you
Interesting, thanks. My pain is localised to the knee area. I'd previously self-diagnosed the issue to be ITBS and worked for a week to fix that. Sports masseuse tells me otherwise.
Very tight (and this morning as a result of massage, painful) below knee on outside of lower leg.
Are the same stretches still suitable?
i would have thought so
theres a very helpful website here that shows you what muscles do what action
http://www.getbodysmart.com/ap/muscularsystem/menu/menu.html
also just thought, i think peroneus longus pain tends to be towards the ankle (although i could be wrong).
it may be something to do with one of your calf muscles (Gastrocnemius), look at lateral leg pain on this site http://www.triggerpoints.net/leg-ankle-foot.htm
Right, I've cribbed below pic from US Runners World website where same issue was discussed back in 2010 and no resolution found.
Star is location of the ache and the arrows indicate where it's tender / painful to touch:
I can ping about the place without issue; up / down stairs and then all of a sudden out of nowhere, sometime when static, the ache presents itself. I've stretched everything and foam rollered IT but the issue seems only to hide for a short while.
I want to avoid taking a hack saw to leg out of frustatioin. Any clues / leads most welcome!
When you say you have "foam rollered IT" by IT do you mean your IT Band or the muscle you indicated?
MM ... calf, soleus, ham, quad and gleuts being stretched twice daily. IT and now piriformis being foam rollered and I've recently found on t'internet a video on how to stretch the peroneus longus.
The knee ache seems to have subsided somewhat, although it occasionally produces cracking/snapping noise suggesting something is still awry and tenderness at top of peroneus longus (directly below knee) remains ever-present.
maybe just a case of time, gentle stretching, ice & massage.
I have problems with mine last year, but it was at the other end by the ankle and took 2-3 weeks before it was anywhere near better (using lots of the above!)
I use zero drop shoes and had to switch to shoes with more built up heels until it was recovered so as not to overstretch it.
It's a real b*gger. I tend not to eat particularly healthily, which running / triathlon training tends to counterbalance, however, forced rest combined with the associated "blues" isn't fun.
Regardless, thanks for contribution. I shall continue to hope that the peroneus longus messiah might still appear.
no i didnt rest either (oops), but continued to hobble and limp my way through the training i was doing at the time
Hi, I also have the same issue and would be interested to hear how it turned out for you.
.most thought it was tendonitus 3 mth treatment no improvement. Next thought to be muscle problem deep tissue massage still no improvement .i have now had back treatment which fingers x seems to be helping .i really hope you are more successful than i have been .my mistake was not to rest it long enough at the beginning .please rest to give it time to repair .i have had a very deppressive 7 mth let me know your symptoms. I found stretching made it worse . Good luck
No point at all stretching it, if you don't know why it's tight in the first place. Most bodily things get tight as a protective mechanism. You don't want to physically stretch out your protection......
Ignore the diagnosis, find out why.
Hi would lovecto know an solutions, my injury sounds very similar and the pic above shows exactly where the pain is. I can run for about 3.5 miles before 'bang' it explodes in pain and i cannot run through it. I'm so frustrated as all I want to do is run!
Honestly this is s problem that dates back almost 2 years. However this last episode with is enough to stop me running completely is since a marathon back in September.
How do you know when it is healed enough to run?
As much as you'd prefer not to, the best solution I can provide is to take a break from running, especially since peroneal tendon injuries have a tendency to turn particularly nasty if they're not afforded sufficient R&R.
Eric, I'm sorry to hear that you continue to remain troubled by your peroneals. I hope that you eventually find a solution.
While peroneal tendon injuries don't necessarily prevent you from cross-training, Louise, running is definitely best avoided during your recovery, in order to reduce the accumulation of scar tissue within the tendon.
In addition to wholly understanding your sense of frustration, I also appreciate the reasons behind why you seek a quick solution to your current problem, Louise. Sadly, peroneal tendon injuries can take months to repair, especially if you’ve attempted to continually run through the pain and discomfort.
Exactly a year ago, after landing awkwardly upon the outer edge of my right foot, I was under-going treatment for an acute injury to the area of the peroneal tendon beneath the ankle.
During my four month period of rehabilitation, I underwent a course of manipulation designed to break up the scar tissue that had accumulated. However, it took around 2 months of regular manipulation (both painful and ticklish in equal measure) before I began to see any improvement.
Since the tendon initially failed to respond to treatment, the suggestion of an air-cast (to completely immobilise my foot/tendon) and surgery (to cut away part of the injured tendon) were options considered by my physio. As I’ve said, depending upon the degree of damage, peroneal tendon injuries can turn nasty.
Thankfully, the options considered weren’t needed, as the tendon eventually responded to manipulation. However, during my period of rehabilitation, the location of the injury prevented me from performing certain calf exercises in the gym. For example, I could use the StairMaster without discomfort, but use of the calf-press machine left me feeling as though my tendon was ripping itself apart.
As such, the size and definition of my calves did somewhat suffer in late 2014. However, I considered the larger picture, in addition to appreciating that I had to be patient and allow the tendon time to heal.
Thankfully, following a four month course of manipulation and a relatively subdued period of resistance work, twelve months on, I’d consider that my peroneal tendon has fully healed since I’m able to perform calf presses without discomfort, loading the tendon with even more weight than I was able to before the occurrence of the injury.
Taking into consideration the position in which you find yourself, Louise, I’d recommend that you continue with the course of strengthening exercises that you’ve been instructed to perform, in addition to easing off on the running.
It does take time for tendons to recover (a lot longer than we all have the patience for), but a few months of relative inactivity are better than enduring a life-time of chronic pain.
My first post here - go easy on me haha. Well the descriptions above sound pretty accurate for what I've got, which is a sharp pain just below the knuckle of bone on the outside of my left leg just below the knee.
It's grumbled away for a while and got progressively worse over the last six weeks or so (I run 5k twice a week) . At its worst I have to stop running and hobble a bit, especially going downhill. I thought giving it a rest over xmas would help so I haven't run for a fortnight, but then on going for a speedy walk yesterday the pain was worse than ever and that was just walking. So much for giving it some rest!
What's also odd is that it goes away just as easily as it comes on. I had a two week period recently when I didn't feel it at all. Even after a run it can just disappear, despite being really painful when walking/running just half an hour earlier.
I'm off to a sports physio next week so happy to put on here what I find out, or not! Starting to wonder if I'd be better off cycling and swimming at least in the short term (am I allowed to say that on here haha).
Thoughts?!!?!? Thank you.
saw 3 physio wasn't much help for me except lighten my pocket though u might b more successful. Good luck.as you can see miserable git 1 getting there gradually thanks for your past advice
I had a problem with this a few years ago. Sports massage helped (was painful!). I also started massaging the peroneal muscles (and the calf muscles) every evening on days I'd run, and the following morning. Good luck with the physio.
Long and short of it is
- sharp pain on the outside of the knee, just below the joint
- begins after 15 or so minutes of running and builds quickly until I've got to stop
- limited pain after stopping and wake up the next day and it feels pretty much fine
- no problem walking
- 95% fine walking up/down steps (i've been training for a mountaineering trip, so have substituted running for step training)
It's 2 months since the initial injury and i'm literally no better. Physio was treating me for referred back pain, but i've just seen a sports physio who went nuts on this part of the calf and it hurt like hell - hence me trying to work out why.
Can anyone shed any light on recovery time at all or how it was resolved?