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Alas, I'm all in one piece and with just 1 more LSR to do I can see the end of the tunnel. Cumulative fatigue can flipping do one though, I'm shattered! And yes, you can get both mentally and physically fatigued, sometimes your brain really does just say enough is enough!
HIAHS - congratulations on your restraint. That is some run. Is he planning next week's route
I've got a, badly scheduled, half next week - so today was my last very long run and the most miles I've ever done in a week. However, to put that into perspective, Dannirr and Running Rodent have gone further in a single race
I ran MK Half today as a pacer. Got in just under 2:10 and paced with a top bloke who's been pacing for runners world for years. He's pacing 4:45 in London. I completely understand why people pace. It's just so much fun.
Met with Christopher Field and had a good chat. He's one to watch people. 20 miler in 2:52 and never run a marathon. Great running mate! Looking forward to seeing you again in Paris.
Only bad thing to report is I only managed to run 2.5 miles before I started so 1.5 miles short of the 17 I planned. Never mind. Will run something long on the weekend which will tell me how I'm doing. I really have no idea. I've not done loads of long runs but have enjoyed my training (most of the time). What will be will be in Paris. Thinking it will be my last for a while though. With 2 of us training for Marsthons for nearly a year I think it's time to spend more of the weekend with the kids.
Thames Riverside 20 today was tough. About 16 of the 20 miles must have been on very uneven trails - mud, puddles, rocks, boat slipways and cobbles. My poor blistered tootsies!!!
I was not very organised due to the very early start and never got the GPS going on my watch. Still waiting for an official time but I think it was about 2 hours 52ish so just under 8:40 pace which wasn't too bad considering the tough nature of the course and I was battling with re-fueling due to my Diabetes and having a sketchy rushed breakfast. I really don't like running that early in the day (8am Start).
It was a very friendly well run event by Clapham Chasers and the challenging nature of the course seemed to make it seem more like 21 to 22 miles which was good training and gives me an indication of where I am currently at since the injury.
Also chatting to others when having cake and goodies in Bishops Park after the race there were a large number of runners at the event today who are going to be running Paris in 4 weeks too, just none that contribute on here I don't think.
Now hoping that these blisters I have picked up from the tricky surfaces today heal quickly and am looking forwards to the North London Half in two weeks time.
I would've posted a few pictures up but rather foolishly dropped my phone coming out of the pub post race this afternoon so am unable to.
Me too Kenno! I ran a good 19 miler yesterday, playing with pace and hitting just below MP as per my coach's instructions...but the cumulative fatigue is strong today and I'm going to have to hide under my desk I think
I thought I was dying yesterday afternoon after my LSR, had time for a quick shower and had to sit down to a full roast lunch, which was gorgeous but I couldn't eat it all, and by the time I got into bed my body from the waist down was in agony, just couldn't wait to go to sleep! I've woken up in good form though, but not silly enough to try and go for a jog!
Glad its not just me UrbaneFoxLondon. I don't think I'm at the same mileage as you though and many others. Since end of December I've done 48m, 34m, 26m, 40m, 38m, 22m, 26m, 35m, 30m, 32m, 33m. Getting my mileage up towards 40m was just too much for my body. Starting to have doubts if I've done enough to run as well as I did in Amsterdam, let alone get under 4 hours. As much as I enjoy the buzz of a race, I'm struggling to see why I'm putting myself through all of this.
Just made some graphs of my training for Amsterdam and Paris. Actually looks like I'm doing more for Paris, maybe I've just got to suck it all up and get on with it. The big dip on the Amsterdam mileage was where I took 4 weeks out with shin splints, but did a lot of cycling instead. Looks like I'm doing better with the long runs as well. Last one next week and 3 week taper? I did 17 2 weeks before Amsterdam as a confidence builder.
You do have to just suck it up Kenno, there's nothing you can do about it now, just buckle up and enjoy the ride!
I crashed out of a big session last Thursday and shouted profanities on the track - My mind and body just said "STOP". As I trudged back home, I seriously thought to myself, why am I doing this?!?!? But, a good run the next day and a better than expected run yesterday has cheered me up. The buzz before a race is what keeps me going - standing in the calm with the other runners, nervously waiting for the gun to go...I love those moments
Standing with other runners, the great smell of Deep Heat. Gets the adrenaline going every time
I don't run with music but what are you currently listening to that fires you up? Do you listen to the classics or bangin' tunes? Queen/Survivor or Rudimental/Jesse Glynne?
I run to music but a mix of old and new-ish! Am adding the eye of the tiger this week but also run by Riggs da author.... Teenage son thinks there is hope for me!!!!
Hiii everyone. Sounds like a great weekend of running for lots of you this week.
I hit a mental and physical wall a few weeks ago but somehow off the back of what felt like my worst half at Wokingham something clicked and I'm firing on all cylinders again, hit every run scheduled this week including my 20 lsr, with final 6 miles Aug 10 seconds off race pace.... Which included a mile 18 and 19 at 10 seconds faster than R/P.
I have never felt so good after a 20 mile run, finished, stretched and then cooked full roast for mum without even a twinge in the legs.... Even more surprised as dinner night before was 3 course meal with cheese board wine and port...
Sorry to hear about the injury and niggles, most of the hard work has been done now guys just get those annoying aches and pains rested!!
Orbutt, I did my 20 with 0 music for the first time ever this weekend and it felt great but normally they are powered by a mixture of Queen, Kings of Leon, Grime and hip hop and podcasts... Basically any thing to distract from the normal burning muscle pains.
P. S who ever mentioned Marathon Talk podcast I'm so greatfull, I'm a podcast addict and this somehow slipped by me... It so good and informative as well as fun!
Hello - quick Monday list posting from me as I've got to dash off to catch a train in a sec... Will have to come back for a proper catch up later!
Mar 9: Book Day Challenge - Run Claire.
Mar 13: Bath Half - Christopher Field. Larmer Tree Marathon - Nodster. Liverpool Half – Orbutt. Silverstone Half – Andy-W, Your pace or mine. Gloucester 20 - Tired Legs. Surrey Half - Sunnysider Phil.
Mar 17-20: Quad @ Enigma Week – Thisisnatty.
Mar 20 Brentwood Half - Last out of the Water. Stafford Half - Christopher Field. North London Half – Smudgerncfc, Your pace or mine. Fleet Half - iantcox.
Mar 25: Leggy Mountbatten's birthday.
Mar 26: Two Oceans - Danni.
Apr 3: Betzza’s Birthday. PARIS MARATHON 2016.
Apr 10: Kaz's birthday. Manchester Marathon - Agent Penguin, Your pace or mine.
Apr 11: Chris Morgan's birthday.
Apr 16-17: Star Wars Darkside Challenge - Danni.
Apr 17: Brighton Marathon – Meadower, Thisisnatty. Brighton Marathon 10k - Your pace or mine. Birmingham Zebra 10k - Christopher Field.
Apr 18: Boston – Sunnysider Phil.
Apr 23: Kirsten Lancs Lass' birthday.
Apr 24: Picklelily's birthday. London Marathon - Jimbob, Stuchbury, Heroine in a half-shell, Pistol101, Your pace or mine, Thebigone, Magna Carter.
Apr 30: Nashville Rock & Roll Marathon - Nodster.
May 1: Birmingham 10k - Christopher Field, AspirantRunner. Brecon to Cardiff Ultra - Running Rodent.
May 8: Leeds Half - Andy W. Run Hackney - Tired Old Legs, KeyserSuze, Nells, Your pace or mine, UrbaneFoxLondon. Bromsgrove 10k - Christopher Field.
May 14: Arun River Marathon - Nodster.
May 15: Scott W's birthday. Chester Half - Christopher Field.
May 17: Simon Mac's birthday.
May 20: The Dark and Light Ox - KeyserSuze.
May 21: Half Ox: KeyserSuze. Ironman Lanzarote - Magna Carter.
May 22: Richmond Park Marathon - Nodster. Worcester Half Marathon - Christopher Field. Great Manchester Run - UrbaneFoxLondon. Copenhagen Marathon - Eggyh73. Ox Ultra - Heroine in a half-shell.
May 28: Kent Roadrunner Marathon - Nodster. Liverpool Rock & Roll 5k - Christopher Field.
May 29: Comrades Marathon - Danni. Liverpool Rock 'n’ Roll Marathon – Andy-W, Orbutt. Liverpool Rock 'n’ Roll Half Marathon – Christopher Field. Mont St Michel Marathon - Miss Laure. Edinburgh Marathon - Mistletoe Mike.
May 30: Bupa London 10k - Nodster, Nells, LloydR.
Jun 1: Penny71’s birthday.
Jun 2: Eggy's birthday.
Jun 4: Harvel H5 - baldstan.
Jun 5: Stour Valley Marathon - Lloyd R.
Jun 11: Worcester Go Dad 10k - Christopher Field.
Jun 12: Two Castles 10k - Christopher Field.
Jun 18: Tromso Midnight Sun Marathon - Heather S, Nodster, Meadower, Running Rodent, Eggyh73, Heroine in a half-shell.
Jun 23 : Nodster’s birthday.
Jun 25: Keyser Suze's birthday. Giant's Head Marathon - Heroine in a half-shell.
Jun 26: Olympic tri - Tallington - Magna Carter.
Jul 2: Black Country Half Marathon - Christopher Field.
Jul 3: Bewl 15 - baldstan.
Jul 10: Leeds 10k - Andy W. Coventry Northbrook 10k - Christopher Field. Sprint tri Spalding - Magna Carter.
Jul 16: Race to the Stones: Heroine in a Half-Shell, Running Rodent.
Jul 20: Meadower's birthday.
Jul 23: Iron distance tri - Outlaw Nottingham - Magna Carter.
Jul 28: ATM's birthday.
Aug 4: Uisge Jo's birthday.
Aug 6: Phoenix Summer Marathon - Nodster.
Aug 7: York 10k - Andy W.
Aug 13: Roseland August Trail (Black RAT - 32 miles) - Christophe D.
Aug 18: Andy W’s birthday.
Aug 27: Enigma Marathon - Nodster.
Sep 4: Benign Murmurring's birthday. Maidenhead Half - iantcox.
Sep 10: Half Ironman - The Vitruvian - Magna Carter.
Sep 11: Great North Run - Andy W, Christopher Field, Hales HayleyB. Surrey Bacchus Marathon - Benign Murmurring, N
Sep 11: Great North Run - Andy W, Christopher Field, Hales HayleyB. Surrey Bacchus Marathon - Benign Murmurring, Nells, Nodster.
Sep 16: PC's birthday, Mrs O's birthday.
Sep 18: Richmond Half Marathon - baldstan.
Sept 25: Berlin Marathon - Mister Mike. Ealing Half - iantcox. Robin Hood Marathon - Nodster. Cheltenham Half - Christopher Field.
Sep 26: Hayley B's birthday.
Oct 2: Chester Marathon - Andy W, Meadower.
Oct 6: Onetit's birthday.
Oct 9: Yorkshire Marathon - Karen Bowman 2, iantcox. Great Eastern Run Half - Magna Carter.
Oct 16: Amsterdam Marathon - Christopher Field. Cabbage Patch 10 - Nells.
Oct 30: Orapidrun's birthday.
Nov 6: Danni's birthday. New York Marathon - The Jimbob.
Nov 20: Phoenix Winter Marathon - Nodster.
Nov 25: Jimbob's birthday.
Nov 26: Saxon Shore Saturday - Nodster.
Nov 27: Saxon Shore Sunday - Nodster.
Dec 18: Portsmouth Coastal Waterside - Nodster.
2017
Jan 1: Roundman's birthday.
Jan 3: OO52's birthday.
Jan 7: Polar Night Half Marathon - LloydR
Jan 12: Orbutt's birthday.
Jan 15: Yer Maj's birthday.
Jan 30: Stuchbury's birthday.
Feb 10: Emmy's birthday.
Mar 1: Radar Sal's birthday.
Apr 7-17: Marathon des Sables - Dannirr, Nodster.
Lots of long runs getting banked. Did my 4th 20 miler of this campaign yesterday in the Essex 20 Road Race Championship which includes an Inter County Match.
I finished a somewhat average sounding 237th place out of 393. But finished in 2:50 which is only 3 mins off my PB for the undulating course. Got my target 8:30 pace spot-on, although not perfect execution as I started out a bit quick and finished slightly slower. Good for the confidence though but wondering what will happen when I have to find another 6.2 miles
It is a 3 lap course and I was lapped halfway round the 2nd lap by the leaders. The first two both finished within seconds of each other in a mind-boggling 1:47.
Overall winner was a local Essex man and the team win went to Essex. First lady was in the Bedfordshire team in case that makes anyone happy.
Legs are surprisingly good today although they went a bit wobbly when I saw what HIAHS had done for a training run.
a bizarre mix of Bruce Springsteen and Erasure seems to work for me at the moment...something about being "Born to Run" and giving "A Little Respect"...no shame.
PARIS 2016 list
Preferential pen (speed of light):
510 – The Jimbob
522 – Steve Duffy 2
864 - UrbaneFoxLondon
Red pen (3hr):
3575 – Sunnysider Phil
3628 – Christophe D
4465 – Heroine in a Half Shell
4513 – Mr HIAHS
4824 – Banksy7
4889 – Shane329
5946 – KennyM
6424 - Nodster
Yellow pen (3:15):
9290 – Andy-W
11845 - Boquito
12471 – Your Pace or Mine
Blue Pen (3:30):
18080 – Kenno
18256 – LloydR
21484 – Carl D
24214 – Bandito27
??????? - Stuchbury
Purple pen (3:45):
29410 – Orbutt
29546 – ThisIsNatty
29611 – E mmy
29639 – PC
29707 – Onetit
30515 – Mattleydon
30667 – Pistol101
30776 – Whiskybob
31769 – Gunner Runner
31858 – KeyserSuze
33204 – Quinn the Eskimo
37357 – Richard Barrett
37374 – Christopher Field
37589 – Smudgerncfc
43575 – NGUG
Green pen (4hr):
44484 - AspirantRunner
45575 – Magna Carter
46168 - AmanJ
46765 - Baldstan
48297 – Reflekting
48449 – Chris Cato
52579 – Amalik
53208 – Ed Ridley
53705 – Loulou
53706 – Karen Bowman 2
Grey pen (4:15):
57428 – Nells
57140 - HeatherS
58736 – Mr KeyserSuze
59954 – Goinglong
60211 - Iantcox
61327 – Last out of the water
62326 – RobH4
62364 – Mister Mike
62650 – EHN
62896 – VictorMeldrew
Pink pen (4:30+):
65227 – Penny71
65499 – LeggyMountbatten
65540 – Betzza
66763 - Alilee
67176 – Loubella
67210 – Ali 38
67356 – Ness2
67445 – ClaireH85
68001 - Wendy Dibble
68656 – Julie-Marie
69152 – Hayley Bennett2
69321 – Littlelau1
65211 –RunClaire
65445 – Thebigone
67360 – Radford70
68836 - Amandalou
71622 - Moominrun
71870 – Tired Legs
To find your number/pen - log in to your ASO account - http://www.asochallenges.com/, there is a large red box to the left of the screen, click 'my order' and your details are there. You should be able to change your pen on the day if required. Someone will post on the forum when the Convocation (a piece of paper that you HAVE to take with you to the Expo) is ready to download, normally a couple of weeks before the race.
My fav playlist at the moment is below. Some unashamedly cheesy tracks in there. Nothing like a bit of Black Lace to keep you going.
Hey Dude - Kula Shaker
Don't Be So Hard On Yourself - Jess Glynne
The Race - Yello
Cuddly Toy - Roachford
Shine - Take That
The Life Of Riley - The Lightning Seeds
Superman - Black Lace
Eye Of The Tiger - Survivor
Cuddly Toy - Roachford
Thousand Mile Stare - Chicane
Adventure of a Lifetime - Coldplay
Fireflies - Owl City
Best Song Ever - One Direction
Thunderstruck - AC/DC
Uptown Funk
Signed, Sealed, Delivered I'm Yours - Stevie Wonder
My Sharona - The Knack
Rather - Clean Bandit
Love Me Again - John Newman
Hold My Hand - Jess Glynne
Hi kenno, just wondering what software you used to generate those graphs. Would like to do same to compare mytraining last year. Could do with a mental boost right now!
It was good to do a proper event to practice fuel/ water/kit etc for the big day.
Hales I hope your injury is getting sorted
Thank you everyone for sharing their experience and tips especially with us marathon 1st timers. It is all very daunting ...
Hi Shane329 - I didn't use anything fancy, just Excel. I put my weekly miles from Strava into a spreadsheet and pulled out the long run from each of those weeks. I was convinced I'd not put the miles in that I did for Amsterdam, but how wrong was I??
When should I taper though? Would there be any benefit to doing 15-16 2 weeks before? I did that before Amsterdam and ran well and 13 the week before (which was a half). Or would I have ran better if I didn't do that?
Had my worst run of all time on Saturday. Poorly tummy, had to stop twice for loo breaks and eventually stopped at mile 12 (I was scheduled 14 miles). To add insult to injury I was sick when I got home. I felt totally demoralised.
Any way, picked myself up and went to my yoga class this morning. 90 minutes of hell-think the yoga teacher must have had a bad weekend
! Then decided to go for a run to see how I got on, straight from class. Tomorrow's 5 miles in the bag- a whole minute per mile quicker than last week!!!! Feeling happier now!
That's the million dollar question Kenno! I think recovery time will depend on how fit you are and how tired you already are. 15 miles two weeks out would not particularly be a problem, but if you're absolutely shattered from training up until that point then you're not just asking your body to recover from the 15 miles but also from all the training before that. It will also depend on the percentage of weekly miles that the 15 miles would represent, eg if you're used to running 50 mile weeks then a 15 mile run within an already reduced week is probably nowhere near as significant as a it would be if you're only averaging 30 miles in the week beforehand, and you're tapering, and you're also planning to do half of those miles as a 15 mile run then maybe it does represent a greater effort? So really only you can answer that question. Do you fancy running a 15 mile run two weeks before? If you do then go for it, only you know how your legs feel, how training has gone and how quickly you feel you recover.
thanks Kenno, Excels not my strong point but will play around with it tonight.
As for taper, Im using the P+D plan which calls for 20, 17, and then 13 the week before race. Im gonna stick with this- no races, just long run pace.
And the 13 miles a week before is a definite no, I would not recommend it, no adaptations would be seen that quickly anyway so it's pointless, you will gain more from your body being rested than you would gain in fitness from doing the session, and you'd not lose fitness in that time either.
Shane329 - Here is my spreadsheet. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22441586/Training.xlsx It goes from 16 weeks out (doesn't include the actual marathon week). Just replace your data with mine and you'll get some pretty graphs.