Interesting article TallGal, I guess alot of people think their lives will be better if they were thinner. I've been fat, I've been thin, I've been in the middle and its hasn't made that much difference apart from it being very difficult to find nice clothes if you are fat.
But most people always praise you if you look as though you have lost weight and admire this fact.
i think the pressure on women in the public eye to look a certain way does put some pressure on other women to look the same - i think it is worst when teenagers and younger become pressured into looking a certain way because they are missing out on so much by trying to squeeze themsleves into the identikit 'boxes' that are given as image role models
im always interested to watch tv progs that use presenters like news - the women are often very attractive and look similar - whereas there are plenty of overweight and unattractive men reading the news etc -but women who are adjudged to be overweight or unnatractive get a lot of negative comments
youve probably got too strong a personality to fall into anorexia TG - i think anorexics have a lot of difficult issues going on that they can only manage thru an eating disorder
having been borderline bulimic -i think self image can come into it - i ate to mange feelings - binges were a way of pushing away anxiety - and vomiting was a way of making sure that i didnt gain any more weight
one theory about why models tend to be thin is that most of the top designers are gay men who's designs would be more suited to young men's shape than womens and as the fashion industry leads (along with music, film and media) trends on the high street follow
one thing that really P155es me off is womens sports wear - the largest size most brands do tend s to be a 16 - but a skinny 16 -
dont they think that bigger built women do sport at all - womens running gear is just as bad - not every woman who runs is built like Paula - youd think that an industry that is aimed at peeps who exercise to lose weight and get fitter would take into account the real sizes of the customers
I'd just like to chip in that it's not just women that suffer from eating disorders and gyms are full of men not happy with their body image. Being fat is not just something which affects women it's just that men present the problem differently. Women's magazines have pages devoted to it but magazines for men which deal with it dress it up as "fitness" advice. All those "Men's Health" etc with six-pack stomachs all over the shop. They never have big articles on the fact that if you can see that level of definition then you are undernourished and have an unhealthy level of bodyfat. Women with six-packs are in an even poorer health situation. Athletes have the bodies they do because they need to cart them round at high speed over long distances. They are uber fit but also uber unhealthy.
Athletes are uber unhealthy? I've been an ahtlete all this time then!!!
But tell me, Didge, if there were three women, all Elle McPhearson lookalikes facially, but one was very slim, one was slightly big and one was a real big lass, who would you go for?
I agree with so much. The ideal of acceptable female beauty has changed immeasureably. Marilyn Monroe was size 16 and I believe Jane Mansfield was too. Would they even be considered WOMEN nowadays?
There is a difference in the way men and women think. Men look at themselves in the mirror when they're 17. They stay looking that way for the rest of their lives; or they think they do. Women are never happy with their shapes. I have been size 10 and size 16 - I was a fat 10 and I'm a fat 16. Added to that, I'm 43. Now. I know beautiful size 16 43 year old women. I know women I envy who look better now than they did 15 years ago. I don't know any women who THINK they look better, or even as good, as they did 15 years ago.
I am not a fan of Barbara Cartland, but one piece of advice she gave was that, since slim older women wrinkle, it is best to remain plump and greet gentleman callers sitting down.
I am afraid I would love to be a size 10 again. Even with wrinkles
To echo Dodge, I think you can be healthy but not fit and vice versa or even both or not as the case might be:
Healthy can be measured by: Reasonable weight and happy with it Reasonable fat content and again happy with it healthy blood cells and blood flow (measured with live blood analysis) Drinking loads of water Various other chemical measures which I can't think of, off the top of me head
Being fit might mean: Ability to move your body over a distance very quickly using a mechanical device if required. You may not have a 'healthy' weight or fat content. Blood flow and blood cells should be good though Not sure about the other chemical levels.
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But most people always praise you if you look as though you have lost weight and admire this fact.
But you don't live your life obsessed by thiness, do you? I'm very curious as to what will push a person to anorexia and bulimia.
im always interested to watch tv progs that use presenters like news - the women are often very attractive and look similar - whereas there are plenty of overweight and unattractive men reading the news etc -but women who are adjudged to be overweight or unnatractive get a lot of negative comments
its a personality disorder thats a bit differet
currently
im drinking and spending to much
I'm yet to see an over-60 woman, looking every bit her age as a newscaster, that will be the day!!!
Well, I want to lose weight, but anorexia???
Could never happen to me.
having been borderline bulimic -i think self image can come into it - i ate to mange feelings - binges were a way of pushing away anxiety - and vomiting was a way of making sure that i didnt gain any more weight
plug and purge
What do you think about this one then? Apparently, men find larger women attractive. This is news to me.
Big Lassws
thats old news!
doesnt help at all though does it
dont they think that bigger built women do sport at all - womens running gear is just as bad - not every woman who runs is built like Paula - youd think that an industry that is aimed at peeps who exercise to lose weight and get fitter would take into account the real sizes of the customers
this is clear
But tell me, Didge, if there were three women, all Elle McPhearson lookalikes facially, but one was very slim, one was slightly big and one was a real big lass, who would you go for?
There is a difference in the way men and women think. Men look at themselves in the mirror when they're 17. They stay looking that way for the rest of their lives; or they think they do.
Women are never happy with their shapes. I have been size 10 and size 16 - I was a fat 10 and I'm a fat 16. Added to that, I'm 43. Now. I know beautiful size 16 43 year old women. I know women I envy who look better now than they did 15 years ago. I don't know any women who THINK they look better, or even as good, as they did 15 years ago.
I am not a fan of Barbara Cartland, but one piece of advice she gave was that, since slim older women wrinkle, it is best to remain plump and greet gentleman callers sitting down.
I am afraid I would love to be a size 10 again. Even with wrinkles
or not as the case might be:
Healthy can be measured by:
Reasonable weight and happy with it
Reasonable fat content and again happy with it
healthy blood cells and blood flow (measured with live blood analysis)
Drinking loads of water
Various other chemical measures which I can't think of, off the top of me head
Being fit might mean:
Ability to move your body over a distance very quickly using a mechanical device if required.
You may not have a 'healthy' weight or fat content.
Blood flow and blood cells should be good though
Not sure about the other chemical levels.
speed again
no mention of endurance
thoght that may not be "healthy"
Not quite as bad on TV, but in films - again, Keanu, Brad etc.