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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

     

     

    Nick Windsor 4 wrote (see)

     I'd probably be up there making it happen. 


    As what?

    I seem to remember someone else talking in vague terms about a general problem, perpetuated by a hidden and unaccountable organisation..... Many people listened and believed him. It did not end well....  

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    People don't just make change for progress. I've seen it happen where I work.

    As new managers at various levels joined and left our responsibilities changed, we moved desks, departments, floors and buildings two or three times. At one point a long, expensive experiment took place to see if two jobs could be merged into on (they couldn't as one is a specialist role).

    Now, seven or eight years on we are back where we started only with a bigger team - which was all that was really needed in the first place.

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    You just have to look at some of those police TV progs, the ones with real police, to see the poor quality of police officers.  they are mind bogglingly unprofessional in so many ways from their language, infantile jokes, swaggering big man attitudes and the women aren't any better.  And whats worrying are these the ones whose senior officers have obviously thought would do a good job of representing the force, makes you wonder about the ones they wouldn't let near the cameras.

    Apart from the s.wales force who were all lovely.

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    but the tv makers of any shows usually only pick up on the behaviousr that they think will make better ratings..........

    on the jungle shows etc..no doubt for 23 hours of the day they get on great so lets show the 5 mins when nerves got frayed and they argued with each other

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭
    Miffi wrote (see)

    Apart from the s.wales force who were all lovely.


    Are you sure about that?

    This is what happens if they see you not wearing a seat belt....

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fqdd38jfYQg

    I like the bit where after trying to kick their way through the windscreen and simultaneously smash the side window.....

    They realise the door is not locked 

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    I'd agree normally Seren but these interactions with the public actually happen, time and again the officers being filmed are arrogant and confrontational, demonstating poor communication skills and a complete lack of insight into how their behaviour will be perceived.

    In the jungle scenario it matters not a jot if the stuff that makes it to the screen is skewed for entertainment value.  On a documentary about the police, what is show is that those officers think thats how they should be behaving, not in moments of pure stress when faced with a knife weilding thug but when pulling over everyday motorists or stopping young men in the street because they 'think' they are acting suspiciously.

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

    I would like to add that I have the utmost respect for the Police; they are a wonderful bunch who do a difficult and sometimes impossible job. They have dug me out of the shit a few times and I have reciprocated....

    But these twats are/were a disgrace to the uniform....

    I will dig out the rest of the story

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    I haven't worked out why we have any of those police shows on tv to be honest......same as all the ones which show idiotic drivers.........

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

    I cannot find the rest, but Mr Whatley made a complaint about a Police officer. When the officer discovered Mr Whatley had made a complaint, he made a complaint about Mr Whatley. One persons word against another; the officers word was taken. However the officer in question was later found to be dishonest and dismissed.

    Cases where his 'word' was accepted as evidence were reviewed and Mr Whatley was cleared. But that was not the end of it; hence the number plate....

    Found it!

     

    http://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/archive/2004/09/30/Gwent+Archive/4601150.Pensioner_set_to_sue_police/

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

    It gets worse Nick; he claimed he was harassed out of his job and claimed compensation....

    Sorry, has successfully claimed.... he could get a six figure sum....

     

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    I agree with whats said above, but that link is to an article 9 years ago, and the incident was the year before that.  And the idiot officer was exposed due to concerns by his colleagues which lead to the sting operation and him being caught nicking cash.. so I'm standing by my comment about the S.Wales police image

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭
    Miffi wrote (see)

    I agree with whats said above, but that link is to an article 9 years ago, and the incident was the year before that.  And the idiot officer was exposed due to concerns by his colleagues which lead to the sting operation and him being caught nicking cash.. so I'm standing by my comment about the S.Wales police image

    The car incident was 4 years ago... and is still ongoing. The incident that apparently sparked it all off was 9 years ago. The thieving officer had been dismissed before the car incident was filmed.

    The point being that this was not just one 'rotten apple' but a whole bunch of them. Some of whom are still officers

    Even the Police accept that there are many hundreds of bent cops on the force

     

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

    I am not sure whether these clowns were motivated by revenge, anger, frustration or stupidity.

    But I do not think you will ever stamp bent cops out; crime is a multi-billion pound international problem. Where there is the money to line peoples pockets there will be people who will take it.

    All you can do is create a system that allows people to speak up.

    And more to the point say NO next time someone offers you some stuff, "No questions asked"

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    I'm lost, I thought the theiving officer was the car incident officer?   

    My own dealings with the police have always been most pleasant.  and they aren't the south wales force.

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    SideBurnSideBurn ✭✭✭

    In my experience the British Police are outstanding; I am not anti-Police, quite the opposite in fact.

    But in any organisation there are good and bad, like people who blame 'the system' or 'health and safety' for their own failings.

    I am just asking people not to use their example to slag off the many who put their heart and soul into their jobs

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