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    Enjoy ur parkrun Mr P- jealous I have to miss the parkrun phenomenon for 2 weeks- next time I go I'll be run director though image scary- lots of responsibility!



    So this mornin when I left Colchester it was bright and sunny but have arrived to it being quite overcast in London- given how early the race starts tomorrow this could mean a quick starting pace with overheating if it gets sunnier as the sun rises. On my way to the international cake and sugar craft show... This is a good way to carbo load right?



    I don't think I'll add extra length on. I'll let u know my race plan after the raceimage
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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭

    Is that Excel Angela? We'll be there next Saturday!!

    great morning for a race, all went to plan and I arrived at the start just as the runners were mustering, saw a couple of people from my club and got my breath back before the off. Not far in some d***head cut in front of me and his heel caught me hard on my shin, but in true parkrun style I apologised to him!

    I lost my barcode but I was 37th in 22:38.

    7.247.41
    7.22
    1.11

    Avg 7.29

    I felt quite comfortable all the way round, just as well really, and resisted the urge to race kids etc. just tomorrow to get out of the way now and that's it!

     

     

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    MalcsMalcs ✭✭✭

    Mr P - nice job on the parkrun! Longer run tomorrow then? Love the weighbridge comment image

    Angela - the uniform for the school my son is going to is....wait for it....brown and yellow! Yes, I did say brown and yellow. It's like a training camp for UPS. Also they are dead strict on it - socks and jackets have to match or they get taken away (in a Homer vs Bart style moment I have dared him to wear red underpants on his first day). They have to be exactly the right shade of brown. Gloves too. Crazy.

    Best of luck tomorrow. I think it might be a good thing for you if it's hot. Good practice for those conditions. Yet again I've done nothing in the heat - just watch it soar next Sundayimage

    sarah osborne wrote (see)
    Looks like the nerves have set in properly now, after only 5.5 hours sleep I was tired but wide awake unable to sleep - might end up needing a drink to get a good nights sleep at this rate!

    Sorry, I hope I haven't passed the nerves on? image 

    Thanks for posting the info from Ruth. I'm feeling alot more comfortable with my strategy now.

    I did my last 'long' run this morning. Went for 9 miles in the end. Noticably hotter than of late. Took a gel early on and did a jelly baby per mile. No stomach issues and the JB's went down really easily. 

    I may up the number of JBs based on what you've posted from Ruth. I reckon I'll need more fuel than a lightweight like yourself (that was a compliment btw.). So I'll go for 8 JB's (36g) + one gel (22g) = 58g per hour for the first two hours (116g total) then just JB's for the next hour (+36g = 152g total) and go by what I can stomach after that. 

    I've said it before and I'll say it again, it is soooooo nice to taper properly. Today's run was great. Nice and easy (I tried to keep it slower but averaged 8:40mm) felt like a warm up all the way which is just what I wanted.

    Looking forward to a week of easy short runs and no doubt a few adrenaline filled final few days.

    Good luck with your 8-10 on Sunday Sarah. Should be nice weather for it.

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    Yup- I'm at excel image funny to be here when the proportion of overweight/obese is significantly high... Will be quite a different place next week I expectimage



    Just checked Colchester parkruns results page- we managed to get more runners than we had last week! Virtually unheard of for a newly launched parkrun as u tend to get parkrun tourists coming to the opening... Even more scared about being run director now image



    Yellow and brown Malcs! That IS mean!! I was lucky my school uniforms were always various shades of blue and comfortable, though there was a period I was only allowed to wear skirts not trousers- I'm sure that can't be legal these days. In the VIth form there was no uniform whereas at the boys school they had to wear a suit- quite expensive for the parents to have to buy their 16 ur old enough suits and shirts for a 5 day week methinks... Rich for a state school anyway!



    One of the reason my schools results have been going down is the boys school started accepting girls into the sixth form, so we had a brain drain... In order to persuade us to stay at an assembly around the time we had to make the choice my headmistress told us 'boys are for recreation, not education'.image I believed her! And totally agree image. Too much distraction at uni- my grades really suffered!
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭

    I'm going to paste an eating plan that someone has forwarded onto me for a week leading up to the marathon.  We talked about it on our run this morning and from what my friend said it didn't account for the runners weight so you would probably have to increase/decrease portions based on your weight.  Although I'm copying this I haven't actually studied it myself to see the pros and cons but since the recent discussion have been centred around carb loading (as well as house sales, cars, and schools image) I thought it might be of interest.  I'll probably have to do it over a few posts...

     

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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭

    Ignore the dates - this is from a few years ago.

     

    The Flora London Marathon (Sunday 26 April 2009) is the most high-profile endurance event of the sporting calendar and this eating plan will give you the optimum amount of fuel to get you over the finishing line with a personal best. But you don’t have to own a cupboard littered with spent running shoes to tuck in. Sport nutritionist Matt Lovell (sportsnutritionvlog.com) has designed it for those who want to ensure they’ve got enough fuel in the tank to get through any extreme. “First of all you need to load up on carbohydrates,” states Lovell. “When you’re training normally they should make up 55% of your total calorie intake but leading up to the race your muscles need to store more fuel to be used on the day of the competition. This is done by manipulating your intake in the final week before the race.” It’s not a miracle eating plan that’ll deliver wildly enhanced performance in a week – you need to have put the hours in first – but the following dietary tweaks will give you an extra edge by making sure your body is fuelled to capacity and ready to run the race of your life.

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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
      Monday 20th April
    • Breakfast
      100g oats
      150ml skimmed milk
      1 banana

      Snack
      1 small baked potato with baked beans
      1 apple

      Lunch
      50g pasta with chicken breast
      Mixed vegetables

      Snack
      Granola bar
      1 orange

      Dinner
      250g sirloin steak
      30g basmati rice
      Green beans
      Sweetcorn

      Why?
      In the final week before the event you’ll taper off your training so you’re well rested. This should be a two-tier strategy. “You also need to shrink your meal sizes as don’t want to pick up extra body weight,” says Lovell.
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
    Tuesday 21st April
    • Breakfast
      2 scrambled eggs
      2 slices of white toast
      200ml orange juice

      Snack
      Mixed fruit salad with
      200ml of fat-free yoghurt
      Sprinkled with mixed seeds

      Lunch
      Tuna and chickpea pita with:  
      Honey
      Mustard
      Watercress
      Sliced tomato

      Snack
      Bowl of vegetable soup
      1 apple

      Dinner
      Broccoli
      250g grilled fish
      30g brown rice
      Carrots

      Why?
      Today is when you’re the most likely to feel a few hunger pangs. “You’ll reduce your carb intake to 35% of the total calories you eat today,” says Lovell. “This will gradually deplete your system of carbs and will pave the way for the carbo-loading phase later in the week.” Soldier through it and avoid the temptation to sneak in a few snacks – you’ll be rewarded with bigger meals later in the week.
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
      Wednesday 22nd April
    • Breakfast
      3-egg omelette with:
      Diced red pepper
      Tomato
      25g cheese

      Snack
      50g almonds
      Dried apricots

      Lunch
      Tuna salad
      1 apple
      1 small bunch grapes

      Snack
      200ml fat-free yoghurt
      Diced fruit salad

      Dinner
      Chicken breast and mixed vegetable stir-fry

      Why?
      “Today your carb intake will continue to be low and will again make up only 35% of the total calories you eat,” explains Lovell. “You’ll obviously still be training, but the distances you’ll cover and intensity will be lower than usual. Your activity levels will be lower so the reduced carb intake will keep you lean before the race. You’ll deplete the amount of energy that is stored in your muscle, which primes them to be able to store more oomph in the days leading up to the race.” Think of it like an oil change – you have to fully drain the car’s old grease before you can add the supercharged performance boosting oil.
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
    Thursday 23rd April
    • Breakfast
      4-5 large pancakes with jam or honey
      1 banana
      200ml orange juice

      Snack
      2 large bowls of cornflakes
      1 apple

      Lunch
      1 large jacket potato
      Baked beans
      Cheese
      Mixed salad

      Snack
      200ml fat-free yoghurt
      100ml coconut milk
      60g mixed berries
      1 banana  
      2 Weetabix
      50ml skimmed milk

      Dinner
      Spaghetti bolognaise
      Mixed salad

      Why?
      It’s likely that today will be your last training session so that you can be fully recovered before the race. “It’s at this point that you’ll ramp up your carb intake so that it makes up 70% of the total calories you eat. The result – muscles that are “maxed out” in their carb and energy storing ability.”
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
       Friday 24th April
    • Breakfast
      3 egg omelette
      2 slices whole-wheat toast
      1 orange

      Snack
      1 large portion of rice pudding with added coconut milk

      Lunch
      2 roasted vegetables and Mozzarella cheese baps

      Snack
      Small jacket potato
      Cottage cheese
      1 apple

      Dinner
      250g of pasta
      Tomato passata

      Why?
      “In the final 48 hours leading up to the race you’ll avoid high-fibre foods like beans, bran cereals, lettuce and broccoli to evade an upset stomach during your race,” says Lovell. “Your diet will continue to be made up of 70% carbohydrates and because this is your rest day you won’t be burning any of the calories off.” This turns your muscles into an energy storage depot that’ll be at full capacity by Sunday.
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
      Saturday 25th April
    • Breakfast
      2 English muffins
      2 eggs
      Big bowl of Cornflakes with milk

      Snack

      150ml fat-free yoghurt with:
      100ml coconut milk
      Sultanas
      2 bananas
      2 Weetabix

      Lunch
      250g of pasta with
      Olives
      Sliced and skinless baby tomatoes
      Mozzarella cheese balls

      Snack
      5-6 slices of watermelon
      4 slices of white bread toast with jam

      Dinner
      2 turkey breasts
      Carrots
      Courgettes
      Potato and butternut squash mash

      Why?
      “Today’s meals are all very low in fibre and continue to be made up of 70% carbs,” explains Lovell. “You’ll need these to flood your muscles with one final flush of energy. They are all plain-tasting refined carbs, which are easy to digest, and won’t loiter in your belly when the time comes to hear the starter’s whistle. Your muscles will now be saturated with energy, in the form of glucose, which you’ll be able to put to good use throughout the race.” Sleep easy knowing that you’re loaded with more energy than a Russian Oligarch.
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    MinniMinni ✭✭✭
    Sunday 26th April (race day)
    • Breakfast pre-race meals
      Special K or Cornflakes or Rice Krispies
      Glass of skimmed milk
      1 banana

      OR
      3 slices of white bread with jam
      1 banana

      OR
      Small bowl of basmati rice
      Tomato passata

      OR
      1 peanut butter bagel
      Glass of orange juice

      During the race
      Sports drinks, bars or gels
      OR
      Fruit slices
      OR
      Jellybeans

      Why?
      These meals aren’t rich in dense carbs because you don’t want anything to be bouncing around in your gut while you run. “They have a small portion of carbs and are low in fibre and fat to prevent any delay in digestion before the event. Whatever you eat before and during the race, make sure you’ve tried it before during a practice run.” Your stomach might react strangely to new foods and this is not the time to experiment – those aren’t the kind of ‘runs’ that you’ve been training for.
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    Hi Mr P....Some people are so mean!



    Well done on the park run today. Was a lovely morning with the sun shining. Did the other runner apologise to you too? Minni sustained a shin injury too today!



    How far are you planning on running tomorrow? How was your legs today?
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    Hi Angela,



    what do you have to do as race director? I have to agree the title does sound quite scary.



    Did you get to sample much cake and sugary things?



    I cant believe that this time next week I will have collected my number and probably be bricking it!



    Just wondering what would you recommend that I do in London on the Saturday with my parents and chris. The original idea was to go and have a look at the olympic village but ive been told that its closed now to the general public.



    I was quite lucky at school, we just had to wear a maroon jumper and either a white, black or maroon polo neck and black trousers/skirt.



    I was distracted at college by boys...I was the only girl in physics...big mistake. I ended up dropping out of college after a few months when I got too far behind. But after 2 months of working in the sausage factory and then as an editorial assistant, I decided to go back to college the following year and avoided the (male) temptation.
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    Thanks Minni for the dietary posts.



    Its amazing what they are recommending to eat. Im guessing this is for the average sized male (70kg) as that is what everything is normally advised around. Cant believe that you could eat a jacket potato and beans as a snack and not as a main meal!!



    My mum and I went to pizza express today. We were going to have salad, but then when we read the description of their new calzone, we opted for that instead...im still stuffed despite eating it more than 7 hours ago. Having sunday diner for our evening meal aswell....im going to be rolling around VLM if I carry on at this rate!



    What do you think to carbo depleting first? Ive read mixed thoughts about it. I myself dont really see the logic behind it so im just going to carbo load for 2 days prior to the race and hope for the best. I was worried about sleeping the night before VLM, but going on how I feel at the moment, I may just go into a food induced coma!
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    Training Diary for Forum 6 sub 3:30 (VLM)



    Week 15 (day 103) aim; rest day



    I've had a complete day of rest from running today, instead I spent the morning walking around town with my mum followed by a pig out at Pizza express. I then walked to the lane and watched sheffield united with my dad. It was the best I had seen them play all season and the atmosphere was like it use to be pre Wilson. We won 2-0 which rounded of my day quite nicely.



    When ever I walk up the steps at the lane my legs always seem to feel heavy, however today they felt great..this tapering is working and im feeling quite positive today. Im actually looking forward to VLM and especially seeing what time I will get.
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    Hi Sarah, afraid there's not much to do in London that doesn't keep u on ur feet all day- if ur not too worried about that, I would recommend the museums in Kensington - science, natural history and Victoria and Albert- when I was little we used to get a season ticket for them and have regular trips upto see them but sometime during the labour government they became free!!! I think the natural history one is the best, but that might be because I'm a geographer...



    Otherwise most things are quite pricey- what genre of 'things to do' are u interested in?

    I didn't actually eat any cake or sugar- some amazing cakes on show though- I'll email u pictures! image. I'll be making my cake for the wedding but I already picked the design and its a bit early to buy te edible materials coz they'll go out of date... My sister bought loads of stuff though.



    I had a big portion of sweet potato on Thursday night and. I swear that put me in a coma- a food we eat in Nigeria- amala, made from puna yam has the same effect- very good for inducing an afternoon siesta



    I can't believe u dropped out of colleg and now ur a doctor! Talk about the hard way of getting there! image
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    Good luck in the morning angela.



    How did your run go today Malcs?



    Good luck to everyone who has their last longish run tomorrow
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    X post angela!



    Thankyou angela. I went to the natural history and science museums about 5 years ago and really enjoyed them, spent all day in them and was almost booted out at closing time.



    Thats exciting that your making your own cake, im very impressed. I love baking but dont have the time, or a large enough kitchen at the moment...but when I move I will!



    Mainly in to sport, science and history, thought about looking round cutty sarc though...is that any good?



    I might have to try amala if it works that well, could do with something for the next few nights!



    I think dropping out of college (after getting in with the wrong crowd and going of the rails as my parents like to describe it) did me a favour. By working in rubbish jobs for 10 months it made me realise how much I needed a good degree to get a good job.
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    Hiya Sarah- can u tell I'm sitting in my hotel room having watched the voice with nothing else to do...just sent the cake pictures image



    I've not been to the cutty sark, so couldn't say, but that area o London has lots of nice places- when I did London I was still living in SE London so would regularly run around there and think how nice it was- I must go back and explore though never did.

    There's a cable car they put up for the Olympics by emirates airline- might be worth a ride? Though its part of the transport network. The south bank is a nice place to hang out, and there u have the London eye and the aquarium. Baker st if ur into Sherlock Holmes and there is Madame Tussaud's and the planetarium- personally MT is expensive for wax figures but it is quite impressive and u can take some fun pictures - if u like places like Alton towers as well it might be worth u getting a season ticket as u can visit Madame Tussaud's on that as well as the London eye.



    Again LONDON eye I find dull and think I get a better view from the 33rd floor of the gherkin, -u could pay ??25 I think to go to the top of te shard- we had a work party in there befor Christmas and the view was INCREDIBLE



    If its sunny, everywhere in London is nice.. If not, stick with museums and galleries image
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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭

    Definitely food for thought there Minni;  I think I could apply the theory but not the specifics of the actual meals.  I'm planning on taking Thursday & Friday off, so I'll be able to prepare some good meals. 

    We have to attend a wedding reception on Friday night, it would have been a cracking do too but we'll be leavinga bout 10 pm.

    Coincidentally we will eat at  Pizza Express the night before the race Sarah, I won't have the Calzone, but   I find their portions a bit small on the lasagne and pasta.

    I loved the V&A when we went, I'd always thought it was a bit Guardian reader but the jewellery took my breath away.

    I also like the National Portrait Gallery just off Trafalgar Square round the corner from the National Gallery.  You can lose yourself in there for hours.  It's got a cafe that looks out over Trafalgar Square if you fancy a sit down!

    Tomorrow is supposed to be 12.  I got a new gel belt today, so I'll load it up but I won't use any. If it's warm enough I'll do a full dress rehearsal. that'll give the neighboursa laugh!

    My legs are OK, I walked back to the car, Delamere Forest has some stiff climbs and I didn't want to overdo it..  I overheard a mountain biker behind me come round the corner and mutter "for ****'s sake!" when he saw the hill then he got off and started pushing, he was a big lad, it made me laugh.

     

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    MalcsMalcs ✭✭✭

    Sarah - If you say you like science and history then I'd have to agree with the others' suggestion of the museums. Natural History and Science museums are right next to each other. Only issue might be that they get quite busy and could be busier on marathon weekend but then again everything will be.

    We were in Greenwich a week ago and had a great time. There's the Observatory, Maritime museum and Cutty Sark. They have done it up nicely after the fire. Not been in though. You can also walk under the Thames if you're into tunnels image

    Tower of London was quite good - plenty to see. We booked in advance and got there early so we didn't have to queue long to see the Crown Jewels.

    You can also go up Tower Bridge - been years since I did that last.

    If you just like the sights there's nothing like hopping on and off busses. Mrs Malcs has also recommended the museum of London in Barbican and the Tate Modern if you like staring at piles of bricks and the like. 

    Had a great run today thanks. 9 miles at about 8:40 pace. I feel I'm about ready now. I was a bit over aggressive with my tennis ball when I got back though and may have irritated my foot. Not too worried though. Typical idiotic thing for me to do. We'll see how it is at the mini rugby tomorrow.

    Mr P - are you running in fancy dress? Did I completely miss the Stay Puff Marshmallow Man reference?

    There were quite a few obvious VLM runners out in their full kit today. Sent a shiver down my spine thinking about it.

    Minni - wow, interesting stuff. I don't think I'll be organised enough to to anything like that. Like Sarah I just plan to eat shed loads for two days before.

    Best of luck to all of you running tomorrow!

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    Mr PuffyMr Puffy ✭✭✭

    No Malcs, I can make people laugh just by donning a vest and shortsand a Batman style gel belt.

    I came in one cold January night in my Ron Hills and took off my top and Mrs P said I looked like stavros Flatley from Britain's got Talent.

    I forgot about the observatory, after reading davina Sobel's book about Longitude seeing Thomas Harrison's clocks was very moving.

    Greenwich Market was good fun, like a mini Covent Garden; in fact Covent Garden itself is always interesting.

    Perhaps we should rope Angela in as guide and go on a tour together!

     

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    Aww Mr P I would love to do a day of London sightseeing but stupidly I booked a week away and won't be in England next weekend/ kicking myself because I love watching the marathon and have quite a few friends doing it image



    If I were guiding u, I'd take u off the beaten track- near where I use to live- Broadway Market is a good one- quality food like borough market but I could do my weekly shop there without breaking the bankimage, then get on a bike and saunter along the regents canal until Victoria park for a picnic with ur recently purchased food... Hop back on the bikes and head further east toward limehouse docks, into the docklands.... Cross over toward rotherithe and explore the start of ur race route backwards.... Hmm starting to think there is a way I could put that geography degree to good useimage
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    Sarah, sorry I didn't answr ur earlier question- as run director I'm in charge of safety of event- if it snows I have to decide whether to even put the event on at all- put out all the signs and give a briefing at the start- then after I have to upload all the times into the parkrun database. I'm sure once I've done it once it'll be ok- it'll be tough to be in that position where I'm unsure whether to let the race go ahead, but hopefully 27 th April wouldn't be one of those days.



    Bedtime for me- hopefully dreams of a successful race image
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    Good luck with the race today, Angela. Looking forward to hearing how it went and how you decided to pace it.
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    Hi Dotty! Thanks for the luck- turned out I had a night full of nightmares and barely any sleep image

    Learnt a LOT on this race:

    -how not to pace a race

    -never go to a race without Vaseline

    -if it's going to be hot, wear a visor or a cap

    -east London half marathon is incredibly poorly organised and not worth doing again



    Will do a full write up later... Managed to d it at an average of 9:29mm but that average covers a lot of sins- wow! It's a hot one image
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    Hi Angela. Thanks for the cake pictures. Some of them looked great - loved the madagascar one and the underground cake. The idea for your wedding cake is fantastic too, your certainly talented. Think if I made one it would be with a cake mix you can buy from the supermarket!!



    You have made so many good suggestions as has everyone else. I feel like I need to spend two weeks in London and do it all. The cable car sounds fab, as does all the other touresty things. Like you im not a huge fan of MT - think its over priced and dont really see the point. Im not that keen on the london eye either, went on it a few years ago and it wasnt really my thing (dont think it helps with me being scared of heights).



    I wouldnt mind going up the shared but its expensive for what it is. Think im going to write a big list of all the things to do and let everyone else choose!



    Race director sounds like a very responsible job. Sounds like you have to do everything aswell...good luck.



    Sorry to hear that your race didnt go quite to plan today...but on a good note its better for it to go wrong today and you learn from mistakes etc than it to happen on marathon day. Sounds like you kept a good pace overall.



    Cant wait for the race report
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    Afternoon Mr P....that was my thoughts when I saw the hills we had to run up on wednesday...together with a nervous laugh!



    How did your 12 go today? And the new belt? I did a dress rehearsal a few weeks ago, I found it quite exciting.



    I love covent gardens, if the weather is nice, there is such a lovely atmosphere there.



    What will you be having at pizza express?
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