PO - I'd also say don't do too much - "IMHO" the danger is you'll spend so much time looking forward to the next race, that you'll never really enjoy the current one. Choose one IM race - nail it - then sit back in a nice warm hot tub, drink champagne and have a nice long satisfied fart.
I'm not really sure what most people do and I am just plucking figures out of the air really but I would think 6-10hours a week would do it easily. the important thing is it needs to be consistent.
I reckoned on an average of 10hrs a week...some weeks you'll do more, some less...you could also get away with less, I'm sure...and if you can do more, then...I guess you'll do better....
You are at a huge advantage already cos you can swim
You might also (sssshhhh... don't tell anyone I said this) enjoy doing another oly or middle race this year - it'll give you something to train for this year, rather than next.
I was talking to a forum friend last night on the mobile - and his wife let out a huge ripper as he walked into the living room that even I heard......'twas very funny although she was a tad embarrassed 'cos she didn't realise he was on the phone...
no names sorry - I'm protecting her innocence here......
Pick one race and nail it, you can enjoy supporting at the other.
As for training a year is a long time, you dont need to do mega training. Consistancy is the key, 6-8 hours a week for 6 months will give you a good base. This will increase to 8-10 hours, as you start doing longer distance rides and runs then perhaps 10-12 hours in the 3 months preceeding the race as you start on the long rides.
If you're someone who benefits from having a plan to work from id suggest you look at a 13/18 week half ironman plan commencing mid July and vary it as required to pick up on key sessions in preparation for Vitruvian. Once youre at the end of the half ironman plan take a step back for a few weeks and chill out then commence on a 13-18 week Ironman plan.
Melli - didn't quite understand your post above but think I ought to check as the words 'cutoff' and 'woman' attracted my attention! ('old' wasn't in there but is also something that's on my mind!) Do you mean that women elites are about an hour slower than men elites, but that back-of-the pack women are 1.5 to 2 hours slower than back-of-the-pack men (of the same level of fitness or unfitess)? Until I read that I was thinking that with enough training (10 hours pw would be OK) cutoffs would probably be doable, now wibbling has recommenced.
Any good formulae/rules of thumb for estimating IM times based on individual components or shorter tris - a sort of McMillan calculator for IM?
I think Meli was saying for any given fitness that women would be slower than men, its certainly about 30 minutes differences for the pro, im not sure it would be as much as 1.5-2 hours at the back, maybe an hour at most?
Its also worth bearing in mind that during all of my ironman races ive spend at least 40 minutes not moving standing around around corners having a crafty fag so perhaps my finish times are actually quite similar to a woman of similar fitness?
best estimate is to do a 1/2IM, double that time and add 2 hrs on top for an IM time.........it's very likley you'll be closer to 1 hr on top but it's a reasonable stab to allow for issues that may develop
Jaggy, you can do what you want to do, its all relative but multiple events in a year has an impact on training and performance/motivation at subsequent events.
Last year I felt really strong all the way round the Lanza bike course, but really struggled at Austria (3 months later), but was very strong round Florida bike course (quite surprising given I pretty much stopped training after Lanza)
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I would start now Melli. But I think I lose alot of base fitness in the past couple months with being ill, so I have a bit of an uphill slog.
I would have to train harder than most people I think - taking this year into consideration.
Gulp
They don't do one year training plans do they?
Yeh you're right Hollywood. Especially about the nice long satsfied fart. On my own of course
I'm not really sure what most people do and I am just plucking figures out of the air really but I would think 6-10hours a week would do it easily. the important thing is it needs to be consistent.
Yeh I was told that recently as well Melli - the consistent bit.
Can only do my best eh?
Plods - Just get yourself well and enjoy the summer. Base training in autumn and winter - then go for it.
*Wonders*.............. Is it too late to put a relay team in for the big woody?
You are at a huge advantage already cos you can swim
You might also (sssshhhh... don't tell anyone I said this) enjoy doing another oly or middle race this year - it'll give you something to train for this year, rather than next.
I was talking to a forum friend last night on the mobile - and his wife let out a huge ripper as he walked into the living room that even I heard......'twas very funny although she was a tad embarrassed 'cos she didn't realise he was on the phone...
no names sorry - I'm protecting her innocence here......
Or you could always come along to Abingdon mara this year? I'm sure there'll be a few pirates there.
Hollywood - I am doing Vit, Luton mara in December and another half IM when I go home in Jan.
So have some biggish ones to look forward to, then will add in some sprints and oly's for the fun of it I reckon.
Gyraffe - I am getting myself well snappyish for Vit in September.
I need to get back into training. I miss it.
I'm resting too - not allowed to train until July as part of a deal I made with the OH........... *climbs walls*
the odd swim or run is ok from next week - but I'm now on my deferred post flm break
I agree with Hollywood and Meli
Pick one race and nail it, you can enjoy supporting at the other.
As for training a year is a long time, you dont need to do mega training. Consistancy is the key, 6-8 hours a week for 6 months will give you a good base. This will increase to 8-10 hours, as you start doing longer distance rides and runs then perhaps 10-12 hours in the 3 months preceeding the race as you start on the long rides.
If you're someone who benefits from having a plan to work from id suggest you look at a 13/18 week half ironman plan commencing mid July and vary it as required to pick up on key sessions in preparation for Vitruvian. Once youre at the end of the half ironman plan take a step back for a few weeks and chill out then commence on a 13-18 week Ironman plan.
Luton mara? Perfect prep for Lanza
Melli - didn't quite understand your post above but think I ought to check as the words 'cutoff' and 'woman' attracted my attention! ('old' wasn't in there but is also something that's on my mind!) Do you mean that women elites are about an hour slower than men elites, but that back-of-the pack women are 1.5 to 2 hours slower than back-of-the-pack men (of the same level of fitness or unfitess)? Until I read that I was thinking that with enough training (10 hours pw would be OK) cutoffs would probably be doable, now wibbling has recommenced.
Any good formulae/rules of thumb for estimating IM times based on individual components or shorter tris - a sort of McMillan calculator for IM?
Do you reckon I could do this after doing IMNZ or should I leave it a year and aim to support instead?
I'm an old fat bloke remember in drawing any conclusion!
I think Meli was saying for any given fitness that women would be slower than men, its certainly about 30 minutes differences for the pro, im not sure it would be as much as 1.5-2 hours at the back, maybe an hour at most?
Its also worth bearing in mind that during all of my ironman races ive spend at least 40 minutes not moving standing around around corners having a crafty fag so perhaps my finish times are actually quite similar to a woman of similar fitness?
best estimate is to do a 1/2IM, double that time and add 2 hrs on top for an IM time.........it's very likley you'll be closer to 1 hr on top but it's a reasonable stab to allow for issues that may develop
or an Oly x 5
Jaggy, you can do what you want to do, its all relative but multiple events in a year has an impact on training and performance/motivation at subsequent events.
Last year I felt really strong all the way round the Lanza bike course, but really struggled at Austria (3 months later), but was very strong round Florida bike course (quite surprising given I pretty much stopped training after Lanza)