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My 16 year old son alerted me to this...
Surely it can never happen
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1833407,00.html
Surely it can never happen
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1833407,00.html
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Seems fair to me.
There was a pretty horrific murder round by ours a few years ago and eventually the police got round to asking all the blokes in the area for fingerprints. What was I going to do ? Refuse ? So this would save time in the long run, and surely save lives ?
Its a bit like all the fuss kicked up about ID cards and "big brother" Personally I have nothing to hide, and its not like tracing your movements by dusting everything you have ever touched would be sensible. I'm with you Cougie, the police have a large databade already, extending it would surely help...
The 'livecapture' technology for scanning them isn't very good though. It's had a lot of teething problems, and probably isn't good with resizing prints.
I would be very concerned about future 'mistaken identity' leading from childhood fingerprinting
I'd imagine that the childs prints would help - but if they called the adult in for questioning - surely they'd retake the prints to make sure they still matched and they hadn't been damaged in some bizarre industrial grinder incident ?
And lets do the DNA testing as well at an early stage. Wasnt there a rapist recently who was only caught when his sister was done for drunk driving and gave a DNA sample ? If she'd stayed clean - the guy wouldn't have been caught.
"1984" is here already and getting worse. No-one much cares though.
I am all for a libertarian revolution. Anyone fancy joining me ? We could start a list ....
Welsh Alex
SB, Maybe that argument was the one used in the pre WW2 census where all the Jews had their 'cards marked'.
Innocent until guilty ? We should be. There are dark forces at work in the western world, and the state is something to be feared. Mark my words.
We should be free, in the fullest sense.
Nevermind Earl, there there.
Wish it were actually.
If fingerprinting everyone from the age of 6, I think there would be much to fear, especially as it would probably be just another stepping stone on the way to even more restrictions on the liberty of the innocent.
It'll end up that we'll all be suspects until we can prove our innocence... you mark my words
Your fingerprints would clear you straight away though - if you are innocent.
Take my example of the lil old lady that was horrifically murdered in a house that I pass twice a day. It was a year before the police came to see me and I only live 5 mins away from there. I'd prob passed by whilst the killer was there - obviously I hadnt noticed anything - or I would have gone to the police. But if I was the killer - it would have been very easy to move away from the area. No prints would have been taken. I could have done the same thing again.
I cant see the problem here. Guilty have lots to fear. Innocent not.
Hang on - you weren't in on that Brinks Mat job were ya ?
We are all doomed, I'm off to live on an island.
Humph !
I still value my freedom
It seems we stand alone guys.... come the revolution....
I really cant see the problem still. Every day you leave a trail of information around. Your credit card bills. Where your mobile has been. Your conversations and messages on the mobile and land lines. Where you drive your car. Where you use your oyster card. What you buy at the shops. How many CCTV cameras you appear on. What you look at on the internet.
Shall we ditch all of that stuff so that nobodys civil liberties are infringed ? And let paedophiles browse happily and unimpeded ?
Again - what is there to fear if someone has your prints on record ?
You were guilty if you were Jewish in Nazi Germany.
All this personal data the goverment is collecting about it's citizens is ok... becuase we've got the nice fluffy Labour party running our lives at the moment...
But what if 20, 30, 100 years down the line we revert to a police state?
I wouldn't want some neo Nazi state having that sort of info on me
I don't think the nazis needed a huge database to round up jews did they ? They managed pretty well without it.
Don't rule out this type of finger printing evolving into ID cards through function creap.
>>really cant see the problem still. Every day you leave a trail of information around. Your credit card bills. Where your mobile has been. Your conversations and messages on the mobile and land lines. Where you drive your car. Where you use your oyster card. What you buy at the shops. How many CCTV cameras you appear on. What you look at on the internet.
I can control those myself.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/5233262.stm
Antisocial little sods!
We'll actually, they did, it was one of the first things they implimented when they took over a country, they collected data from all citizens, including fingerprints to racially catagorise all citizens
Goverment should be small serve the needs of ther people and not the other way around and I ain't going to make it easier for them by meekly surrendering my last vestiges of civil liberty to any government...
Freedom carries risks, but I prefer it to the creeping loss of liberties that we are suffering under the nanny state.
There is too much knee-jerk reaction to events that means that things become worse and not better.