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A skinful of beer a week before a marathon...

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    on the HR thing I have a good comparison for that...

    I had to go and get an ECG in 2004 - i was recorded with a resting HR of 43, and was quizzed about it (as a low heart rate can apparantly be a problem in some cases as opposed to just being a side effect of being reasonably fit).


    In 2005 I had to go back for another (in a similar state of fitness) however the night previous I had a really heavy night and was at my local GP's feeling like dirt. On the ECG my resting Heart rate was 59 which the doc proudly proclaimed was far more normal :-)


    So it definately effects heart rate - but for more than a morning or one day? No way.
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    most times though it's not alcohol per se that causes the increase in heart rate, but dehydration secondary to its diuretic effect.

    a couple of pints of diarolyte before bed should do the trick, unless you're stupid enough to try hooking yourself up to a saline drip. my flat-mate once tried to do this while wasted and managed to stick his radial nerve, the idiot.
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    someone told me an apparantly true story about a shared house of medical students where they used to plug themselves into a drip when hungover.

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    Ooh, so much to go at here.

    Ph - I believe it was down to 91%. I have had it down as low as 68%, which would normally be enough to cause panic, but I was at about 4500m altitude so 68%, in the words of the nice American doctor who did the measurement "makes you a rock star".

    Simon, couldn't agree more. If I was just a spring marathon runner I could manage the tee-total start to the year quite happily, but I have more marathons in May, October and possibly November if I can talk anyone into a trip to Greece. Have to draw the line somewhere.

    I used to live in a shared house of medical students, and I've heard the tales, but it was thankfully never attempted by anyone I knew.
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    The medical students plugging themselves into drips thing isn't an urban myth but, as ergophobic points out, trying to site a drip cannula when you're seeing everything in quadruplicate and it's whirling round is not straightforward.
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    why drink to excess anyway? seems a bit daft to me.
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    Escapism, stress relief, fun, a break from being an exercise freak once in a while...

    Well. those are the reasons I can think of. I'll indulge around once a month normally and sink 6-8 pints. This will make me loud, giggly, somtimes a bit silly but can still walk/talk and have a fair idea of what's going on around me, and be ok to run about 6 miles the following day to get rid of it from the system...
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    re the medic and drip thing-er, get a sober friend to help with the cannulation

    but of course I never got that bad;)
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    wonder why we seem to be one of the few countries that finds relief in binge drinking. I'm sorry, but I find one or two pints of Guinness enjoyable. Drinking for the sake of getting down as many as you can still seems a bit off the wall.
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    But hippo - careful who you ask.
    Repeating 'I don't do medicine. I've never stuck a needle in anyone. I'm dyspraxic. That would be a really, really stupid idea.' when staying with a friend & houseful of medics is bad enough. Being the only sober person in sight at a MEDSIN conference is scary at times.
    (heard army medics use this a lot too).
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    It won't really matter if you don't care how you perform in the Marathon or if you're just one of them 'fun' runners!

    I never understood why people had to get drunk to have a good time. Maybe it's a personality thing!

    Have fun though you drunkard!
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    hi Hippo
    Yes i did a marathon after the 2004 London. I ran the 2006 london marathon. This time i did improve my time by half an hour and i managed not to get plastered 3 days before it. This time i got plastered 9 days before it and i didn't smoke the night before. So it was a moderate improvement. The bottomline for me is that i took up running in 2003 wanting to move away from the alcohol and smoking binge lifestyle that was my life. I have not fully succeeded and am frustrated with the lack of progress i am making in my running. And when i read of 47 year olds having heart attacks it makes me think i am setting myself up as a prime candidate.
    Or am i just a hyochondriac?
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    I drank lots of wine last night by accident and right now I feel awful. Should I do my planned 9 miles today or skip it?
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    This is not medical advice

    but i reckon a run will make you feel better
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    Hi Jonathan

    Lose the smoking and dont stop running
    yes your lifestyle isnt ideal-but at least you are running
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    Thanks Hippo
    Good advice. I'm gonna quit the fags and up the running. I love a few pints but nothing beats the high after a good run. anyway i am in training for the Richmond half marathon in 6 weeks. Can't wait. Just wish i could get the weight down. Been stuck on 96kgs for years! Should be about 85kgs.
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    OK will do it. But a bit later when my head's stopped swimming...
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    good on you deirdre

    you too Jonathan
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    Hey Hippo
    One final question. Do you think having a protein shake after a run is a good idea to aid recovery or is it just a waste of money?
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    PhilPubPhilPub ✭✭✭
    I was thinking about 'binge drinking' the other day. I think it's important to distinguish between two very different situations:

    1. Drinking entirely for the sake of drinking, fully intending to get absolutely paralytic. Possibly having to down a few 'chasers' to make sure you get there.

    2. A social occasion which in all likelihood will involve you getting rather drunk, simply because you're in a drink-serving establishment for a long period of time with a group of people you'd like to be with.

    I think even in my headier student days, I never got drunk just for the sake of getting drunk (well, maybe...) but if I'm going out directly from work on a Friday evening and end up having a late night, there's a good chance I'll visit a few different pubs over the course of many hours, and quite possibly drink 10 pints, get drunk and wake up with a stinking hangover. I'll also socialise with two or three different groups of friends (getting just as drunk as me) in the process and thoroughly enjoy myself.
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    Real food would be just as good(tuna sarnie, for example)

    if you can take it in, which i cant

    Only any need for that sort of thing on a long run though

    some people take Slim Fast-it has quite a good protein ratio, and is cheapwer than your SIS products and so on
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    ok thanks for that. Might try the slim fast instead of the Promax that I was going to buy.
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