As a (probably sniffy) aside, I hate all these convos about which event was longer/harder, because it seems to undermine the achievement of those who have completed them - which ever way you look at it, long distance triathlons are hard work - and whether it is 3 miles short or 3 miles long on the day makes no difference, the same amount of blood, sweat and tears has gone into the training.
Those weight/performance calculator thingies show me to be half a stone heavier than the upper* 'ideal' weight for my height. I feel about a stone "too" heavy, but most of the undesirable is wrapped around my middle. Fortunately I have to stretch up to hug most people.
But I'm certainly faster now than when I was the ideal weight for someone of 6ft3. [giggle]
* if I went for the lower 'ideal' I would be flat-chested and gaunt. Nofanks.
not too be too rude Dave but WTF would you know?! Certainly if you lost weight I think it would be very likely to have a negative impact but either me or FB could lose weight during long distance training if we tried to do so in a sensible way, i.e., small consistent deficit, with no detrimental effect to our health.
Fair point.
I was thinking of the 'sensible way' part though - lots of folks start off on their new get fit regime trying to lose weight too quickly at the same time as increasing training volume, which as you point out isn't healthy. Not applicable to people who've been training for years and know what they're doing, like you & FB.
I'll admit I'm about as qualified to give dietary advice as I am to give swim coaching.
that's because you put value judgements on longer or harder. IMDE was longer than Roth - that's just a statement of fact. The Norseman run is harder than any IM run I have done - fact. It doesn't make the people completing them better/worse people.I don't feel undermined in anyway by the IMDE people having completed a longer bike course - why would I?
funkin, for example, is faster than me and i don't feel undermined by that either.
i don't think we do all put the same amount of effort in to the training. i'm pretty sure Chrissie works a hell of a lot harder than me. i still don't feel undermined.
whether you value you own achievements is an internal thing. there are always going to be people doing things longer, harder, faster and who are cleverer and better looking.
It's all relative Mel. and my hard training may be easy to you, as your hard training may be easy to Chrissie. I just think we should collectively celebrate our achievements.
Min - I agree - I just disagree with saying that discussing the relative length of courses makes any difference to that.
I have no doubt that Chrissie trains harder than me even accounting for a differences in fitness/ability. Clearly, she trains harder in absolute terms but I think she trains harder in relative terms too. Way harder. I expect I teach more statistics than her though
Yes, hence my clarification that I was correcting GOM's maths (though it turns out we were talking about different thngs so both our maths were correct) and not comparing distances. I couldn't give a flying wotsit about the difference in the two courses.
They're all hard.
And I think Barley was only bringing it up to say why he thought there was a possible difference in his times, apart from the obvious being that he was even more awesome at Roth than he was at IMDE.
Getting around to my race report. Figured I'd do it race style, ie sit on the sideline sulking for *way* too long then make a desperate dash as everyone else has finished and moved on
AH Thanks for posting the link to Chrissie's report. It was great to read and I'm jealous of all of you who received your medals from her. What an amazing person as well as an incredible athlete!
It's only been 3 or 4 days since I've been on the forum and my eyes are now sore from catching up on the last few days. Great reports from everyone. Still wating on the slackers - HH, Kanga, come on, you know you want to.
OMG - have just received yet another Roth medal. When they sent the first replacement I was a good polite girl and emailed to say thank you etc. I gave the original relay one to Jack - what am I going to do with this one? Think I should send it back. Not a lot of point in having two, is there? Is there anyone else who didn't get the right one or something who I could send it to?
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As a (probably sniffy) aside, I hate all these convos about which event was longer/harder, because it seems to undermine the achievement of those who have completed them - which ever way you look at it, long distance triathlons are hard work - and whether it is 3 miles short or 3 miles long on the day makes no difference, the same amount of blood, sweat and tears has gone into the training.
But I'm certainly faster now than when I was the ideal weight for someone of 6ft3. [giggle]
* if I went for the lower 'ideal' I would be flat-chested and gaunt. Nofanks.
Fair point.
I was thinking of the 'sensible way' part though - lots of folks start off on their new get fit regime trying to lose weight too quickly at the same time as increasing training volume, which as you point out isn't healthy. Not applicable to people who've been training for years and know what they're doing, like you & FB.
I'll admit I'm about as qualified to give dietary advice as I am to give swim coaching.
Yes thanks, ta. Mucho appreciated.
"Convo". Never heard that one. I need to listen to my kids more.
It's a North Walian thing CD - we stick an 'o' on things; convo, deffo, avo...
(conversation, definitely, afternoon)
that's because you put value judgements on longer or harder. IMDE was longer than Roth - that's just a statement of fact. The Norseman run is harder than any IM run I have done - fact. It doesn't make the people completing them better/worse people.I don't feel undermined in anyway by the IMDE people having completed a longer bike course - why would I?
funkin, for example, is faster than me and i don't feel undermined by that either.
i don't think we do all put the same amount of effort in to the training. i'm pretty sure Chrissie works a hell of a lot harder than me. i still don't feel undermined.
whether you value you own achievements is an internal thing. there are always going to be people doing things longer, harder, faster and who are cleverer and better looking.
Min - I agree - I just disagree with saying that discussing the relative length of courses makes any difference to that.
I have no doubt that Chrissie trains harder than me even accounting for a differences in fitness/ability. Clearly, she trains harder in absolute terms but I think she trains harder in relative terms too. Way harder. I expect I teach more statistics than her though
Yes, hence my clarification that I was correcting GOM's maths (though it turns out we were talking about different thngs so both our maths were correct) and not comparing distances. I couldn't give a flying wotsit about the difference in the two courses.
They're all hard.
And I think Barley was only bringing it up to say why he thought there was a possible difference in his times, apart from the obvious being that he was even more awesome at Roth than he was at IMDE.
*faints*
Im thinking on the lines of I came, I saw, I conquered
Bitter ? me ? feck no ....
AH Thanks for posting the link to Chrissie's report. It was great to read and I'm jealous of all of you who received your medals from her. What an amazing person as well as an incredible athlete!
It's only been 3 or 4 days since I've been on the forum and my eyes are now sore from catching up on the last few days. Great reports from everyone. Still wating on the slackers - HH, Kanga, come on, you know you want to.