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Good session there Jools, likewise HM, very promising! TR - The Aussies don't mind it - the thing is they enjoy the club scene here, which they don't have as much over there. SW - That is good for a smaller club in that league. There's 8 in ours, the core is Kent, Hercules, South London, Thames H&H, Belgrave and us. The other clubs like Clapham Chasers, Dulwich, etc tend to yoyo a bit
The weather is a bit silly now - very wet this morning, just drying my clothes out on the radiator, a manhole cover had just popped up the road.
Did 8 x 1k on the regents Pk Broadwalk, with 90 secs recovery. Luckily the wind was bowing me back up the 2nd 500, so wasn't too bad. 3.19 for the first, then 3.15 and mainly around 3.13 with a 3.09 for the last one. I think it is properly 1k now., but need to check.
Joe Blogs-BR said:
Christ - It's impossible to go AWOL for a couple of days, scrabbling to catch up big time.Muddy - mega run at the the Brass, and like SG you took down my PB by 1 second.. 2 seconds?👼
Joe - the new Andy Maud eh? We have the same problem - our first was 25th and I was last in 52nd. Very good packing, but top end quality not there sadly. We are targeting the southern road relays though, looking promising.
TR - Yes they do! BUS - Good to stick the session out and get a reward.
Luton tonight around the golf club paths. First session for the £9.99 specials. Will report back.
The extreme engineering of the Vaporflys finally got them banned at elite level then...as long as Muddy, Joe, Wool etc, you asterisk all your pbs gained with them
Not like back in me and Bus's days, ours were all earnt in clogs. Clogs I tells ye
Muds, you gotta sex up the mundanity son.
Look forward to my own bed tonight after two days away with work, and a footy trip slipped in too.
The 3hours 15 to Nottingham was long enough on Tue in rain and wind in a way too flash hire car, but the absolute peak of knackeration came taking 1hour to get the last 3miles to my hotel junction last night... 1 hour..for 3miles! 11pm became 12pm.
A classic "Let's do this 4 lane into 1 late in the evening as barely anyone will be travelling then" type sod's law.
The club committee have come up with a "rota" for doing the jibber jabber for 10mins pre session, instead of the old way of the chairman always doing it.
Fine..for locals - who go!
Utter ballache for me - 35-40mins away, never go!
Finish work at 5pm, hang about for 2hours 30 just to do 10min of chat!?
Not really a goer is it?
I'll do the proper meetings, which originally I wasn't - joint men's cap mate was going to do those, living 2miles away...but 10mins of welcomes?!
Obvs I'm keeping my mile pb though, gained in said aforementioned shoes.
And I think you're definitely skirting middle aged when the absolute key first question, is "what's the parking like". Never used to give it a second of thought!
Glad to see a 6miler came out decently today, post drive, post 2nights of fish n chips!
Joe - i'll be so glad to give this hire car back - super nifty with all the extras, but played havoc with my nerves every time I left it!
I think these Nottingham trips will be a feature of my the new team I'm joining in Feb, but generally not with the Manchester extra night bolt on after.
Could be a bit of dotting about around on top of that, but I think we all know I'll find a way to keep training like usual.
Joe Blogs-BR said:
Simon - remains to be seen but looks hopeful. Will be too late for this season, we've struggled to get our best runners turning out as they've focused on other things. I definitely won't be bailing out of the Southerns though!
Presuming I'm reading this right - I will see you (and SC) there.
We qualified in 2017, snow called off 2018, and 2019 was a bit of a mix and match job, so we were miles off qualifying.
However, I'm jointly picking the 2020 team, so you can imagine the chivvying up going on - it'll be a selection job this year.
We'll also be sending a women's team to a major relay for the first time in my Dasher days, as I refused to accept the "all our fast women run marathons" baloney as an excuse...actually asked loads..in good time, and almost instantly we have the outline of a team - it's only 6 needed for friggery's sake!
So as long as I actually get in our own team (!), any missing out on the top 25 this year will be down us to not having enough quality in the club, rather than not having enough of our best runners there!
Nice sessions there folks, Jules Muddy and Bus.
Happy to say the Kalenji were fine - A windy 8 x 800 session, 4 one way and 4 the other way round the square, roughly 2.33's I would say. Very light, decent grip. Quads felt it a little as it's a fairly hard ride, it's just a basic EVA sole so that's to be expected. But now the cushioned ones are nearly a tenner too.
Got them on again today, going to do some short bits at lunchtime, as I'm off to the relegation party tomorrow - Norwich v Bournemouth, so a welcome day of leisure!
Joe - Yes I did think you might mean the southerns. Just ordered some 15mm spikes! Decent session SG.
I also lived in Nottm - 96-98 before I went for a year to Pompey Uni. Mainly worked at the UPS call centre and got pissed with my mate from Uni. Did odd bits of running, and the Robin Hood half - in 1.39 I think.
Just been on the annoyingly busy canal to do 20 x 35 sec reps, off 30. Was a lot easier when it was a dump and a bit rougher. Now it's posh student penthouses for the offspring of Beijing businessmen & women...as far as I can tell!
Decent mileage Bus, only slightly under mine this week, in a work/footy reduced week.
I'm always slightly bemused when people tell me how much better offroad is for your body. I always feel way more ruined with offroad. You can't beat nice smooth road!
15 today then, for a 55.5mile week.
2 weeks ago I did a fairly flat 15, out towards Marlow and back for 6.59 pace.
I fancied the hilly route this time, up tom Beaconsfield, up and downs Penn and Hazlemere, before the huge descent late on, before a flat end.
Did it about 3 weeks ago in what felt like a sprightly 7.11
Today ended up 6.59 pace!
A 7.06 and 7.00 first 2miles set the tone, and just went from there really, slowest mile only 7.20, and the last 4-5miles nicely under 7, obvs the 300foot descent in mile 13 got a mid 6 fairly comfortably, but the last 2 miles flowed too.
That's 3 x 15 so far this little block, one 13 as well a borderline illness reduced one..
I'll put a few more 15s in, potentially aiming to end with a few faster miles in the future.
I wondered if my smaller week than standard, and 1 sesh instead of 2, made me fresher, but in fairness, it probably didn't, as long drives don't help that. And also, I ran a 6miler yesterday, instead of my usual SAT OFF.
When we've mentioned the optical wrist HR before on here, I think there's been near total agreement that they are totally unrealistic. Even if you have it on super tight, and conditions are dry, it's still not great. A nice idea though.
I was tracking mid 180s by the end of mine for instance, which I'd imagine would be feeling a little harder!
I think someone suggested they sync in more with your cadence, which makes sense of why they gravitate to big numbers!
To be honest, HR, or numbers, both have pros and cons. And add in offroad and it gets even more awks to work out!
If I took 6.10 as the old Moz zone of theoretical MP, that's 370seconds, so 74 extra to become the 20% = 7.24, and 6.47 for the 10%.
Sounds more a steady sort of run than a hard workout at the miles i'd be using it for in fairness.
I'm sure over 20 miles with half at MP & 10% it becomes much more of a workout!
Moraghan gave me a monster session back in the day, of 8miles easy to steady, 3miles MP, 3miles HMP
The last 3miles I remember averaging 5.57, and then about 8 days later I ran a 5.57 average half marathon.
I remember that as being the peak of realising the science behind the zones.