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because when I asked where in the rules it was I was told:
Disqualifying average people for wearing IPod is harsh and is undemocratic. Average citizens should refuse to support the race in the future.
Fair if it is elite competitors competing for prize money and titles.
We live under a democracy, not a Communist dictatorship. Silly competition rules should not be universally applied to average citizens who pay a premium to run a fun run on roads our taxes have paid towards.
Piffle.
Who are these 'average' citizens ?
Good use of the word 'piffle' there Scream, I've not heard it used for a while
If that means iPod wearers boycotting races in future then yes please, go right ahead. I SAID, IF THAT MEANS IPOD WEARERS ... oh never mind.
Average citizens that have never heard of such silly rules and use headphones on their tread mill and weekend runs. Listening to music helps a lot of people to stay motivated during exercise whether it be cycling, walking, running or gym work out.
What if average citizen does not know? Can they get a refund back for unfair treatment?
Shout louder Muttley, Citizen Smith is based in Tooting.
As the iPod rules are written down in black and white on the entry forms.
"Average citizens should refuse to support the race in the future". That's about the only thing you have said that's not piffle. If these average bods don't want to follow the rules then they don't have to enter the races. And that will certainly please us unaverage citizens as we wont have to listen to the average citizens moaning that they cant wear there electronic devices.
When someone claims to speak on behalf of "average citizens" or "the vast majority of us" or "all right-thinking people" etc etc, what he really means is himself.
Is there an equivalent of Godwins Law for calling those who disagree communists rather than nazis?
I had my ipod on for the Great North Run on 2007, was jogging along nicely when suddenly got a shock from ambulance I hadn’t heard till the last minute, tripped over the central reservation, twisted my knee and DNF'd never worn one running outdoors since.
I do still wear it on the treadmill though!
For me if it's in the rules and you don't like it don't enter
I am finding it strange that I'm agreeing with a Nick Windsor post! But this is pretty much spot on.
What runners do in their own time at their own risk is up to them. If a race director says that headphones are banned, runners should deal with it.
Ultimately, Race Directors are liable for the safety of runners in their events and in the event of an accident they are responsible morally AND legally. In extreme cases this could warrant criminal proceedings I would assume.
If you decide to go running in the dark with no lights on, no hi-vis and listening to music its only yourself that is responsible and that is the difference between "Joe Average" and someone participating in an organised race.
most average citizens seem perfectly aware of the rule going by the number of them that post on here asking if it is ok just to ignore it.
personally I think if they are going to have the rule then they should enforce it.
the average citizen does not enter road races.
Power to the People.
There is NOT currently (nor has there been) a UKA rule banning head/earphones. I had this response from UKA when I queried it last year:
"More misleading information I’m afraid. The rule has been proposed on a number of occasions in the past but has always been rejected – mainly on the grounds of the difficulty of enforcement and the different circumstances that can apply across the range of courses that are encountered."
Race Directors can choose to ban them, and I do wish those that do would actually enforce it. There's no point otherwise.
Oh dear, I'm with mattywarr. I find myself also agreeing with Nick and not just on this thread either! I must *man up*
I love the "listening to music helps a lot of people to stay motivated" line.
However I do find myself tumbling into agreement with Nick, Matty & Cinders...
UKA surprise me again (not), failing to implement the ipod rule under the guise of "difficulty of enforcement" yet see fit to introduce the "no number swapping" rule as at April 1st. I would think that also equally difficult to enforce.
Nick - I also agree with you!
Off topic, but did you see that marvellous proposal of making running a punishment for kids that misbehave in school. Bonkers.