What: recovery run of as yet undecided length. Why: easy recovery.....nice last hard: NYD last rest: Friday last cheesy pasta: 3 days....and not tonight either (Indian) ..cold turkey alert!
careful perce - I am getting a bit worried about this non cheese bias that appears to be creeping in to your posts. I would advise you put tuesday aside as a pure cheesey pasta day.
Gym for me today for the same reasons as Friday - can't get any time in the light, dangerous running around unlit country lanes, get bored running around same route in nearby village which has street lighting.
Mike - You sounded disappointed with your time yesterday which was a pb! Well done!
I am actually pretty pleased to now have a PB which better reflects the sort of time I should be doing at this distance.
On the other hand, having trumpeted for so long on these Training threads about how I was targetting 84 minutes and actually hoped to do even better, there is a sense of failure. Especially when I think back over little things in the race that might have made a difference and got me over the line in under 84.
So, as I said yesterday - mixed feelings.
At some stage, I'll probably want to have another go at improving that PB further. Need to have a think about what I could do trainingwise to achieve it - and whether any such changes would be practical/feasible for the time I have available.
Monday seems to be the cross-training/recovery/rest day. I'm joining the trend - new exercise class today; last hard session was [muddy] hills yesterday.
How can you guys run, particularly race, wearing heart rate monitors??? It's the last thing I'd want to know.
Haven't had a chance to catch up with the weekend's postings yet, but looks like some top results as always.
What: Rest. Why: Scheduled, and legs aching after yesterday's LSD 12 mile run. After careful consideration have decided to drop down to Hal Higdon's Novice schedule for the weekly mileage, but to carry on with the long run build-up as per Intermediate 1. At this point my legs can't handle both increased mileage and an extra day of running a week, and I'd rather get to the start line uninjured and not make my 4-hour target than have to miss the FLM altogether through injury. Still seem to be running long runs too fast (9-min/mile for yesterday's 12 miler, which for a 4-hour marathon would be faster than race pace!) - may have to start using HRM again to try to slow myself down. The pace is causing too much stress on my legs. My shoes don't seem to be helping - it may be my imagination but the new Nike Kantara II seems to be less well-cushioned than its predecessor. My old shoes felt like I was running on air: with the new ones, I'm only too aware that I'm running on concrete! Last hard: Most definitely yesterday! Last rest: Saturday.
Afternoon all - some good performances over the weekend - fantastic conditions yesterday for the Sunday racers.
What: Saturday - 2 hours of jog, shuffle, run, some easy strides, stretching and "lunge walking" - covered 8 to 10 miles, calf on RHS very sore towards the end. Sunday - calf on RHS too painful to run on so 2 1/2 hours on the mountain bike - lovely sunnny day but cold on the bike. Why: Still feeling my way back from injury. Last hard: 10 days. Last rest: 3 days.
Paid a visit last Thursday to the Valence School near Sevenoaks (a Club colleague has a son there). It's a residential school for 100 or so young people with a variety of disabilities and handicaps (one of only a few in the UK). A thriving little community - some of the bravest kids and most dedicated staff you could meet. There's a limit to how much State funding can provide for them - have resolved to try and recover quickly from my current injury ASAP and try and help raise some sponsorship this year.
Today I'm just doing my hand weights routine, and press-ups, sit-ups, etc.
It's my constructive 'rest' day.
We had a dusting of snow overnight, so it is a little easier to walk about without slipping so much. But it is still too cold for any melting to occur!!
Hi all, some great weekened results, congrats to everyone.
As a matter of interest Swerve, are you running in Asics? I read somewhere that they are narrow at the forefoot and when I ran my 1/2, my toes were quite badly damaged afterwards. Anyone else found this.
What: 2.5miles quick Why:trying to run as often as possible even when I don't really have time.
Met up with Stickless today....what an inspiration!
Patouka, I agree with you Stickless is an inspiration.
Great results from yesterday.
What: 15 miles on mixed terrain. My long run for the week. It was raining, can't remember ever being so wet after a training run. I now know my gillet is not completely waterproof.
Decided it was time I got back into the habit of joining in here. Might make sure I stick to my marathon plan too!
Have spent the last few weeks building from three sessions per week to a planned six sessions this week, not all running though. Current marathon plan is Mon Swim Tue Tempo Wed Steady (+ yoga possibly) Thu Speed Fri Gym (non running CV, weights & core stability) Sat Rest Sun LSD Never having exercised six days per week I shall be listening acutely to my bod for signs of protest.
What: gym (upper body weights, core stability) followed by swim Why: Seemed like a good idea to do both but probably wasn't; kn@ckered by the end. Next week I'll stick to swim only Last hard: Sunday - 13miles including 10k race. Last rest: Saturday
Patouka - no, Brooks. When I started I ran in the same size as my normal shoes and, unsurprisingly, lost a heap of toenails. I switched up a whole size and have mostly been fine. I was just wondering if I could stretch to another half size up to clear any remaining trouble (probably caused to some extent by the downhills yesterday).
If you're losing toenails when running downhill, it would sound to me like that's probably caused by your foot sliding forwards in the shoe. Instead of going up another size, tying the laces tighter, or changing the way they're threaded might help more.
My latest ever posting on the training thread I think! Started new job today so busy busy busy and havent got my work PC set up so no daytime "visits" to the forum possble (
What: Nothing Why: Always rest on Mondays Last hard: Sat Last rest: last Monday
Quite miraculously, my painful hip seems to have cleared up overnight! I could hardly climb up the stairs to bed last night, had to go one step at a time and had resigned myself to another training break and a no-show at the Romsey 5 on Sunday.
However, I woke up this morning without even a twinge and so far it seems to have held off ) Just hope things stay this way!!!
Firstly big congatulations to everyone racing yesterday to many for me to remember but a stunning performance from everyone!!!
Also great training from those not racing it has taken me ages to read through thread;-)
Still feeling delicate(tummy bug) but knew this morning could not miss a day of my schedule so did 5.5-6 mile run it went okay(still feeling sick) but it was certainly mind over matter;-)
NE Good news on your Hip
ALF: Always a little further Miles makes smiles. Progression
What: Very slow 3.3 miles Why: recovery run after yesterday.
Calves very tight, always more so in the Saucony I got recently (although they were great at first). Gonna give them a miss for a week, then try them again to see if it defo is them.
Slight change of plan - the cold a little better so....
5 1/2 miles recovery run (41.20) after yesterday's trek in the Beacons + last night's knackering LSD session. Weather mild tonight + lots (LOTS !) of randy frogs about !!
However, other lowlife too sadly. Its been a long, long, time since I've witnessed any nonsense whilst out running but 4 sources of "runrage" tonight (probably more in one night than I've ever witnessed).
Have to log "for the record". There's also far too much positive stuff, good karma etc on the training threads lately !!
1. 15 mins in to my jog tonight and another (much faster) runner, bizarly, ran straight into the back of me
Luckily missed my l.achiles/ankle. He was very apologetic and a bit embarrased but, it seems, was trying to overtake on the inside of a very narrow path. No attempt to say "Excuse me" (the Doppler Effect may have been a factor..) or it seems overtake me on the outside.
Maybe physical ability is inversely proportional intelligence as a school friend once suggested....
THEN
2. Minutes later, some tw*t in a rusty hatchback mounted the pavement yards in front of me, cut across, and screamed to a halt inches in front of the chippy. Just missed me - in a state of clinical shock, (and being a chicken), I plodded on
FOLLOWED BY
3. Two teenage hooligans ahead pratting around on the pavement by the Halls of Residence. A middle aged women on bike cycled past - they both screamed at her, one lunging out with something (a stick ?). She looked horribly rattled as she went past me. For only the second time in 4 years I stopped and found myself screaming abuse at complete strangers.
FINALLY
4. A neighbour in an MPV flew past me and down our road (a cul de sac) at absurd speed narrowly missing some very young kids playing - she then honked away, blisfully ignorant of her own stupidity, and no doubt cursing these brats for not being in front of a PS2
To quote the undertaken in Dad's Army, we are all doomed !
A good point about the laces venom. I remember reading a RW blurb about different ways to tie your laces in order to achieve snugness at different points along the foot.
My feet definitely aren't sliding but I'll try and find the issue so you can see if it is any help swerve.
Legs a bit achey after the exertions of yesterday. Never stretch properly after a race and then had a 40 min drive home. Wishing I'd gone for a recovery run this morning but couldn't drag myself out of bed early enough.
Why: 2 reasonably long days one after the other before today and hill session planned for tommorrow. Legs were sore before recovery run but the run breathed life into them. A great advert for the benefit of a gentle run rather than complete rest when legs are tired. Have also following on from general advice on here being looking up a sport masseur to see if a once a week massage would help.
Last rest: Friday
Last hard: Saturday
Mike S - one thing to consider is you may well simply be better suited to the shorter distances. Not everyone is made for the marathon or even the half as you keep rightly reminding people. Personally, only reason I am doing 2 marathons a year and gearing up all my training towards a marathon is there are virtually no races here in turkey. If I was back in Uk or Belgium I think i would race max one marathon per year and enjoy racing every other week at the 10km or x-country.
Comments
(PS Iran must seem pretty dark after Dubai...)
Well done all racers and esp. those PB's.
What: recovery run of as yet undecided length.
Why: easy recovery.....nice
last hard: NYD
last rest: Friday
last cheesy pasta: 3 days....and not tonight either (Indian) ..cold turkey alert!
You know you want it!
Mike - You sounded disappointed with your time yesterday which was a pb! Well done!
I am actually pretty pleased to now have a PB which better reflects the sort of time I should be doing at this distance.
On the other hand, having trumpeted for so long on these Training threads about how I was targetting 84 minutes and actually hoped to do even better, there is a sense of failure. Especially when I think back over little things in the race that might have made a difference and got me over the line in under 84.
So, as I said yesterday - mixed feelings.
At some stage, I'll probably want to have another go at improving that PB further. Need to have a think about what I could do trainingwise to achieve it - and whether any such changes would be practical/feasible for the time I have available.
Sorry RB, another time I'm sure!
Looks like I might be back from the dreaded injury. Raced the Dartford 10 Yesterday managed a time of 1:13:33.
Felt absolutely knackered at the end due to lack of training I think. But my knee felt fine.
What: 4 Miles recovery
Why: Marathon schedule says so, and I want an easy ngith.
Last hard: Yesterdau
Last rest: Too many to mention.
LL
How can you guys run, particularly race, wearing heart rate monitors??? It's the last thing I'd want to know.
Best of luck, everybody.
what:lunchtime gym session x-trainer/rower and abs
after collecting kids from school a 5 mile steady run
why: feel full of beans today so felt like doing a bit of cross training aswell as my scheduled run:)
catch you later
tiaxx
Woke up feeling great...legs feeling good and no acheyness after yesterday's 15. They are feeling like proper runnin legs at last!
What: 4 mile recovery run
Why: wk 6 marathon schedule
Last hard: Sunday
Last rest: Friday
I bought some free weights last week... must start using them!
What: 8-9 miles slow
Why: recovery
Last hard: yesterday (19.6 miles)
Last rest: Tuesday 6 Jan
Well done to all the racers...
Haven't had a chance to catch up with the weekend's postings yet, but looks like some top results as always.
What: Rest.
Why: Scheduled, and legs aching after yesterday's LSD 12 mile run. After careful consideration have decided to drop down to Hal Higdon's Novice schedule for the weekly mileage, but to carry on with the long run build-up as per Intermediate 1. At this point my legs can't handle both increased mileage and an extra day of running a week, and I'd rather get to the start line uninjured and not make my 4-hour target than have to miss the FLM altogether through injury. Still seem to be running long runs too fast (9-min/mile for yesterday's 12 miler, which for a 4-hour marathon would be faster than race pace!) - may have to start using HRM again to try to slow myself down. The pace is causing too much stress on my legs. My shoes don't seem to be helping - it may be my imagination but the new Nike Kantara II seems to be less well-cushioned than its predecessor. My old shoes felt like I was running on air: with the new ones, I'm only too aware that I'm running on concrete!
Last hard: Most definitely yesterday!
Last rest: Saturday.
Have a good day out there.
What: Saturday - 2 hours of jog, shuffle, run, some easy strides, stretching and "lunge walking" - covered 8 to 10 miles, calf on RHS very sore towards the end. Sunday - calf on RHS too painful to run on so 2 1/2 hours on the mountain bike - lovely sunnny day but cold on the bike.
Why: Still feeling my way back from injury.
Last hard: 10 days.
Last rest: 3 days.
Paid a visit last Thursday to the Valence School near Sevenoaks (a Club colleague has a son there). It's a residential school for 100 or so young people with a variety of disabilities and handicaps (one of only a few in the UK). A thriving little community - some of the bravest kids and most dedicated staff you could meet. There's a limit to how much State funding can provide for them - have resolved to try and recover quickly from my current injury ASAP and try and help raise some sponsorship this year.
Today I'm just doing my hand weights routine, and press-ups, sit-ups, etc.
It's my constructive 'rest' day.
We had a dusting of snow overnight, so it is a little easier to walk about without slipping so much. But it is still too cold for any melting to occur!!
As a matter of interest Swerve, are you running in Asics? I read somewhere that they are narrow at the forefoot and when I ran my 1/2, my toes were quite badly damaged afterwards. Anyone else found this.
What: 2.5miles quick
Why:trying to run as often as possible even when I don't really have time.
Met up with Stickless today....what an inspiration!
Great results from yesterday.
What: 15 miles on mixed terrain. My long run for the week. It was raining, can't remember ever being so wet after a training run. I now know my gillet is not completely waterproof.
Have a good day everyone.
Have spent the last few weeks building from three sessions per week to a planned six sessions this week, not all running though. Current marathon plan is
Mon Swim
Tue Tempo
Wed Steady (+ yoga possibly)
Thu Speed
Fri Gym (non running CV, weights & core stability)
Sat Rest
Sun LSD
Never having exercised six days per week I shall be listening acutely to my bod for signs of protest.
What: gym (upper body weights, core stability) followed by swim
Why: Seemed like a good idea to do both but probably wasn't; kn@ckered by the end. Next week I'll stick to swim only
Last hard: Sunday - 13miles including 10k race.
Last rest: Saturday
In summary, er, no.
Just a thought anyway.
What: Nothing
Why: Always rest on Mondays
Last hard: Sat
Last rest: last Monday
Quite miraculously, my painful hip seems to have cleared up overnight! I could hardly climb up the stairs to bed last night, had to go one step at a time and had resigned myself to another training break and a no-show at the Romsey 5 on Sunday.
However, I woke up this morning without even a twinge and so far it seems to have held off ) Just hope things stay this way!!!
Also great training from those not racing it has taken me ages to read through thread;-)
Still feeling delicate(tummy bug) but knew this morning could not miss a day of my schedule so did 5.5-6 mile run it went okay(still feeling sick) but it was certainly mind over matter;-)
NE
Good news on your Hip
Miles makes smiles.
Progression
ended up with them more tired than before after only 8 miles!
anyway - it'll help with the continued weight loss attempt
exile, glad your hip is ok.
Murf, nice to see you posting.
What: Very slow 3.3 miles
Why: recovery run after yesterday.
Calves very tight, always more so in the Saucony I got recently (although they were great at first). Gonna give them a miss for a week, then try them again to see if it defo is them.
A.
5 1/2 miles recovery run (41.20) after yesterday's trek in the Beacons + last night's knackering LSD session. Weather mild tonight + lots (LOTS !) of randy frogs about !!
However, other lowlife too sadly. Its been a long, long, time since I've witnessed any nonsense whilst out running but 4 sources of "runrage" tonight (probably more in one night than I've ever witnessed).
Have to log "for the record". There's also far too much positive stuff, good karma etc on the training threads lately !!
1. 15 mins in to my jog tonight and another (much faster) runner, bizarly, ran straight into the back of me
Luckily missed my l.achiles/ankle. He was very apologetic and a bit embarrased but, it seems, was trying to overtake on the inside of a very narrow path. No attempt to say "Excuse me" (the Doppler Effect may have been a factor..) or it seems overtake me on the outside.
Maybe physical ability is inversely proportional intelligence as a school friend once suggested....
THEN
2. Minutes later, some tw*t in a rusty hatchback mounted the pavement yards in front of me, cut across, and screamed to a halt inches in front of the chippy. Just missed me - in a state of clinical shock, (and being a chicken), I plodded on
FOLLOWED BY
3. Two teenage hooligans ahead pratting around on the pavement by the Halls of Residence. A middle aged women on bike cycled past - they both screamed at her, one lunging out with something (a stick ?). She looked horribly rattled as she went past me. For only the second time in 4 years I stopped and found myself screaming abuse at complete strangers.
FINALLY
4. A neighbour in an MPV flew past me and down our road (a cul de sac) at absurd speed narrowly missing some very young kids playing - she then honked away, blisfully ignorant of her own stupidity, and no doubt cursing these brats for not being in front of a PS2
To quote the undertaken in Dad's Army, we are all doomed !
Bring back the birch....
My feet definitely aren't sliding but I'll try and find the issue so you can see if it is any help swerve.
Now have to decide how to taper for Tough Guy!
Hi Murf, you doing FLM again?
What: 10 km gentle recovery run
Why: 2 reasonably long days one after the other before today and hill session planned for tommorrow. Legs were sore before recovery run but the run breathed life into them. A great advert for the benefit of a gentle run rather than complete rest when legs are tired. Have also following on from general advice on here being looking up a sport masseur to see if a once a week massage would help.
Last rest: Friday
Last hard: Saturday
Mike S - one thing to consider is you may well simply be better suited to the shorter distances. Not everyone is made for the marathon or even the half as you keep rightly reminding people. Personally, only reason I am doing 2 marathons a year and gearing up all my training towards a marathon is there are virtually no races here in turkey. If I was back in Uk or Belgium I think i would race max one marathon per year and enjoy racing every other week at the 10km or x-country.
Simon
good luck in your new job still anyway...