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It's my first marathon and so far I'm following the program religiously. Hope to get under 3.45.
Cheers
Moggie
However I'm under no illusions that getting my 44 year old body to the start line in reasoable shape is going to require a good deal of luck! My sympathies to everyone suffering at present.
I intend to follow the 3.45 schedule religiously. The fact that this will mean the last 5 miles will be a total unknown for me is a bit disconcerting. However, i've done some long disatance cycling on totally spent legs and am confident I can do it.
Have just signed up for Cranleigh and the RW paced 15m run at Richmond Park. Also looking for a half marathon - may do wokingham in mid feb.
I personally am not built for marathon running. I am 6 feet tall and over 13 stone, and was a sprinter as a student. However I did my first marathon in 1983 because it looked an interesting thing to do, and I have this ongoing love-hate relationship with the distance. I have shorter times that in the past suggested that 3:10 should be possible, but I have never run to my potential, always folding in the last 6 miles having been on target for 3:10 to 3:20 up to that point. So my approach has been to moderate my ambition, and train to try to put off the folding point as long as possible, learning to cope better when it happens. One thing I have learnt is that even though your body says go for it, it's better to wait until 20 miles before you respond, because you can still feel great at 18 miles and fold 2 miles later!
The bottom line is I don't have any answers and am trying everything so that I can just once run my perfect marathon.
Sweep, Sarah - sorry to hear about your situations. How you feeling today? Do you have a physio appointment at all? Keep us all informed.
Monday and I'm not at work. Somehow this gives me the motivation I need for a long slow run. Think this will be make or break as I haven't done 9 miles since october. Hopefully ITB is up to it. I'm very up and down at the moment. One minute I feel great, next I get a niggle, most of them are trivial though. These niggles/twinges may not be all bad, it could be bodily muscle adaption and improvement. Stretching is working, especially the calf stretches - when I try and touch my toes I can now get an inch lower than a week and a half ago.
In case people haven't guessed I'm another on this thread following the RW schedule. Due to my irregular hours I am doing runs on different days, but all the runs are there. So don't worry Moggie plenty of people in your boat. I'm not confident about 3.45 yet though.
StephenV - You just gave me an idea. What if after long runs you did a few miles on the bike. After 10 weeks you might be used to it so when you get to 21 miles do another 5 miles on bike, and it might not be too hard. Might give you the extra endurance without beating your feet to pulp. Anybody got an opinion on whether that might just be crazy enough to work.
I'm very much sober right now Sarah. Until friday at least. I reckon I could do myself a favour and stop drinking altogether and I'm sure I'd get fitter quicker - but I think without the downtime i'd go crazy.
Interesting to hear so much worry about the last 6 miles. I haven't given it a second thought. I'm still disbelieving I'll get to mile 20!
lata
Euph
If I get through this I'll need a new challenge. Anyone else seen the Picnic? Don't think I'll be upto this in the near future though. Maybe by time I'm 30.
Euph
http://www.runnersworld.co.uk/news/article.asp?UAN=1471&v=6&sp=
Any run that takes in old mills, peoples kitchens and a chicken yard has to be done!
Sorry to hear about your injuries sarah, don't push yourself and do the Brass Monkey if you're not 100%, the last thing you want to do is crock yourself even more, hope the physio sorts you out. I'm afraid the mate i run with on saturday took my number for the BM
Colin D I'm with you on the love -hate thing with the marathon, at 5ft6in and 12st 7lb I'm also not the ideal build and i not too keen on the last 6 miles. I ran straight into the wall at 18 miles on my first one and just managed to keep running at a fast hobble for the longest 8 miles of my life. it's never hurt as much as that again although i still slow down just not as much. I've always tended to do more 20+ mile long runs than the schedules call for and i sometimes wonder if that actually counts against me. Like you say I keep trying different things i just hope one day it all goes right.
No run today as had to sort out problem with car but tomorrow will be trying 2-3 fast laps of the res with half lap jogs as i've got a day off so i'll be running from home. That's if it doesn't snow like it's supposed to !
good running all
cheers
pete
Does anyone know if a step machine is good or bad for maintaining fitness when you have ITB?
Booner - Not sure about step machine, I guess it will be like bike, ok for some sufferers not for others. On the plus side your not battering your hooves against the ground sending shock-waves up your leg exerting pressures on your leg. On the down side your still bending knee which could irritate a severly inflamed ITB.
Thought it would never get here but my 'magic bullet' has arrived. The pattstrap, and not a moment too soon. 8.5 miles was sadly too much for ITB last night. Was a bit sore from 3.5 miles but battled on. Truth be told nearly everything from lower back downwards is stiff or sore. Despite feeling fit, not covering those extra few miles for 3 months makes your body unused to it.
So have put the pattstrap on now and will wear it all day, whether exercising or not, having read somewhere that this is ok. I think the rest of the pain will fade over the passing of the day.
Replaced Heart rate Monitor batteries but it still does odd things. Ocasionally jumps to over 200-bpm and quite often seems to jump up and down 10-bpm (say 160->170->160) so not quite sure where I stand with the thing. Luckily have had a few sessions last week where it actually behaved so I'll just keep running at the pace I surmised from the effort in those runs. I'll save up and buy one of those Garmin Forerunners as a treat for completing FLM. Anybody got one? or the Polar equivelent.
Good luck with your threshold sessions, or whatever you are all running today.
lata
Euph
Moggie with frozen ears but satisfied smile
Set off full of confidence on the first lap, but suffered a bit on the next 3. Managed the following splits: 6'54"/7'06"/7'13"/7'12". Can see some improvement there, but maybe that's just because the intervals were shorter than last week. It certainly felt harder. Nice and sunny but a biting wind - seems the rain and snow has decided to make it's home in more northern parts! Looking to run to work tomorrow for the 'easy' session.
driving is another
time splits were 7m 36s, 7m 25s, 7m 36s & 7m 58s for the last.
Don't know if it was the early morning or what but I found it really hard and didn't enjoy it one bit & I can't seem to hit the magic 7m/mile at the moment.
Glad its over too, I might have to rethink my training next week, I can't see myself doing this too many more times, it just wipes me out.
Seems strange, but I am really looking forward to my slow 7 miler tomorrow, anything has got to be better than today.
Happy running
Nick
Well done to Tallguy & Moggie
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Injured, at this rate I'll fall back in to the patterns that defined Drunken-Euphoria in late 2004. And things seemed so rosy before yesterdays 8.5m. Still, day off tomorrow. Chance for aches to heal. Need to up the ante on the RICE. Still very early in the schedules so I reckon I'll have my head out the sand before too long.
Some great splits for the speed training out there. Pat yourselves on the back and enjoy your recovery run/day off tomorrow.
lata all.
Euph
keep those injuries at bay
cheers
pete
But at least I can see some inprovement...been doing the vicious Yassos on the treadmill, 800 metres in 3 mins 20 followed by 3 mins 20 at a slowace. Got up to 8 in a row before dying. Only managed 6 last week so maybe it's all worth it.
Maybe...
I must admit, I think the ultimate goal is fuelling the efforts on the intervals. If I had no goal in sight, I'd be easing off and backing out earlier.
Well the car is safely tucked up in the office car park and the only way I'm going to get in tomorrow is on foot or by public transport. Unless the snow and ice does make it down south overnight, on foot it's going to be. Question is, how close to the office do I get my other half to drop me off? We live about 12 miles away, last run in was from 7 miles out. Tempted to add on another mile tomorrow, but the schedule says '7 miles easy'. I can feel myself getting slowing sucked in to that 'injury free' induced false sense of security!
Euph
it is really frustating this resting lark
aaaarrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhhh
do you guys think i regular knee strap would help.