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MsFit - Wouldn't worry about machine calculations. At the gym I often go to I run slow miles before a weights session. Half the machines will calculate HR semi-accurately. Another quarter will not read HR despite my chest strap being on. And occasionally a treadmil will give me HR readings even if I'm not wearing chest strap. Strange but true. Maybe some days I have a powerful static charge?
Off to said gym. Instinct says don't go you'll just make aches and leg stifness last longer but if I don't do a few miles and weights today won't get another chance till thursday. And then I'll be down to 3 days running left this week. Maybe I'll just do half my planned 4m easy. Also read somewhere that its good to do a recovery run within a few days of racing even if you don't feel like it. Supposedly it helps clear out the lactic acid, and my legs must be pumped full of it!
lata
Lactic-Euphoria
Not doing too well on sticking to the schedule, another nice day so ended up doing bluebell woods again with a couple of mates. I did push a lot more this time both up and down so surely that counts as a bit of a speed sesh ? Will be doing RPM tomorrow to rest the legs from the pounding and keep the dreaded injuries at bay. One thing I have noticed is that i struggle to get my heart rate up over 165 ish going uphill when I'm trying hard yet when i come flying fdown hill ( all that weight does have some advantages i.e. gravity )my heart rate jumps up to 190-200 which feels a bit much when you're nearly 48. Might be my heart attack waiting in the wings !!
Anyway hope you all have some good runs
cheers
pete
Played safe today and did a tiny two miles slow on treadmill and avoided strength work on legs. Instead added 5 pounds to every lift on upper body work as thats the only part of my body working right now. Tomorrow I doubt I'll be able to get up.
Question, on the subject of 2.45 marathons. Does anybody here reckon its possible that if they kept up the training, building up mileage or speed month-on-month, year-on-year that eventually they would be able to run a 2.45? Bear in mind thats an increase from averaging 7mph to 9.5mph, or 8.6-min/mile to 6.3-min/mile. A lot of people think this is impossible, but I reckon if you built up really slow it might be possible.
lata
Euph
how are you guys holding up
Back to the 2.45 question I floated. I'm young so i'm going to set myself the super long term goal of a 3 hour marathon. I know some guys have started threads who reckon they might be able to do one first time. They probably ran sub 40 min 10ks first time out though. If I can knock 5 miles of per year from 3.45 this year(assuming I can do that) I'll be there by my mid 30's. Probably an unrealistic target but its nice to dream. Hmm, I could be setting world records in my late 40's - LOL!
lata
Euph
Good news Sweep, easy does it.
Tallguy - My luck was in today as I paid £189 for the Garmin 301 as I ordered at the start of today.
Good night all
i think a sub 3.00 at 47 is probably a bit wishful thinking, all i can do is try and outlive everyone but unfortunately that Singh guy has already thought of that. Euph and sweep you're still young so it's feasible although i have to agree with PPB, as you get older you question the requirement to dedicate your life to it.
Euph in respect of the downhill running, Ilkley is in a valley with steep hills in all directions so i do tend to fly down them flat out, it's the only time i can run fast so i make the most of it. The chest strap does come a bit lose Tall Guy so i expect it's a combination of the two that makes my HR go up.
RPM today and some mile sprints tomorrow, yippee , don't you just love pain.
have a good day everyone
cheers
pete
I'm a bit old for that, if I get under 3.45 I'll get a GFA place next year so that's my goal.
My foreunner 201 has just arrived and is charging its batteries, can't wait to take it out for a run!
Happy running all, it's a take it easy day (well on my schedule at least)
Mogs
Have just been away on holiday for a month though, so that could put the mockers on things a bit. I did plan for this by training to about a third of the way through my 18-week schedule by Christmas to allow for the break, and this seems to have paid off.
Last week was my first week back and I eased in with a 30-mile week. Seem to have lost surprisingly little stamina although my pace has fallen off a bit - hopefully that'll come back as my legs get used to repeated daily thrashing. Had some muscle stiffness and soreness last week but I guess that's to be expected after such a long break.
Feeling quite motivated at the moment. I'm an evening runner - can't do those early starts - and have a 7-mile run planned for tonight, with hopefully a faster section in the middle as I have to start running at marathon pace occasionally at some point!
I'm also starting to wonder if 3.45 might be a realistic goal for me. I did 3.56 at Abingdon in October, and would be reasonably confident of getting under 4 hrs again. It's the thought of sustaining that 8.30 min mile pace that sounds so tough. If I can get under 1.40 for a half (Bath in March), then 3.45 for the full seems possible. Well, maybe..
Good luck to all with training
Welcome BD and welcome back Minks. You both sound in good shape for a 3.45, belive it or not 8.30 is not a hard pace to sustain, just it may drop off in the last 3-4 miles like I did last year and narrowly missed 3.45 by a few secs, grrrrrrrr. However, the crowds at the start do hold you back a bit.
Anyway GOOD NEWS on my injury, I have got my bone scan appointment through for next Tuesday, so we will hopefully be able to see what we are dealing with soon. The NHS really have done me proud (along with my doctor and physio pushing things through quickly). It seems quite a lengthy process, as I have to have the injection first, then wait 3 hours, then go through the scanner for 30-45 minutes to see what they find. However, I'm so glad to get it through so quickly, I am very impressed with the NHS! I'd heard that it could be up to 3 months of waiting.
The pool opened at 7am this morning and I was in the water and swimming by 7.02am, very keen. Started work half an hour later and will be finishing half an hour later, but the rest of my evening is free - much easier to do it this way round.
Getting quite excited as next week, I can try some remedial running to see how the leg reacts. Also a bit nervous in case the pain re-emerges, but will let my body make that decision and deal with what comes along. It will be the final ruling decision as to whether I may get a shot at FLM or will be looking towards Berlin in September.
SWEEP, so glad to hear your news and very happy that you went to a sports physio who knows their stuff. It has no doubt given you a huge boost, so take it easy for a week or so. You will be flying again in no time at all.
PPB, I'm 33 now and belive I may make a sub 3 hour marathon one day. Apparently the optimum age for a marathoner is 37, so we both have some time left. Like you I also enjoy swimming and cycling and by cross-training the risk of injuries is greatly reduced. Perhaps triathlons are the way to go, but my cycling is still poor.
Big Luds, Thirsk is good, but don't know any longer running routes round there, perhaps you do?
Peter - no heart attacks please and you are doing just fine!!!
Happy training all
Cheers
Sarah :0)
Great news on the injury front for Sweep and Sarah so we may well yet have you with us in London if all goes well. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
Minks & BD welcome to the thread. Minks I've seen you around the forums for quite a while nice to have you on here.
PPB
My marathon goals, in order of importance are 1) Get round without causing myself long term injury, 2) Enjoy as much of the experience as possible, 3) Finish in a time I can be proud of.
Maybe for FLM 2006 the order might change a bit, but I can't see myself budging on No.1!
But we must have faith - come race day we will all have tapered and feel a lot fresher and hopefully raring to go! (Well, in theory, anyway!)
I'm planning a bit of 8:30 pace in my 7 mile run tonight just to reassure myself that it doesn't feel that bad. When I'm not marathon training I find that pace quite easy, so my feeling is we're all probably just more tired than usual as we're adjusting to higher mileage than we would normally do.
Tallguy - Sometimes I put 3 ahead of 1, but I think for a first marathon I'll probably be sensible.
lata
drunken- if you put your mind to it mate, you can do it,