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Well done Pinks it is a tough day to be out.
I did know Jo reasonably well for the 2 years we were together but we werent best buddies. She was very studious and always reading during our free periods. She was quite quiet (unlike me!) As I said she came to my birthday party and I used to sit next to her (trying to work out what the pictures she would draw were going to turn into as she was a very good artist). I didn't think that she would be famous she was very clever though and loved books so I suppose it was inevitable. She still looks exactly as she did when we were at school too. Hasn't aged a bit!
i din't go out today have got a nigglr in my left knee cap that comes and goes, so i'm gonna go on the tredmill tomoz, luckily i've got a physio sesh booked for monday.
It's sooooo cold out there!!!
anyone any suggestions re my hamstring if thats what iti is? never had this before and now bit concerned. did i do too much this week after Brighton? really frustrating having to walk last 3-4 miles but didin't want to do any real damage and the girl i was with was quite happy to walk (very nice lady) as she was out v late last night. strange though as energy wise i felt fine and could have gone another 3 or 4 miles further but it just hurt!
just had a nap - feel totally exhausted. does anyone else get wiped out by lsr?
Ease back a bit this week (maybe change one of your shorter runs to a x-training session)
A nap after your LSR is recommended I have a good rest afterwards, sometimes I sleep, sometimes I just slob on the settee. if you need to sleep then you need it! Your body is repairing itself while you do!
well done pinks..good effort but be careful with that leg
used a camelback for the first time on a run yesterday (have only used it for cyclying before)...was pretty good, but back gets v sweaty!
Someone said on this forum not to do more than the 20 miles - why not? Wouldn't it be a psychological boost if you know you've done 22 miles and on the day you know that you can do 22, so only 4 to go?
i think more than 20 or more than one 20 for a beginner can put you at risk of injury and burnout but Rio will know. chris you must be on HH novice like me and Cas - 16 next week and its my b/day! what a treat!!
i did a nice easyish!! 10km today on the tredmill, got a few niggles, so luckily got physio tomoz.. with a hill sesh, then not running untill thursday which will be nice as my poorlegs have worked hard this week.
I too, did a 15 miler yesterday in 2hrs 40 mins (with the bloody wind in my face for most of the way). I'm scheduled to do the Cranleigh 15 or 21 miler on 26th March. I'm planning on the 21 mile as psychologically I would only have another 5.2 to do on the big day (yeah right - with agony in every step!!!). A friend of mine who is a professional runner said that never do the whole 26 miles as you're body would never recover. That's why most of the training manuals only go up to 20 miles. Anyway, safe running and good luck with your 16 next weekend (me too!!!) xx
Linda, you've recovered brilliantly from that fall, well done on 17 miles! did you have to walk at all? really disappointed with my hamstring but have managed to get sports massage booked for tomorrow so hope that will help. just been for a leisurely 2.5 mile walk round the golf course with my daughter and that seems to have loosened it up a bit. going to ice again before bed. any other suggestions??help!
I went to do a run/walk 5k race with some of my beginners but no one turned up (not surprising as we had sleet, rain, cold wind etc). So anyway I did it by myself as a recovery run. Felt really comfortable (surprising with Saturdays miles in my legs). Took 2 walk breaks and still managed 30mins 20.
Pinks you are really just going to have to rest and ice and maybe some gentle stretching of that hamstring but it might be worth a trip to a sports therapist to see if there is any underlying damage.
Chris there is no need to do more than 20 miles in the build up to the marathon. Your body takes a day for each mile run to repair itself. So you are already pushing it hard with the increasing long runs on a weekly basis. Believe me by the time you get to 20 miles it hurts but the crowd will get you round from there. And psychologically you know that once you have got to that point nothing will stop you finishing (even if you have to walk the rest) Even top club runners wont do more than 1 or possibly 2 20 mile runs (and only then because they can do a marathon inside 3 hours so it would just be a long run for them anyway)
Happy training week everyone
ahcee this morning after 15 miler yesturday in 2hrs 30... really chuffed with efforts and on a high as feel one step closer to reaching goal.
tried first cold bath yesturday which i think was worse than the run.. dont know how much it worked as still felt sore.. only could stay in it for 5mins.
Also tried the gels for the first time which are not very plesant but worked.. think will probably use a combination of both drink and gels as can imagine feeling if drink to much of stuff.
Well done on everyones efforts this weekend.. we really are making progress and linda well done on recuvery
Is it just me or has everyone forgotten whats its like not to ache??
i find i can't live without cold baths now. i do what Rio suggested - wear a fleece/warm top to keep top half warm and have hot drink to sip while in bath. i can stay in for 10 mins now and find it really soothing.
supposed to do 16 next weekend, 12 week after and 18 week after that. was supposed to do Silverstone half on weekend of 18 but now think i will do MK half on weekend of 12 as fits in better. if i do that should i still do the 16 this weekend (hamstring permitting running at all!!) - any suggestions anyone??
Fenn you really need to stay in the bath for 10 mins to get the best out of it and you really shouldn't ache too much. Might be worth a visit to a sports massage person to get rid of the knots in your muscles as it sounds as if that might be the problem.
Some good running there though. Well done you!
will not give up compelety on cold baths, will try for longer next time.. i too wore layers of ski clothes and wooly hat in bath... must of looked ridiculous..
another question relating to the cold baths...
At moment come in from run after a five min warm down and stretch whilst warm.. have a drink and then get in to cold bath... then come out of cold bath and when dried off have a warm shower..
Is it ok to have shower so soon after cold bath
Sorry Pinks no suggestions re hamstring.. RICE.. taking it easy and massage would be my solution.. which sounds like your doing and oh stretching even on rest days.
Rio think will invest in sports massages.. going for an easy swim tonight so hopefully that will help
Have my first massage booked for tomorrow at 11! will let you know how I get on! No training for me tomorrow though!! An enforced rest day!!
But that means a pyramid session with my club on Thursday following speedwork tomorrow and Wednesday with my ladies!!
Two hard sessions in a row!!! tough going.
because of dodgy knee havent done any speed or tempo sessions for a couple of weeks am a now a bit scared of going for it as always get knee pain on treadmill when doing these sessions and coincedently always on a Tuesday.
feel really postive today as now over half way 5 weeks of hard training to go and 3 weeks tapering!!!
Pinks I hope the massage helps. Ask advice from the therapist - he/she ought to know what they would recommend by way of training etc to help speed recovery
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Dis half on sunday, you had that really strong/fast session on wednesday and on Saturday you sounded like you had a quick pace going... Maybe its too much too soon for body to cope with...
I know this is frustrating beacuse you have the fitness but body just cant cope, i constantly have bately of what i feel i can do and what body can cope with.
I think definately go to training session on wednesday as you enjoy it and it otivates you but dont push your body
will be more aware of body position and deliberately leave headphones in locker on tuesday