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You've found the right weight for you now, well done and you can maintain it. Over a period of time as long as you keep up all this running your body shape may change a little to what you aspired to.
Big G - there is a weight/performance calculator here
http://www.runningforfitness.org/calc/diet/weighteffect
but of course it's only making assumptions, such as that any weight lost is fat only. For instance it you ate far too little pre marathon and any weight loss could be fluid along with glycogen and you'd run slower. But it's still an interesting calculator.
I didn't realise they'd done the vanity sizing to men's clothes too. In women's clothing we've had that problem for years, really stupid marketing ploy which I'm sure has fuelled the obesity crisis. I think they're still doing it, I'm not small but I often pick up what might be the smallest size available a size 8 and it's too big for me. Most of my clothes are now a size 8, but in reality I'm actually what used to be a size 12.
Steven - maybe your OH is right, maybe time to improve your diet. I think as we get older it's even more important to fuel our bodies right and you will feel better and your training and racing will improve. You can still enjoy a few treats.
Just don't follow the Keith Stuart diet
Keith - it was Big G that gave me a recipe with cauliflower rice, I'm sure he could pass it onto you too
Ian - good, that's the decision made now about your race pace
Emmy - bloody hell, you'd have to get too close to a snake for comfort to use a knife! Isn't pepper spray the best way as it will deter an animal as well as a human?
You'd need a club with more suitable hours. Here we have lots of new clubs starting up all the time, maybe you'll find one soon.
Right booking frenzy over for the Pilates class 10 days ahead, got a place. Now I can go out for my run
Nell, well done on the GFA for what I'm assuming was your first marathon? Is your GFA valid for London 2018 and 2019 races? If so, as Ian said you could always just do London the year after, or maybe give both a go with the intention of enjoying them rather than racing them?
Ian's right you can defer London but if you don't want to there will a lot of other runners doing the same thing so you'll have a nice support group to help you. There's quite a few runners on this thread that have done marathons very close together so can help with any advice.
Big G - well at Dorney you'll pass the feed station 10 times so you'll have to be strong willed not to loiter. I didn't mind really, was a very hot day when I was there and it was a course I knew that wouldn't suit me for a faster time.
Had a good run, I thought it was going to rain but the sun came out and it's nice and fresh. I live such a sheltered life that the biggest excitement today was seeing that the perimeter fence has been put up round what will be our new Aldi store.
Incidentally for those of you that like High 5 gels, Lidl's are selling their race packs from next Thursday, I think you get 12 gels plus an load of other stuff for £8. I don't like gels but can stomach a High 5 one if I have to.
The weight debate is rather interesting. Big G - my dad was the absolute worst when it came to my running and other training. I'd tell him I'd achieved something and rather than congratulate me, he'd tell me not to "overdo it". Still, this was a man who ended up with diabetes, high cholesterol and blood pressure and ended up having a stroke that left him disabled. So I'll stick with the running, thanks dad.
Anyway, I've been sticking at 10 and half stone for a while now (I was closer to 11 in the winter - I am always heavier then). Since I'm 5'7, I am heavy for a runner, at least as far as performance goes. I think Mo is the same height as me and I'm 11 kilos heavier! It'd be nice to get down to 10 stone but there's not much I can cut from my diet, other than carbs. I don't eat fast food, rarely drink and rarely eat junk so I'd be left eliminating things that would take all the joy out of eating. No thanks.
Big G - that marathon sounds tortuous!
Took a rest day yesterday (I had thought about running, but it was chucking it down in the morning so I decided against). I did a little yoga at home and had an afternoon nap.
There was no parkrun today (cancelled due to a beer festival - not that the festival was starting at 9am, but trucks could be on part of the course delivering beer and stuff). Had I been fighting fit I would have opted for the 10K on Clapham Common instead, but I'm not, so I didn't. Instead just went out for a run on the common, albeit earlier than parkrun. I was feeling rather wobble-headed again and my hip felt stiff (however, it is fine while running now, so I'll chalk this up to getting tight from all the lunging in Vinyasa) so I warmed up carefully - sun salutations, glute bridges and then a brisk 5 minute walk. I was rather surprised to run a 10:31 opening mile and a 10:03 second mile, so I decided to make it a progression and ran 9:47, 9:37 and 9:22 for the other three. I finished with a cooldown mile of 10:27. Not a bad run considering. I don't doubt I'll be able to do Richmond half next weekend, even if I'm still not quite right, but I'm not in PB shape. Given the issues I've had, I've got a better chance getting that PB at River Thames in October, if conditions are favourable. There's also Royal Parks but I'm going to assume it'll be too crowded for a PB. Speaking of which, if anyone wants to sponsor me, there's a link in my profile. I'm only half way to my target with a month to go.
I did a 6-mile run including a parkrun this morning, which was really enjoyable. On the parkrun I was running with a clubmate so we had a good chat on the way around. The field was waterlogged as expected, so a slow run was all I could manage on that section in any case!
Nice run/parkrun today, Big G.
On the weight thing, my dad told me the other day that he was 8 and a half stone when he ran his PBs and if people said he looked too thin, he always knew he was in good running shape! I haven't lost any weight since starting running, and if anything my legs look bigger as have more muscle now.
Ran my 99th parkrun today at a local course. Was running alongside another lady for a lot of it and we had the same 50 top, same height and were running in sync until she sped up at the end and beat me by 6 seconds. Just looked her up and she has a 2:37 marathon PB and a 33 min 10k from the commonwealth games! Plus a 15 minute 5K PB! But all from a few years back. Not heard of her, but today must have been a gentle jog comparatively!
Big G - I wonder if all these folk that tell us not to 'overdo it' or offer dire threats for our joints are just trying to convince themselves that they are much healthier by not doing anything. Maybe only way of truly tackling the obesity crisis is to change folks thinking and attitude to healthy eating and exercise, but at the moment there's definitely a 'them' or 'us'.
Re parkrun, I saw a piece in the HE looking for volunteers for the new parkrun at Teignmouth, says it won't go ahead without volunteers coming forward to help. Surely whoever is setting it up should have sorted that out first?
SK - you've obviously inherited your Dad's running physique and talent for running.
Well done at speedy run in fast company for your parkrun. There are a lot of good runners that have run in the Commonwealth Games, but just never quite make the World/European/Olympic standard, but a great way to represent their country.
Right must get out for my run, want to be back to watch GNR on telly
Shades-With parkrun they generally have a core team set up then rely on runners volunteering every now and again to fill the extra slots,it's probably hard at first as everyone wants to run it.
Off to watch the Wirral half and 10k later,gutted I can't do it as it's an ideal pb course if there's no wind but the timing is poor for me again.
Ian - I see they're doing a Half later in the year on what I think is the same course as your ultra was on? Never mind about today's races, we can't do them all.
After my run yesterday I did Yin at 12 and Vinyasa at 5, and actually woke up feeling a bit more limber than usual. (Well, less stiff and painful, anyway). And also happy. Weather was perfect (blue skies, bit of a nip) so I did 9 miles and found my pace crept up to around MP after a bit so I stuck with it. However, after putting in a 9:35 at mile 8 I realised I was actually pretty knackered and still not feeling 100% so I did a bit of a slower mile to cool down. I probably should have stuck to easy pace today (after the progression run yesterday) but I do tend to run faster when I'm a little bit cold. My groin is a bit tetchy but it did get a good stretching yesterday (dragons were invovled in Yin, then all the lunges in Vinyasa) so not surprised, really. I'll keep an eye on it. Got Yin again later.
Shades-Ive seen that race,you are correct it's along the Wirral way,that's the bit of the ultra I wasn't keen on but would probably still do it except it's the week before 4 villages half and I've really enjoyed that the last 2 years,even though its definitely not a pb course so I'll be aiming at that instead.
Seen the weather was due to be worse this afternoon so didn't go and watch the race so I could do my 8 miles this morning instead,all done at an easy pace so going to watch GNR now that I recorded as I knew I'd miss the first half
Cal - I don't think it was an epic battle for her as I'm sure she still had a couple of gears that she wasn't even using!
Love watching the GNR on TV! The men's race does seem a bit like a Mo show as they don't seem to have invited any serious contenders for him, but I might be proved wrong. Also, I'd forgotten how dull most of the route is! I ran it in 2015 and apart from the start and finish, most of the route is on dual carriage ways.
Shades, from what I know from parkrun set ups, they usually try and have an initial core team of volunteers when setting up, but then always try and increase this when the parkrun is launched. I think the reason for this is that often the initial core team are also attached to other local parkruns and also because the bigger the team, the more all the volunteers can get to run themselves.
Had a nice 15 mile run this morning t a local aquadrone. I think autumn mornings are probably my favourite time of year for running. I've got another HM next week, the Harrow Half which has been resurrected. They've got closed roads for the course but have only got around 500 runners entered. The course won't be fast as the start and finish both have a steep hill (the course measurer, called this 'suicidal'!) They have roped in Mara Yamauchi to run it as she used to run for a local club.
Got up at 6.30am this morning ready for 20 mile long run. Ate some porridge and toast and jam. By the time I'd finished faffing it was 7.30am when I left. Nice day for running, overcast but not too cold. Wore my new running belt with 6 gels attached to practice for marathon day. It felt weird initially but soon got used to it. Felt good on run and enjoyed the route along country roads and canal tow paths. It was a 10 mile loop so planned to do same loop twice. I decided to wait as long as I could before taking my first gel thinking i may experience something close to bonking just to see how I coped. At just after 14 miles I got really hungry and pace slowed. Then I suddenly had visual distortion which I've had years ago prior to a migraine. I ate two gels in succession (bit too late in the day I reckon). The vision distortion got really bad but I was determined to complete my 20 miles.......
Shades I was glad I had my pound coin today
Dashed into Tesco at 18 miles and bought a mars bar which helped. Did the 20 miles which I was pleased with and the vision distortion had gone but a migraine came on. Luckily my wife had some strong migraine tablets. Took one and eventually it got rid of it.
I've been trying to work out what caused the migraine on good old Google and I think it was electrolyte depletion and lack of hydration. Annoyed with myself for not drinking enough water yesterday. I am also going to make an electrolyte drink to take the day before my next 20 miler.
Despite this I really enjoyed the run. My legs felt good throughout and it passed by so quickly with the lovely scenery along canal
Had a look at the results of the Wirral half and a guy I raced a lot of my 10k with(beat me by 10 secs) finished just under 1:27,that gives me a lot of confidence that I could get sub 1:30 in November.
Hope everyone else is ok, feeling exhausted, just wanted to update
SK - yeah, not had one running before although I've had dehydration headaches. I did get one after the gym once, which I put down to the fluorescent lighting. I was doing bench press on my back and one of the lights was flickering a bit. Also got a couple around the time my mother died which I put down to stress. Not had one for a while, thank goodness.
You need to eat well after a long run.
Ian - 1:27 for your fellow racer, wow. Is he in that club you are going to join?
Lily - well done, that's is a massive PB, brilliant running.
Very windy here this morning, gusty so one minute it's fine then the next nearly blown off my feet. Nothing like Irma though, so scary to see pictures of that, we don't know how lucky we are.