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Joe - sounds like a great day. Kona is always more about the experience than racing ?
LMH - hammy was tight but runnable for 4m inc 5x30sec strides. Its just tight, its not the same as the other one which wouldnt let me run on it pre vlm and yeovil. If it gets me round Abo ok, I'll treat it to a week off.
Joe - sounds great and sub 10 aint to be sniffed at surely? And getting 2 marathons in in a few months would be a challenge let alone with the warms ups thrown in, so fatigue must play a part.
TT, a fine trainer and one I use if I'm straight out the door onto the Westwood and its muddy, brilliant for that. I'm just feeling extra extra cautious this time round.
TR I'm lucky that there are lots of trails close to me
10 miles this morning, and Ive dug out the HR monitor, I added an out and back to make it 10, but the sodding Garmin auto paused due to heart rate (or something) and left me on 9.2 I'll google it shortly and turn that stupid setting off!
Anyone who's trained / training by HR for a long period of time, is there much correlation to say 6/7 years ago's stats? IE I used to know where it would need to be for MP will I still be there or thereabouts?
I wouldn't mind knowing before I blow up in a marathon
TR - Good on you. My 6 months d&d too, 4 marathons (Malaga, Gran Canaria, Paris & London) plenty to look forward to there, just hope mind and body willing.
TR/ SJ/ TT/ Jooligan - Just make sure now you get to that starting line, fresh, injury free and raring to go. No overdoing it these last few days. All more or less in the tank now.
wtgy - might get myself one of those Salomon belts - thanks for posting, looks a big upgrade on the bouncy belt I've got at the moment.
8 miles along the local trail with the pooch this morning and so looking forward to a week in Gran Canaria next - sun, sea and lots of warm weather training...
TR - I had an email from the organisers of the Manchester Half telling me they think I can complete a marathon in 2:44:xx
Will try to catch up on the rest of the thread later - away on business this week. Good week to forget about running for a few days.
OO - no proper maras in my 6 months until Btighton though unlike yours. My next 3 days will be 4, 3 and 2m, so no over doing it here.
wtgy - good to hear approval for the 212s. They arrive today, so other than a try for fit this evening their first outing will probably be this weekend's xc (where I'm going to end up being whipped by half of my club no doubt, but I guess I've got to start the road back somewhere).
A few weeks back I picked up a pair of Nike Zoom Fly (the baby brother of the 4% - they have the carbon fibre sole in them, but not everything else (whatever everything else is?), so I decided to wear them today for my fartlek session. In case any of you are interested whether this is all marketing hype or if there might be something in it) here's a little summary of what they were like...………
Nike Zoom Fly:
WTG - I don't train by HR but have been wearing one for years (chest strap, now wrist sensor). All I look out for are improvements in resting HR and that runs at particular efforts are not only feeling easier but are showing up as using less beats of the ticker to achieve them. I also use it to keep easy runs easy <130 etc. It's very ad-hoc but helps my motivation to see things improving.
TR/OO- nice fixture compiling. I need to add some more too. I have Four villages half at end of Jan and Manchester beginning of April. I need another half in March, maybe Fleet is an option with a trip to see the folks. Would ordinarily do Wilmslow but they have put it on two weeks before Manchester which I'm not sure is a good idea. Although I've seen plenty of people doing a half the week before an A race just recently.
TR - glad to hear hammy should be ok.
ES - speaking of Manchester, as TR says, it's going from strength to strength and is now at a size that it feels like a mini-big marathon (that makes no sense at all). Fast course which is well supported whole way round with the exception of miles 21-23 where its a bit more rural. The run through Sale in a Sale vest is always a good feeling with loads of clubmates marshalling/supporting.
5 last night with 2 sub 6:30's. Faster part felt better than the warm-up/cool-down. All evidence points to a sub 3 but I'm not going to be greedy. The 3:12 in April was a decent comeback but lacked consistency. I have that this time around and feel aerobically very good. I can't shake the 1.26 I ran at York though. What would Pug do in this situation ?
Last couple of years I've done it as a training run in 3.09 (1.36 / 1.33) and 3.07 (1.35 / 1.32) and that translated to 2.51 and 2.52 in the target races 4-6 weeks after. Hence why I want to go a bit faster this time and hope that something closer to 3.00 will translate to a sub 2.50 (or even faster?!!). ES - I also ran Manc half the week before Abo two years ago in 1.18 so you may be in similar shape, or hopefully a bit faster.
Two runs y'day inc. hill session and 16 tonight, but nothing more too strenuous this week. And yes Jooligan, the 80 miles will include Sunday's event. Will be my 10th Abo marathon!
Joe - reasonable effort
Rest day for me
TT - go read recent posts on Stevie G thread re Vaporfly and the gains reported.
Dan - choo choo. Ill try to keep up for as long as possible if it feels comfy enough, theres energy to be saved from hitching a ride. No idea if im fit enough to sub3, and those days might be behind nowadays. But like a say theres energy to be saved from getting a tow.
I'm looking forward to the full report Joe.
WTG - your max HR is supposed to decrease by a few beats as you age but there shouldn't be too much difference assuming all other things are equal.
I will be heading out at 3hr pace on Sunday. There are usually quite a few doing similar but you can sometimes end up running on your own for chunks of race. For those who haven't done it before there are a couple of small rises at miles 7 and 9 which you repeat on 2nd lap. Also a couple of sections on hard packed trail.The only other thing to note is the annoying subway at about 24.5 miles which can cost you a few seconds... last year I ran 3:00:03 🤔
As for nearby pubs, I think the bar at the stadium usually opens but I never had a beer as need to drive back to London to get properly hammered.
4m with stides done. 3m tomorrow, 2m saturday.
TT good luck in XC if it is how its supposed to be (mud bath) They'll be perfect
SJ do you race in it / review after?
SJ / LMH I guess I treat it as starting from scratch, and learn what my HR does now, and probably blow up a bit etc
My resting is still pretty low.
OO - the belt has arrived, not gonna lie, I look a bugger in it
With this surplus Ive got to lose, and HR monitor, I'll look like a stringed up pork joint
LMH -- I'll be booking a Travelodge for York as soon as it gets within their booking horizon (9 months?). Though maybe I should turn the tables on my kids and insist on kipping on one of their floors of their uni accommodation/shared houses, I'm sure they'd love that...
Thanks SJ re my cold. I didn't notice it come on until nearly a whole week after Chester, so I don't think it would have been affecting me TT, but can't be sure. This is the first time I've been ill since wearing a wrist-based HRM; for the record, it's made no difference to my resting rate at all.
Best of luck Abo crew! The weather is looking kind for you. Go well.
JoeB - sounds like you had a great experience which is the main thing. Whether you'd done 9:20, 9:40 or 9:59 probably wouldn't have really mattered. When I did it I had expected some hills, so actually thought it was reasonably flat in comparison, but I found the wind coming back very tough. It didn't help that I was on a rented bike that didn't really fit me, a saddle I wasn't used to, only one bottle cage and no bike computer or any way of measuring distance. But like you, I was just there to enjoy it.
WTG - as LMH says, maxHR is meant to come down slightly with age, in which case so would maraHR (all other things being equal), but I expect you'll need to do some test runs to reassess it.
TR - sounds like you're ready to go, nothing silly in the next few days!
7x800 on a very hilly road loop on Tuesday evening, but nothing yesterday due to work. Hope to get out for 40 minutes before nursery pick-up today.
Padams - hopefully my toaster will stay safe.
Had a sachet of diaoralyte every day since monday, started on the extra carbs today, i can feel my fuel tanks (quads) swelling nicely.
Dan, Tick Tock, SJ - Plan is to park up 7.45ish at the college, get ready and then the 15min ish walk (????) to the start. Hopefully the A34 is nice and clear at 6ish on a Sunday morning.
5M with 8x0.1M strides yesterday & day off today.
Remember Abingdon guys, the 4 pre-marathon race motions golden rule!
Lovely day for running, just did 6m with the pooch in the sunshine, maybe 6m later as need to get back onto the marathon training saddle as Malaga is now 7 Sundays away.
After my thorough wetting last week I'm delighted if not a bit envious that the weather gods seem to be smiling on you all for Abo day. It's one thing less to worry about I guess, hope all of your other ducks line up in a row on race day too. Best of luck to all.
My first run post marathon today, an easy 4m down the coastal path here. BTW if anyone wants to enter York next year there is a discount code 'IMBACK19' expiring 22nd Oct. £40 nett.