Pirate outing 2007 no#3

cougie

If its no wetsuits - if - and i'm as good/bad as swimming as usual - I've got 3 and a half hours to do 56 miles - which SHOULDN'T be a problem...

Thats only 16mph.

JD.

should be easy enough for without multiple punctures, bust wheels etc!

cougie

You'd think ! Even with two stops for my slow flat at Bala - I was still over 19mph. Ho hum !

JD.

that's just disgustingly fast.

JD.

was it two punctures and two new wheels last year?

mellifera

cripes. i've just realised.

with so many of us doing Austria it's inevitable that someone will puncture. Usually it's cougie. But he's going to Germany.

cougie

Three punctures and two new tyres.

Tee hee hee Mellifera - I'm sure Austrian roads are much better !

mellifera

what was wrong with the roads in frankfurt? or Bala?!

JD.

swiss bobby's going isn't he? he punctured last year i think - so perhaps he'll be noble and assume puncture duties this year too.

cougie

Potholes in Frankfurt under puddles. Bala seemed fine tho :-(

Doubly Bionic Ironwolf

TC has it right - 24c in the lake.

Roth website now showing 21.9c.

Cartman

with is the Roth website showing the IMDE lake temp ?

debbo

I've punctured 3 times in my last 3 races.

What are my chances of getting through Austria without one?

M...eldy

change the tyres Wifey?






just not to the ones that Cougs uses

mellifera

hooray! debbo steps up to the mark!

fat buddha

Petal had 3 punctures and 1 tyre change last Sunday so not her - which has kind of got me worried......

but we'll be on new wheels (hed jets) and new tyres

debbo

I will do my best to have the pirate puncture in Austria, but I can't guarantee it.

My bike shop man says he's got some new stuff like gunk, but you put it in if you get a puncture and it inflates the tyre and seals the hole. I'll be getting some of that before I go.

JD.

wifey - that stuff's rubbish. i suppose it's hard to know whether i had some unknown punctures that it fixed. but the time it did puncture and didn't seal the holes weren't big. it just squirted the gunk all over the road and tyre.

Doubly Bionic Ironwolf

Roth has a cutoff of 9:30 after swim and bike for individual competitors and 8:45 for relay racers. Isn't IMDE 10 hours to complete the 1st two elements?

M...eldy

something like that - but it was the midway bike cut off that was the problem at about 5.30/6.00 hrs

Doubly Bionic Ironwolf

5:45 melds, it's engraved on my heart!

F.oggy

Remember the cut off is about 12 km passed half way on the bike.
So you have to the swim and around 97km in 5.45.

F.oggy

That should read,
So you have to do the swim and around 96km of the bike in under 5.45.

M...eldy

I have banished it from my mind ..... perhaps it should have been engraved last year!

Plum

bit of a bugger when you take over 2 1/2 hours to paddle round ;-)

I think it is even further on then that, I seem to remember the stick from the lake being about 17k so the cut off was nearer 100k

cougie

Oh right - I didnt know the cut off was past half way. At least we got better value for money than we thought.

M...eldy

definitely past half way

Plum

I think fom memory my pooter said nearly 100k when the Fraulein hurled herself in front of me

JD.

i posted this last year. on refelction perhaps candy has a point about me being anal :-)

anyway, this year pay attention :-0

From last year:
Given I've been generally fretting about cutoff times I thought I'd post this. I hope I got the maths right. I'm not so good at maths.

Cut Off-Times
From the race literature posted on the IMDE site
[snip]
The following cut off times apply for the different race portions and for the
entire race:
Swim: 2 hours 20 minutes
Swim and 1st loop of Bike Course: 5 hours 45 minutes
Swim and Bike: 10 hours
Swim, Bike and Run: 16 hours after the Racestart
[ end snip ]

So, completing the first loop entails riding 12km to Frankfurt and completing one of the two 84km loops. Therefore swim and 96km (12km + 84km) to be completed in 5 hours 45 minutes.
1 kilometers = 0.621371192 miles
So,96 * 0.62 = 59.6 miles - call it 60 miles - Swim and 60 miles of the bike to be completed in 5 hours 45 minutes.

If you are out of T1 in:
1h 15 then bike at 13.3 mph to meet cutoff at end of lap one.
1h 30 then bike at 14.1 mph to meet cutoff at end of lap one.
1h 45 then bike at 15 mph to meet cutoff at end of lap one.
2hours then bike at 16 mph to meet cutoff at end of lap one.
2h 20 then bike at 17.3 ish mph to meet cutoff at end of lap one.

If we just make the "Swim and 1st loop of Bike Course: 5 hours 45 minutes" cutoff then we have 4h 15minutes to complete the remaining 52 miles of the bike leg at a sedate 12.2 mph.

Looking now at the whole swim and bike leg in 10 hours:
Out of T1 in 1h 15 then you have 8h 45 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of
Out of T1 in 1h 30 then you have 8h 30 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of
Out of T1 in 1h 45 then you have 8h 15 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of
Out of T1 in 2hours then you have 8 hours to complete the bike leg at a speed of
Out of T1 in 2h 20 then you have 7h 40 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of
*BUT of course we won't meet the first lap cutoff times then! So we'll have to pedal faster for the first 60 than we do for the last 52. It's an anti negative splitters course for cutoff cruisers!

JD.

that last bit again:

Looking now at the whole swim and bike leg in 10 hours:
Out of T1 in 1h 15 then you have 8h 45 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of 12.8mph *
Out of T1 in 1h 30 then you have 8h 30 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of 13.2mph *
Out of T1 in 1h 45 then you have 8h 15 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of 13.6mph *
Out of T1 in 2hours then you have 8 hours to complete the bike leg at a speed of 14mph *
Out of T1 in 2h 20 then you have 7h 40 minutes to complete the bike leg at a speed of 16.6mph *
*BUT of course we won't meet the first lap cutoff times then! So we'll have to pedal faster for the first 60 than we do for the last 52. It's an anti negative splitters course for cutoff cruisers!