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Calling ITBS sufferers

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    Had a nap but I'm glad I prepared Sunday lunch last night.
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    X-KKDX-KKD ✭✭✭
    Well done on the 10 miler Steady!! Good going!

    That would be lovely to do FLM with your OH, Grumble. Hope you both get to do it.

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    GTB - did you have a belt to carry your gels. I'm thinking of buying one.
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    Thanks KKD - I hope so too.

    Edwina - no - I put them in the top of my running trousers. I do the same with gloves or hat if I feel too hot when I'm running. I carry a water bottle in my right hand and my mobile phone in my left and I have my mp3 in the back pocket of my running trousers too.....sounds alot but I feel 'lost' if I don't have any of them. (who is GTB)
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    Sorry typo. I tend to shove my gloves in my bra but its really cold enought to wear them down here. I only take a phone when running alone on long runs and I have a arm band for this. I'm thinking of buying a waist pack.
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    Sorry typo. I tend to shove my gloves in my bra but its really cold enougth to wear them down here. I only take a phone when running alone on long runs and I have a arm band for this. I'm thinking of buying a waist pack.
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    X-KKDX-KKD ✭✭✭
    lol at gloves down your bra!! I love it!

    So much for just pull on trainers and go for a run. We've got water, music, gels, phones, gloves, jackets, GPS, timing watch, etc......... :-/
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    Help! I've just developed ITBS and am running FLM in less than 4 weeks - feeling gutted at mo if I can't get to the start line. I stopped at half marathon point in a 20 miler last week and could only walk. I've had classic one side knee pains (left)for last month and put it down to increasing mileage...I should have seen it coming but didn't rest. I am happy that I've done enough training but was still planning a couple more 20m runs but worried will now lose it all in next 4 weeks if do next to no running.

    Am I on the right track with the following? -I've stopped running and won't until pain has gone, am icing outside of knee daily, taking ibuprofen, bought new pair of Kayanos for when I start running again (I guess it might be on FLM day!). Should I see a physio to have a IT massage or rely on some own stretching? - I'm not good at interpreting which stretch is best and not very co-ordinated - which if the best and easiest one to do? I am abroad next week in a hotel with a pool - what's the best exercise to do in the pool that might help?

    I've read most of this thread but guess I want some reassurance I'm on the right track and there aren't any other quick fixes I can try.

    Casino
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    Try some running in the pool BUT you may find this uncomfortable and if so stop. Cycling might be ok, using the cross trainer if you are a member of a gym.

    Given that you are doing the FLM I would try and see a physio as soon as possible.
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    Casino - don't wear your new pair of trainers on FLM day - you need to wear them in first.

    I would recommend a physio as soon as you can but these links will help in the mean time:

    http://www.med.umich.edu/1libr/sma/sma_knee-ili_rex.htm

    http://www.itbs.info/

    In the pool try some pool running and don't do the frog legs if you are doing breast stroke as this can aggrevate.

    One month will not undo all the hard work, you should be tapering in another 10 days anyway so just keep active and give it time to recover with some cross training - good luck:O)
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    Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    unluckly casino...depending on what you read it can be healed in 1 week to months!the 1 week being runners world's own know your injury bit.

    saw a doc today, he agreed physio is the way now. booked NHS physio....may.
    not terrific for my vital work footy amsterdam tournament!

    weighed up a few local sports injury places. £92 was the quote for a private hospital place. politely left the call for that one.

    tried a few others by phone and couldn't actually get through...how bootleg do they sound.

    cut a long sage short have gone with the £92 for an hour place on the premise that it's an appointment tomorrow which is ideal with time rolling on, and in a hospital that will have all facilities if needs be. you get what you pay for i guess.
    no committment to further sessions, and didn't really want to risk the sort of place that can't even answer phone calls, or just some shiester in their own house.

    maybe crazy logic but i curently have the dough to wazz away which i probably won't at any othe stage so here we go!!

    hoping as i got this condiiton by stupidly running in an oldm pair that expert advice on stretching and strengthening coupled with painkillers ice and rest wll pay off for apirl 21..the footy tournie
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    Stevie £92 is way too much - typically expect to pay £30-50 for a physio session
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    Stevie - is this a physio or a specialist sports medical dept at a hosptial e.g. bupa? If it is the latter then I would expect it to cost that and for you to have a full medical with complete advice but as Edwina says - if it is just a physio you are paying way too much
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    Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    it's the latter type thing grumble goat. it's a private spiorts hospital sports injury...appointment!

    oh well..try it once
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    got IT problems, 2nd time in 3 years. Upped my mileage a few weeks ago, much of it on the roads, hence the inevitable.
    went to the physio for a 1hour session yesterday and going again next week. It feels a bit easier today .Had planned to do Lochaber, that has now gone.As Edwina says, £90 is high, paid £35 for 1 hour.
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    Thank you all for the tips.

    I am working in London at moment and walking from hotel to work in new Kayanos to break them in - about hour a day walking. Although dull pain is there throughout day I guess walking 40 mins twice a day is OK for time being and won't make ITB worse?

    Bit the bullet and also seeing a physio tonight in the West End. Hope he can help.
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    Stevie - good luck with your appointment - thoses guys are meant to be brilliant for sorting things out - and at £95 they should be.Could you let us know how it goes please?

    Casino - I would be tempted to do the leg crossed over stretch as many times as you can during the day to help with the walking, if your muscles are warm from walking it is the ideal time to stretch -

    Sodding hills - exactly!! lol
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    Another good one for the TFL is to sit down on the floor, spread your legs (keep them straight), turn the foot on your affected side in you should feel it in the hip, after 30 seconds turn the foot outwards and hold for 30 seconds, then repeaton the other side.

    If you didn't already know the TFL is a muscle on the hip and the ITB is basically an extension of this muscle. The IYB is actually a tendon so most ITB stretches tend to focus on the muscles surrounding the tendons e.g. quads, hamstrings, hips, glutes etc.

    GTG does her stretches whilst ironing!!!!
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    Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    will do grumbles.

    just found out i can claim £85 of it back through company!! though i may have to get a doc note, but thats £20 generally.

    Since i stiopped doing a shoddy version of the ITBS stretch it doesn't ache to walk on now! maybe i've been making it worse!

    see how it goes, 3 til 4 and will report back.
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    Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    just back...thoroughly checked knee and around it...could find nothing wrong. great in one way...expensive in another.


    a mixture of not recovering fully froma thigh tear, and a past weak right ankle contributing.

    had also been doing a stretch wrong! had been twistinf the knee on the ITBS stretch rather than bending into it.

    on painkillers which mite be masking it, so im coming off them now.

    apart from that rest and icing and cycling on sttationary bike for at least a week. possibly week and half and then try again!!


    expensive , though can claim off company, but peace of mind and expert tips on next day appointment.Praying that this works now!
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    Stevie - not sure whether to say well done and good luck in a week or so, or, you were ripped of mate and would have been as well going to a physio -but if you can claim most of it back then it isn't so bad. Hope you get back to running soon. I used cycling quite a lot and pushed hard to get my cv up and it seemed to work well. Fingers crossed for you.
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    Ah just found my injury thread, or at least my symptoms seem to match. quick bit of advice, i tend to get the pain after i have been running 30 minutes, so do i run 30mins and stop, or do i need to not run alotogether for a bit?

    knee pain once there is worse running but goes off quickly.

    or should i cycle for a while?

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    Hello, After months of physio and still not much improvement I saw a Consultant yesterday. He said that my left ITB is actually more tighter than the one I am having problems with!

    But I do have a lot of fluid around my right knee which I shouldn't have even if I did have ITBS. So I have now got an MRI Scan and X Ray booked for next Tuesday for more investigation. :-)
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    Deborah - poor you - at least you are getting to the bottom of the problem - good luck for next week.
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    X-KKDX-KKD ✭✭✭
    Deborah at least things seem to be moving forward now.

    How did you get to see a consultant? I'm beginning to think I've got more going on in my knee than ITBFS but don't know who to see and how to go about it.
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    KKD -I went to my doctors and got referred but it took a month for an appointment and I have my MRI scan next week which is roughly 4 months later.
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    KKD, Like Grumblethegoat said you need to get a referral from your doctor. Mine is happening alot quicker because I am doing it through my work medical insurance.
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    Flateric - my physio advised me to stop running and cycling regardless of how quickly the pain kicked in - instead I was told to swim(not breaststroke) and do strenghtening exercises. Might be worth a trip to a physio though
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    I was told to cycle unless it hurt, it worked well because it kept my cv up - I did a lot of hills and pedalled hard - they say that cycling is 1/4 of what what you would get out of running so a 12 mile cycle is like a 3 mile run.
    I would do the exercises o here but definitely find a physio - one that someone else recommends would be good.
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    Stevie  GStevie G ✭✭✭✭
    doh, stopped painkillers, can now feel the original injury the torn thigh muscle/groin strain!

    doh.

    anyone know if cycling is ok on a groin strain?

    or am i leaving to another thread!

    if so good luck with everyone's knees
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