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P&D spring marathon 2017
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Ramjet - Sounds like everything went pretty much perfectly. Great to get that sub 3 time.
ML84 - Awesome running. You say it got a bit hard work at 19/20 miles but holding for a 1 min positive split is great work.
NE - Great run. Looking forward to the report.
Cheers HA77. I must admit when I went through halfway I wondered how the hell I could run another to get a pb. I basically just tried to run the last 10k at sub 6 which bloody hurt. Haha
Anyway this is what I think my points are:
JCG - very tense report. Massive congratulations for getting the GFA! Must have been so hard without having the splits to monitor, very impressive. See you at the green start in London in 3 weeks.
Ramjet - I've been showing some mates your pacing, absolutely perfect. One of the best executed races I've ever seen. Thoroughly deserved, you'll have that sub-3 with you for life! Congrats mate.
ML - just wow. ridiculous.
NE - sounds like you had a great day, look forward to the report.
Legs feel great this morning. All this sandbagging captain chat - I haven't given you a target time for London yet..
Great running Manchester crew, some brilliant times but more impressive is the bang on pacing. Hope everyone is feeling ok today.
JB sub 3:45 was your declared target & gets you the record. I guess you'll be revising that downwards even with the fancy dress encumbrance.
Another good result for Ramjet, unfortunately not so good for the game's creator.
I calculated the SBB based on difference between runners predicted time and actual time. Let me know if that's wrong NE.
Unbelievably good pacing from Ramjet and ML84, very impressive stuff.
Great write up from JCG and congratulations for getting GFA.
Gutsy run from Mark carrying an injury.
Glad you got to enjoy the event so much Northender.
Sad to have missed out on the FML, but if my fantasy football predictions are anything to go by, it was probably for the best.
Ramjet - that is such a perfectly run race you would think you were the 3 hour pacer. Well done on a sweet sub 3.
JCG - bang on prediction as well and even more impressive to do it on feel. Pressures off for London!
NE - happy that you got such a great time despite your build up, really pulled it out on the day.
MarkH - that's balls of steel to PB when you're hamstring goes so early! You must have already been in sub 2:55 shape so awesome run in the circumstances.
SteveMac - another one to smash your target. Well done on a great run.
ML84 - wow that is just plain fast. Congrats on a fantastic PB.
And loved reading all your reports, it really brings to life how hard it gets in the latter stages but also the joys of hitting your targets.
And not to forget Joe and Tom on 2 impressive training runs, there definitely must have been something in the air this weekend.
Ramjet – excellent pacing and a what a difference to last spring’s marathon!! Well done!
ML – amazingly impressive running and those splits are just brilliant. Well-paced indeed!
NE – great results given how tough your run up to the marathon has been with limited training and glad you enjoyed it.
JCG – that’s great running with no live splits to guide you. Congratulations on a well deserved GFA.
Mark – I can’t imagine running that far with a dodgy hamstring. That must have been tough mentally so massive kudos for that
Amazing run ML84, sounds like it wasn't a good idea to aim for sub 2.30 as the second half was so tough. My FML has gone down in flames now
NE - Glad you enjoyed it. After you mentioned your recent mileages I was ever so slightly apprehensive on your behalf. You can't keep a good marathoner down it seems.
Well done Manchester Racers..
Top Pacing JCG and everyone coming in on target, Top effort for sub 3 there Ramjet!
.... Sets the pace for Brighton next week!!!! Eek
Edit: Ramjet chose ML84 as SBC not JCG so gets nul points for SBB. Still stays top though.
AlanB - You were thinking of running a later spring marathon like Edinburgh? Did you decide what you're doing yet?
Solid 11 mile progression run today. Probably the last LTish run of the schedule.
I don't seem to see your training on the strava group, do you keep it private or have you just blocked me? Sounds like a good session though!
I'm also in awe of these detailed run reports - even with Strava data everything from about mile 3 is a hazy blur!
The only thing I can remember is looking at my watch as I was beginning to tire at 21 miles, seeing 2:30 and thinking, 'No problem. Well on track for my first sub 3.'
A minute or so later I realised that this in fact meant smashing out sub 6:00s all the way to the end and even then it being very tight. This completely confused me and caused no small amount of panic - I'd been hitting 6:42s fairly consistently for the first 21 miles, so didn't really know what had happened or how I'd got myself into this position!
After a moment of panic, I glanced at my watch again and saw that it was 2:21 and I'd completely misread it! Cue huge amounts of relief and double checking pace / how much I could afford to slow down and then back to the blurry haze until I finally crossed the line in 2:57:21.
Apart from that, everything went pretty much to plan (P&D 55-70 with target pace 6:45s). Tired massively in the last few miles, but still came in with a 13 min pb, so well chuffed!
It's funny the bits that you remember and the things that you can't!
Great training runs on here too! Thanks to anyone who tracked/spotted my result, after blowing up at mile 20 in Berlin I sort of sandbagged on this thread and went for a sub 3:15 target from the start, but really wanted a sub 3:10....managed 3:10:15 on the day for a 13 minute PB....report to follow.
Plan was to run at 3:10 pace (7:15 min miles), same pace as Berlin. Clocked off the first 3 miles at 7:14/7:01/7:07 slightly too fast but was feeling comfortable, spotted my GF at mile 3 and continued on. Next 3 miles went by in 7:11/7:10/7:10 and went through 10k in 44:33, slightly faster than the 45 minutes I had targetted, but not too worried. Next few miles clocked by 7:18/7:02/7:15/7:09 to arrive at the 10 mile point feeling like I'm running well. Spotted my GF at mile 12 when she asked how I felt and I waved and said great, next miles came in at 7:15/7:07/7:08 and I went through HM distance in 1:34:06 slightly ahead of my planned 1:35.
Around mile 12 I started running with a guy called John who was also targetting 3:10, so we ran together and clocked over the next few miles in 7:14/7:19/7:14/7:12/7:16/7:10/7:12 to hit the 20 mile point in around 2:24 about a minute ahead of plan and 3 minutes faster than Berlin, but also feeling in a much better place than Berlin.
Ticked off miles 21 and 22 in 7:09/7:17 while running with John, but then I started to drop off the pace while John was getting stronger, so he ran on ahead and I focused on just moving forward and ticked off the next 2 miles in 7:22/7:26 to get through 24 miles. I knew I was running below 3:10 pace at this point, but as I had gone slightly faster in the first half knew I might be close to target time but couldn't work anything out!! It was getting painful now and it felt like I was slowing a lot but I kept moving and caught more runners who had slowed a lot more than I had and clocked the next 2 miles in 7:32/7:29 and passed the 26 mile marker.
By this point my feet were killing me and I just needed to finish so put in a sprint finish and passed a few more runners coming into the finish, my GF shouted my name at this point but I didn't spot her as I was just focused on finishing the race, crossed the finish line and stopped my watch to see 3:10:25, I secretly hoped that I had started my watch 26 seconds early!!
Collected my finishers bag and medal and walked/hobbled to the meeting area to meet up with GF who told me my official time was 3:10:15 for a 13 minute PB, a bit disappointed I didn't dip under 3:10 but very pleased that the run went well and I smashed my PB. I did tell the GF after I finished that I wasn't going to race another marathon, but I really want to dip under that 3:10 barrier!!
Overall a great day, nice weather, good course and great support!
Well done SteveMac. Could easily have slipped away but you dug in when clearly it was uncomfortable, will hopefully take that inspiration with me for Sunday in Brighton.
DPJ - Maths at 21miles its never going to be easy so good job it was just miss-reading your watch. Odd that you and Steve both managed 13m pb's, think I would take that if it was offered to me at the moment even though I had set out hoping for more.
SteveMac - great run and great PB time as well. Sounds like you really toughed it out to stay on track for a 3:10.
Sounds like you enjoyed your sub 3:30 as well NE, looking forward to the full report.
Once again it it looks like the P&D plan is getting people to some awesome PBs. I've only been at my club for 4 weeks and I think I've recommended the book to nearly everyone I've spoken to.
6miles with 8x100m in a pair of Adidas response boost that I picked up in TKMAXX for £35. So far so good.
ML84 - 18th place is amazing and great pacing as well.
NE - glad you enjoyed it. Hard not to with so much support on the course.
BR - glad my splits have inspired you! I am tempted to print them out and frame them I must admit!
It is partly because Manchester is such a flat course. On a normal course you'd have to allow a few slower miles where the hills are. I'll be surprised if I can ever pace a marathon like that again! All the splits were in the 6:46 - 6:56 range. ML's splits were almost as consistent actually.
HA - thanks for doing the scores. I wasn't expecting to be top! I thought I had given everyone too many SBC points for predicting 3:05.
DPJ - well done on smashing through the 3:00 barrier. Glad P&D worked for you.
Steve - well done on a huge PB. And a nice doable sub 3:10 target for next time.
Just to show that not everything went to plan yesterday, I would recommend people empty their guts ASAP after the marathon as well as before it. When runner's diarrhoea strikes and you are nowhere near a toilet it is extremely awkward.
Here's what the table looks like now, until we find another mistake:
Another busy day at work then HA?
9 miles with a few strides for me this morning.
DP - congrats on the first sub 3, it's always a special one. mental maths is always difficult during a marathon.
Nice intervals Millsy and decent progression run HA.
Had a really promising interval session this morning on pretty knackered legs from Sunday. 8x800m averaging 2.42 (5.28mm) in the local park. Definitely held something back though. Fitness seems to be coming around at just the right time.