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2.59.54 chip time!
I'll have a a bit of a read back - any particular highlights recently?
yes, Stevie g popped in and a few of us had a conversation about bowel habits and running. You'll like that.
Congratulations on the sub 3 DT. That's a great run, I can imagine it was painful though, being so close to your target.
The weather was awful here for Birmingham Half. With a return to mileage after Hull marathon, I took advantage of the more reasonable wet weather to have a parkrun on Saturday at marathon effort (19.15).
The half was cold, wet and utterly miserable. I had some GI misfortune, possibly care of a post parkrun cafe breakfast that kept me up through the night and a solid breakfast wasn't possible pre-race. I drank lots of sugary tea instead. I thought it was out of my system but once the race had started and my bladder started bouncing around it was a different story and for the first time in a race I had to stop for a pee. Luckily the heavy rain meant the only onlookers were those in the race. I finished eventually in 1.19.40-ish for a subdued effort. I felt very tired over the last couple of miles, which was to be expected. I am very much looking forward to a rest day today.
Felt for you when it was so hot at London but rather than destroying yourself you ran sensibly and turned it into a positive experience and now you get to reap the rewards.
Look forward to reading about the last half mile in the race report and how much roaring you had to do for those crucial 5 seconds.
WELL DONE!!
Also how is McFlooze's knee?
I ran parkrun in the rain on Saturday morning (first run for 5 months). I started off what seemed ridiculously easy and just kept it at that pace - still mopped up loads of people in laps 2 and 3 who can't pace properly despite doing it every week but by the last quarter of a mile my legs had died on me.
24:30 but the foot pain has come back since so still crocked (made me feel more motivated to get cycling at the gym though - this week's focus).
Thanks Mr V. Did you do the 10 miler?
Well done on the parkrun, Skinny. Shame the foot issue has swiftly returned. I have learnt to start sensibly in all my races now. Parkrun I am often in about 15-20th place after 400m yet often end up in the top 5.
Thanks, it was a tough decision to change the goal at London and was disappointing to get to that point and have to do so. I'll do a report when I can this week. It was pretty edgy from about mile 3, just the further in I got the emphasis shifted.
Muddy, well one on the Brum half. What was the new route like? Reasonably flat?
DT - The course is mostly the same, but runs in reverse compared to the old Broad Street finish route so you don't have the massive hill of St James Rd all in one go at the end, but instead the 1st kilometre and last kilometre are up hill, the section up to the mosque is now reversed so that's a tough uphill. and then the usual hills around Bournville and Selly Oak. I think the previous iteration of the route is quicker but haven't been back to compare the two yet. I know I'm in decent shape as Strava went bonkers with me breaking my segment records around the course - it was just a shame to fizzle out towards the end. I went through 10k in 37.22 feeling comfortable and that included the 30 second loss to the pitstop ! Also, my watch made it long at 13.2 and I saw a few 13.3s in the Strava 'You ran with' lists.
Edit: Compared last year's course/run to this year. Pretty much same elevation gain. 1.24:00 last year for 154 bpm, and 1.19.35 officially this year, also for 154 bpm. So obviously, I'm in good nick right now.
DT old son, you've come along way from the banana eating, camping out in toilets man we all came to know and love.
Perfectly timed sub 3 there, never in doubt slightly older son
Where have the years gone!
I have popped my race report on the 3.15 thread. I didn't see the point copy and pasting it in various places.
Stevie, yes I do still think back to those days with a degree of fondness, but like anything else in life we all have to move and improve systems to get better and leave the old days behind.
Quick recap of the last 12 months for McF and me:
You may recall did a couple of ultras last Autumn, then decided to have a bit of time out to let a niggle in my foot sort itself out. Well the foot niggle hasn't sorted itself out but I've decided to have a go at running again; taking a low mileage, quality plus cross training approach. so, for the last few months I've been doing ~3 crossfit sessions per week, plus one or two quality runs, plus an occasional easy jog. I'm really enjoying the crossfit, so although I would quite like to get back into running 'properly' I reluctant to give that up, so can't see myself upping the mileage much in the near future. Sights are on the coming cross country season - though I've handed over the captain's armband (hallelujah). I also have number for Telford 10k in December (elite race lol) - that will be interesting.
McF was all set to have an op on her knee. Then for some reason, I forget exactly, she was examined by a different consultant. He was a keen runner, skier etc etc and he advised her not to have the op, but just go out and run and ski and whatever and see how it holds up. She can't do any more damage, he says. So, so she's been trying to get back into it, but she's put on a bit of weight and working fultime again, so is probably not doing as much, or as quickly, as she would like. She entered the Manchester Marathon 2019, so she needs to get her skates on, so to speak.
Really pleased to see the thread is still going - all hail Skinny.
You must be getting quite hench with the crossfit, Lou!!
Interesting on fatigue winning rather than lack of aerobic strength as you’ve certainly been diligent on the long runs ... far more than me ... and mid week longs. Would you do anything different in taper now, knowing how it turned out ? I know for me an all out half two weeks out was unsatisfactory.
Telford should be a good experience Lou ... but hope we don’t get similar weather to last year - I’m doing the 10 mile pudding run that same day, but otherwise would have liked to have done it myself. Good luck to McF on the comeback - seen some encouraging activity on Strava.
Each cycle I try and bring something new to the party and this time I wonder whether I should be looking at more specific strength work regime to help with leg fatigue late on. I can't fit in any more running.
Muddy - congratulations on the PB. Very descriptive, humorous review.
I think I saw Tommy in Auckland a few weeks ago at a Parkrun. I saw a face I recognised, couldn’t think from where, and, so didn’t say hello. It may have been him at the cafe but Tommy was there according to Strava. We exchanged a few messages. He is right about Auckland; it’s not got a lot of flat parts.
I lurk every now and then on here. It’s good to see it’s still going and attracting new posters.
May I ask what the unresolved foot niggle is - I have a specific long term interest
Well done on becoming a gym bunny - I've really struggled to commit to that.
Anyhow I'm off to a gym tonight to start my indoor cycling effort - I did a bit a couple of months ago and got to 18.83 miles in an hour from about 16 when I started so will probably try and target 25 (20 first obviously) and see if that can get me excited about exercise again.
Hi to McFlooze and sorry to hear she has had to go back to full time work (just my silly joke I'm sure she loves it) - hope she manages to find the time to get back into the running - at least she is doing a lot more than me and I'm sure she will be doing more training than a lot of people entered in Manchester Marathon 2019!
Hmmm - it is still going but it should be all hail Muddy and DT - I'm an occasional visitor (as are most people now) and I stopped the TTT over a year ago now - it's comforting though that when a landmark event happens everyone is still out there somewhere ready with their congratulations.
DT - awesome stuff and thoroughly deserved. Great report to go with it. What's next for you?
Lou - good to see you back. Enjoy XC season, I'm planning on doing the Midlands XC at Leamington in late January, which I believe has the infamous ditch crossing? Are you planning on being there? Muddy/DT likewise?
Skinny - sorry to hear that your foot is still giving you grief. Good luck with the cycling, a lot of the good runners (in particular fell runners) seem to do a lot of cycling to supplement their running.
RAH - shame we didn't get to catch up in person at parkrun.
I ran in the slightly less bonkers 5K last night. It was a bit bloody windy but that's par for the course in Auckland. Anyway, the first mile was typically chaotic with people starting insanely fast and then fading rapidly. The second mile, which includes the most exposed part of the course and having to come to a dead stop to run round a cone, I managed to get on the back of a small group which helped. In the final mile the group split up and it was a bit of a solo battle back into the wind, I managed to minimise the slowdown pretty well. Although coming back towards the finish we ended up running in the opposite direction to a couple of very large running groups which wasn't ideal on a fairly narrow path. Anyway, I finished in 19:01, a 25 second improvement on last week and getting closer to where I was earlier this year (18:35). Hopefully a couple more weeks of consistent running will bring me back to that or at least somewhere near.
Thanks, Tommy. Not much in the immediate term, though I am hoping to get a Brass Monkey place for January so that will give me some focus over mid November onwards.
I hoper to get some xc in, however it seems to be getting harder and harder to take the time out with all our family commitments.
I saw a guy (or maybe even 2) in your club vest on sunday. I think he was a bit behind me at the early switchback.
Sounds like you are making some progress there again then.
Thanks, David.
Hi Richard, shame you and Tommy didn't bump into each other.
I apologise for the self-indulgent posts. I'm after a few pointers on whether or not I'm on the right track training wise, specifically a quality session I've just completed. The week so far looks like this:
Monday - 8m easy (8:09mm average)
Tuesday - Rest
Wednesday - 2m WU, 3m @ 7:09, 7:02 and 6:58, 2m cooldown
I wanted to get the quality miles at 7:15 but ended up going a bit faster. It was tough and whilst I was grateful to slow to a trot come mile 6 I felt as though I perhaps had another half a mile in me at that pace. I don't know whether this will be detrimental to the rest of this week's training or not. We'll see. My main goal as you guys know is the LLHM at the end of March. I'd like to get round in 1:35.
For the rest of the week I had something like this planned:
Thursday - 5m easy
Friday - 4m with strides
Saturday - 10m easy
Sunday - Rest (off on honeymoon!)
Total weekly mileage = 34
I think my main concern is that I'm struggling to form a decent weekly plan with only 4 training sessions. I have the time for 5 but would have to be sensible about my 'easy' pace.
Would welcome any thoughts on the above.
Thanks as always for any help.
David
Good luck with getting the Brass Monkey place, I tried a couple of years ago and the website crashed within seconds of them going on sale.
Yes there was quite a few from my club at York. Our first guy broke his PB by about 10 minutes to finish in 2:49, next was a guy who finished in 3:07 (perhaps who you saw) and then a bunch between 3:25 and 3:30. Another chap, who hadn't done much training, thought it would be a good idea to go for Sub 3 in his first marathon. He went through halfway in 1:26 (a minute quicker than his HM PB) and then ground to a halt at 18 miles for a DNF. Whoops!
David, I'd say if you can fit another run in of whatever length then go for it. Just make sure you run it easy, such that you can hit the proper paces when it comes to doing your quality session.