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Only in as much as I enjoyed the run and felt less stressed TR. Nothing is doing much for my confidence at the minute.
LMH - I cannot any offer any sensible advice to an 80/60/40 taper other than it looks like a lot to me, but then it would. does 40 include race?
WTGY - I am abig fan of dialling into MP, also a big fan of marathon brain training for the day. Its the top 2 inches that brings success, to use rugby parlance.
Went to the docs today and had an ECG. Nothing to report, just need a bit of rest apparently. Not very good at that.
There you go then Joe, a few days doing nothing more than going for a nice walk with Katie and hopefully you'll bounce back fresher and raring to go.
LMH - you are a tough act to please. The other day you were worried about weather ruining your training, yet you run 22m anyway. And now you are back to worrying about training pace. Unless you track pace vs HR its wasted worry beads. Focus on the Brass Monkey virtual PB. When it gets to vlm you can do no better than your best on the day performance. Dont get too result focussed (over process).
Joe - your docs are good, mine work on the principle that by the time you eventually get to see them in some weeks time, you have either croaked it or got better. Take a couple of easy days, then carry on as you had planned if you feel ok. Just dont do more than the last few weeks.
TR, i did that start in 2014. It's a pleasant and smooth trip by park and ride to Preston Park, nice stroll about in the park then a pleasant walk to Withdean. I found it very relaxing. I did the Preston start year before but that loops back uphill at the start (not really what you want at the start of a mara) and goes around the park before heading to the seafront whereas the fast start is all down hill to the seafront. Withdean is the way to go IMO.
Pretty flat and very well supported around the finish / half way area which is near the pier. Slightly less so at the extremities as you'd expect but still decent. It's a great finish as well, crowds building as you come off the seafront and a crescendo of noise in the last mile with a very welcome gentle downhill to the finish.
The only problem could be the wind if it's an easterly as that isn't fun from the power station along the seafront .... i've been there !! Westerly and you can do a bit of drafting going out to share it but there likely won't be much help at sub-3 pace coming back and it's very exposed. Hopefully it will be a calm day.
Thanks Wardi. If I manage the miles this week I might cut back a bit next. Your last week is much bigger than mime is usually though - how do you break that down or does it vary?
4m easy today, i found LMHs wind and rain, might be good practice for 10 days time. Will be somewhere between 45 and 50m this week.
Mace - very pleased to hear it's downhill for the first mile from the fast start - every little helps and didn't enjoy the hilly start in 2010.
15 x 1min pushes with the club last night (5:30 pace); easy 6m this morning.
WTGY - Stops me from shilly-shalling.
8m last night with my Brighton-bound running pal, incl. 6*800m, c5.35 mm pace. Pleased with those as training has not included many quality sessions. Just one tough sess to go now, 5m fast on Sunday and then rest/ start watching 'Allo Allo' to perfect my French.
Good question. Yes for sure I reference it quite a lot these days, to rein in over-exuberance mainly. I will also try and judge whether it feels too hard on my legs in the early miles. Overall my sustainable and max HR seem to be getting higher, if anything, rather than lower with age, so I am recalibrating what is "normal" with each race.
I just need to run ~10K this evening to make my 100M in 5d again, though a lot of that has been at 9 m/M or worse, so it's all a bit of an experiment. After my glorious 2d off I'll probably try my big reps/tempo session (and extend it to a marathon) on Sunday; my legs need to acclimatise to at least a little speed.
Menn - some running is better than no running.
CW - so if the legs feel the pace but the HR is ok you wind it back? And vice versa?
I have an mot planned at the phys tonight, to free up a bit of back issue ive had for a while, and make sure my hammys are clear. Hopefully I'll be cleared for take off.
Menn - Good news. Pain is certaintly anything more than 2m on a treadie.
CW - Am sure you will run a blinder again this year.
Capt. Hans Geering: Do you not see that if you kill him with the pill from the till by making with it the drug in the jug, then you need not light the candle with the handle on the gateau from the chateau!
René: Simple plans are always the best.
Officer Crabtree: My lips are soiled.
LSR pace is usually the predictor of my MP TR. Hope the physio sorts you out.
How are all the niggles OuchOuch?
LMH - yes i understood. But that would mean aiming lower at vlm than recent maras because of slower training numbers instead of being in PB shape over 1/2? Or are you doing a timed 10m type section of mp in a target long run?
5 at 6.40 on tready, 30 min x trainer intervals and a 2 mile warm down with only minor issues - in fact biggest issue was bloody fly zoom fly knits which really play havoc with the balls of my feet. After Valencia I had no skin on my left foot and suffer from metatarsalgia on hard runs ever since. Winge Winge..
Bin them Mennania!
TR - I hope your Dad is continuing to improve.
OO - you can scratch me from Manchester on the list.
Menn - I'm not sold on the zoom fly either, though I've had constant ball of the feet pain on and off for years now. My biggest issue with them is around the Achilles. I need to try them on track to see if they feel different/better on there.
So...... as above, I'm a dns for Manchester, but I'm happy about it. I've finally got a diagnosis for my IBS, and, well, everything....... All the anaemia issues over the years, long periods of fatigue, bruising (used to have purpura as a kid but that was negative when they retested for it), random recurring pains (turns out they're not so random - I tick 17 of the 18 trigger points for it, when apparently 11 is sufficient for a diagnosis), and so on.... It turns out I have fibromyalgia.
As strange as it sounds I'm bloody delighted because 1) I actually have an answer, and 2) it's manageable. The best thing is that exercise is one of the best things to manage it and reduce the symptoms, so I've been told that even if I'm tired to try jog or walk.
My main challenge is going to be reducing how much I try to do and allocating my efforts accordingly (the likelihood is that a hectic work period, combined with house stuff, study, and just general day to day running around, is what has triggered the struggles over the last 5-6 months).
TT - i am happy at your delight then. You are now on the road to being able to manage it, seeing as you now know what you are managing.
Glad that today isnt B day, it was windy early doors. 4m easy. 12 tomorrow will give me 46 for the week. Will soon be time to go collect my number.
Glad to hear you've got an affirmative diagnosis TT - so frustrating not knowing.
I need to give a very belated appreciation to you all for your positive comments a couple of weeks back when I posted about my injury, including @TR @Jooligan @Wardi @Little M.iss Happy @SJ @Padams @Mennania thank you 😊 😊
I went half-way into a bit of a hole when my physio eventually suggested it might be a hip stress fracture and sent me for an MRI, and then a work project deadline swallowed the rest of me! So little running recently...
But I was finally diagnosed with only a minor hip impingement after the MRI. The physio could give the exact corrective exercises and I have eased myself back into running, and thanks to that (and me literally working my butt off for an hour every night on glutes stretching and strengthening in front of the TV) I am running nearly pain-free again. Woo hoo! Fingers crossed recovery continues but so far it’s been very positive. Aiming to do 16-18 miles on Sunday and go up from there and don’t feel my pace has been totally wrecked by a lack of any speedwork for all of March.
I am withdrawing from Brighton. I could do it but not confident I could get a Boston qualifying time with no long run since end-Feb. Quite gutted about that, but it’s the right call overall. (Sad, didn’t-do-the-time-he-wanted Green One is not a fun person to be around).
Instead, looking at the rock and roll marathon in Liverpool. It’s not a pancake, but seems reasonably flat? Anyone else done it? (It was that or Worcester but the latter I am worried there would not be enough running 2:50-3hr to keep up with. and looks much more rolling).
@TT – knowing a little bit from last month about the feeling of actually getting a proper diagnosis, I do understand your delight!
@Menn – hope your recovery continues, and the ‘minor issues’ continue to dissipate.
I'm aching a lot, so I think the taper is in full effect. might go and do a little run this afternoon
7th April - Manchester.. SJ, WTGY #1595 A >2.59 B >3.04 C >strong run and enjoy it
TgO - good news that you are running again, shame about Brighton, can you defer it, and use it next year ? I might be there then too.
WTG - all the best. I think if you make target C your main target then target A might happen. My Brighton aims are to run all the way (as against being stopped by cramp multiple times as per abo), have a well controlled strong run and run sub3. The first 2 should help the 3rd.