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Good luck DD people!
Big G - I've done a couple of track 5Ks with my club and I find it harder than running on roads or parkruns (though that is probably because I'm always been the slowest and have been at the back on my own - it's much easier when there are people to latch onto or pass). It's an experience, though.
I've been trying to get my fitness back - three more runs and some elliptical in the gym (the last one of those was an hour, which is basically an eternity on one of those infernal contraptions). Runs were 3, 4 and 6 miles. I still feel fatigued (heavy legs and working much harder to do 11 minute miles than I should be) so wondering if there is actually something wrong with my heart or if it's some sort of post infection or antibiotic-induced fatigue. Sore throat has gone anyway, so there's that.
Shades, I am starting to consider getting a proper HRM and wondered if you had any recommendations? To be fair, my watch has been pretty consistent until now (looking back at older runs I'm almost always around 150s for a normal run) but since it's jumped around 20bpm I'm not sure if the watch is at fault or if there's actually something wrong with me.
Sorry to hear you're having a hard time of it still
Cal - you're amazing to do an hour on the elliptical, I doubt I'd last 5 minutes.
Is there a possibility you've had Covid, with almost no symptoms? I've seen from other runners that even if they've had Covid very lightly, it's taken some of them a long time to get back to training and feeling 100% again.
I think you have the same Garmin as I do Forerunner 45, and I've paired it easily with my old Garmin HRM from my old 305 but I'm currently using this one, the Garmin Run HRM, it's very light and comfy to wear, just tuck it under the band of sports bra.
Well first time in 20 odd years and certainly since I've had Seat cars, my car wouldn't start this morning. It was a bit sticky last week, but today it turned over once and died before it could fire up. Luckily I have AA cover so I'll call them out later when I get back from the gym or maybe tomorrow. I walked down to Aldi and then walked round the store only remembering I had to carry all the stuff home when I got to the milk. Then it rained on the walk home but not too bad, a good work out carrying shopping.
I often do my bigger shop up at Lidl in Streatham so I usually walk back a mile with a backpack full of milk cartons and tins. Makes my neck ache a bit but it's strength training eh?
Cal -I suppose you can't have an antibody test now as you'd have antibodies as a result of the vaccination.
I just carried 8 pints of milk from the local shop on my way home from the gym, that was heavy enough. But I suppose you do get used to having to lug all the shopping home.
I've just watched the lunchtime news and 4 day bank holiday announced for next June. Last time we had an extra BH in June the date of DD was changed to the following week so that may happen next year too.
Might mean I can go and do Cork marathon again. 😄
Just curious. I never look at HR during DD but afterwards I see that it's the closest I ever get to max HR. 😢
Big G-What time do you think to get to registration? I'm thinking about 8.30 or is that too early?
Shades, I wasn't going to take my HRM, mainly because the strap rubs if I'm really sweaty. (I accidentally wrote "sweary" initially, which I expect I will be at some pointon Saturday....).
Hopefully you'll get the car sorted soon. I think some haven't really done enough training at Trotters, but probably have done the best they can in the circumstances. I did notice a couple got late entries, but hadn't really done much build up so are basically winging it
I did an hour on Zwift a bit earlier and then it's Trotters tonight.
Big G - if you've got some Bodyglide or similar, that should stop the chaffing if you want to wear it
Ha ha at the sweary 😄 you won't be the only one. One year I passed a Trotter (male) and he was crying, I don't think he realised how tough it can be.
Ian/Big G - don't dwell on less than perfect preparation for DD, it's your head that will get you round.
I've cancelled the gym tomorrow and instead will wait for the AA.
6 miles today, nicer morning, not so humid as yesterday. So good for running early morning at this time of year. Ankle a bit sore today on road with camber. No wildlife to speak of except randomly a pair of boxer shorts abandoned in the middle of a road, no houses round there.
I was running with a chap who is a good runner, but the most he's ever ran is 18-miles. He's shitting himself, quite frankly. We were all saying to him "Oh, you'll be fine", or "Get to the marathon point and walk the rest", etc etc etc, but nothing was particularly helping. He was very keen to know precisely where things were on the course, which I was no use for as I don't really know myself! We were trying to gee him up but he said his head was all over the place and I think he's regretting some of his life choices
Yes, it was a nice run out. Humid though. I wasn't able to stay for food unfortunately, but I'm glad I went over.
Been out with the dog for a walk first thing and it feels a bit cooler and less humid today compared to yesterday.
I suppose lack of marathons this year is probably why that runner has only done 18 miles in training. He's going to hurt but if he's determined he'll finish OK. I remember a few years ago talking to a runner at the prize giving at DD and he admitted he'd never run a marathon, or anywhere close to the distance, if the previous RO had known that he wouldn't have been allowed to run, he got round but he was suffering afterwards.
That's a lot of first timers this year, I expect quite a few are the Running Forever club runners. Maybe those of us that have done it before are more likely to recognise that we haven't done the training/racing/prep or are mildly injured and realise that a DNS is the sensible route.
I'd forgotten about the non binary runner, we'd discussed that before.
Was your sports masseur able to identify what the problem with your glute might be?
Don't worry I'll remind you when DD entries open just in case you fancy it next year.
Rcouture - a dull ache doesn't seem so bad, hopefully that will heal quickly. Your massage should be less painful next week as your legs will have no DOMS left to hurt.
Entries for DD usually sell out within a couple of hours, only 260 places, but there's an active transfer list. Big G will tell us when entries will be opening, as it's his club that organise the race.
Cal - no, you don't need a phone, just plug into PC as you do now. You just sync the HRM when you get it with the watch, easy to do and switch off the wrist HR option on the watch and that's it.
Well I phoned the AA and despite the fact they're really busy, I'm safe at home, not on a dangerous or busy road and I'm not a welfare case they arrived in less than 30 minutes. Nice guy, he's a runner and we've both run a few of the same races. New battery fitted and cheaper than price quoted by my garage yesterday. So all sorted.
I thought Ian would never forgive me for cajoling him into running in 2019, but he's back for another go this year.
I'm especially impressed with the AA as this is the free cover I have from my Seat dealer.
Shades-Good news on the car.
Well the news about the lack of green list has really ruined my mood today,I cannot understand the logic,Malta has barely any cases,great vaccination rates,no variants(as far as I can tell) yet its safer for me to be in a store with 30k people a week in than a week outdoors in the sun.This has annoyed me more than pretty much anything the last year,I got the reasoning behind a lot of the other stuff,even If I disagreed,but this I don't. Oh and I'm fully vaccinated so the chances of me getting or passing it on are small anyway.
Rant over,now to concentrate on packing for the weekend.
Pace will be aimed around 8.15-30 for the 2% flat and same effort for downs,I will walk uphills when my effort seems too high or HR goes above 155.
That is the plan,whether I stick to it or it works is another matter.
I think you'll can do a good PB at DD this time and in the future even faster.
Good luck with trying to keep your HR down to 155, will be interesting to see how that goes.
I just looked at my 2017 stats and I know I did see only 5bpm lower than my MHR on my watch during the race, but my highest averages per mile were 90% MHR and one of those was walking that hill out of Ashburton and one was the hill at Badger's Holt, at 10k. I did a PB that year and I had to run hard to make the cut offs but despite the high HR's I felt good on the way round and I was fine at the finish, not wrecked. My average HR for the race was 86%.
Isn't that 2% flat a gross exaggeration
Big G - I think those savoury options are much more suitable than your choices last time. I take it you've got someone on the course keeping them safely chilled for you. I saw on FB that one of the 10 in 10 runners was having sausages delivered to him on the course. One year at DD Robert Tinnyunt's wife delivered a hot pasty to him halfway up the hill out of Ashburton.
I'm really enjoying the Dauphine highlights, I so much prefer the ITV commentary team and the way it's filmed rather than the Giro format and commentators.
6 miles, undulating today. Ankle OK. Back to gloves it was only 6 degrees when I went out, lovely sunny morning though.