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Sub 2:12 marathon - Can I do it?
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It says it is healthy? Nice one, i`m definitely going on it then.
Barnsley dude - Liverpool
to be honest, the thread was started a bit semi-seriously - "Is it possible?"
Not gonna put my other goals on hold for it, if I can do that 10mile commute to work, and 10miles back - which probably won't take that much longer than getting the bus. If I can change my diet (not a huge sacrifice). If, if, if. But hey, why not give it a good go, and see how things pan out?
"People who don't have high goals don't jump high"
What are your times for, say, 10K; and how much mileage a week do you do?
tall order
but you are young
It takes a LONG time to make a good runner (at least 3 years in my experience), and because of the likelihood of injuries, you will have to increase your mileage very gradually... If you have lived a sedentary life, then go easy at first: the head is often stronger than the legs. I would build from not to 4/5 sessions a week in my first year; then daily in the second; and experiment with twice a day in the third.
If you are going to make it close to 2H12, then you should expect to run under 35mins for 10K in your first year.
Good luck!
so-daily?
will think about it
a sub 4.5 would suit me fine
one day
I can`t do sun 26th october. I will be in saarf Laandon next weekend innit! Watching some hardcore bands
http://www.bro-network.org/ninjafest/
I think the next proper race I am doing is braids hill in edinburgh on 22nd November.
All the best of luck in the world if you are serious.
(erm, approximately 38 hours if I remember correctly...)
I, and virtually all the players I used to know, started playing before they reached their teens. And I think it is fair to say that we all had been genetically endowed with excellent hand-eye-coordination. I think it is fair to say that if someone had started from scratch and devoted themselves to practicing for, say, three years, they would still have needed excellent genetics (hand-eye coordination, etc) to have even had a chance of taking a single point of any of us...
I think NickJ is right that you need to be setting some very respectable 5k/10k times before you can even think about your marathon potential. I don't meen to sound so negative, but whilst it is great to aim high - it is very frustrating to set yourself goals and never achieve them. It is much better to set yourself lots of hard-but-potentially-achievable short-term "mini-goals" than one big long-term goal. You can do a gym-test or time-trail to gauge where you are at at the moment, work out what volume and intensity of training your body can currently take, then you can aim at a realistic short-term target, perhaps a 17min 5k in six months. This is a much better plan than aiming for a 2:12 marathon some time in the far-off distance which may never be achievable for you.
There is a need for realism too avoid long-term disappointment... I was my school's 1500m and 3000m champ and trained daily for squash throughout my teens. I was therefore quite surprised to find (after having re-started running a couple of years ago) how much effort it took to meet my goal of a sub-3hr marathon for my first full marathon. I know I could have run it faster and am aiming for a sub2:45 for the FLM, however, having suffered from overtraining and injuries, I have come to the realisation that my ultimate time is probably a fair bit slower than I initially thought it might be.
Someone (I think it was Pantman) talked earlier about the need to be able to put in aerobic sub-5minute miles in order to crack 2:12 for the marathon. This would seem to imply that you would need to be close to breaking the 4-minute mile for an all-out (anaerobic) effort...
Re: Computing degree - was only about 10hrs a week, but realised it was crap and I didn't actually want a job in the IT industry, so waste of time. I enjoy running and want to follow a career in which I can be involved in my sport, hence the shop plans.
what training have you been doing in the last week?
You won't get any better by thinking about it, talking about it, or resorting to alternative means... running's one of those things you have to go and do until you're sick of it. And then you'll need to go and do some more... I'm sorry to have to tell you that, but that's what it's like: bloody tough, and totally unglamourous.
BUT, I would love to hear proper advice on how to do it.
●Go out and do it until I'm sick of it, and do some more
ok, thats the first bit of advice, any more?
And all these offer no guarantee as some people are never able to make the transition to the marathon. No worries though, if you've got a sub-29 10K, you'll still be making the British team for minor championships & international matches...
●140miles per week
●2-3sessions/day
●sub-29min 10k
●track sessions such as 8x1k in 2:45 with 2mins recovery
●sub-31min tempo runs
●strict diet
●sleep
●some altitude training
●loads of determination
thanks Nick, anyone want to add to the list?
Getting the miles in, with a gradual but steady increase in the mileage, is the basics that we get told again and again. With good reason.
Your body can and will adapt to any amount of training, if you do it gradually, get your nutrition right, and sort out injuries as soon as the first niggle appears.
Rest and consolidation at regular points along the way may help to avoid overtraining.
Erm, that's my tuppenceworth.
Nessie (6 hour marathoner!)
●140miles per week
●2-3sessions/day
●sub-29min 10k
●track sessions such as 8x1k in 2:45 with 2mins recovery
●sub-31min 10k tempo runs
●strict diet
●sleep
●some altitude training
●loads of determination
●slow steady buildup
●watch for injuries - get any sorted out straight away
●watching for overtraining
thanks Nick and Nessie, anyone want to add to the list?