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I grew up in a very white town and a general level of racism was pretty widespread.
I think UKIP do well there these days.
No confidence vote against Corbyn is out, 80% against.
Either Eagle or Watson to stand against him apparently.
But Corbyn likely to win in an leadership vote still.
Then what?!
back in 1986 I met my first husbands parents... nice working/middle class people...We were watching tv....and remarked..
I'm not racist but why do need to have them on tv .. or on the council...
they are lots around but I was hoping over the years they had learnt the stupidity of their words
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My mum is and always has been a bigoted Little Englander.Dad is not. i sometimes wonder how they ever got together if the truth be known.
i haven't phoned them since the result. i could have gone to see them on Friday but I can't. there will be a row if I do.
Of course the slimy posh public schoolboy twat (no racism there
) has actually been saying that for the last 5 or 6 years - he's just got a new excuse to say it now!
Is Eagle that one who was on the referendum debate for Remain and was absolutely desperate? I don't see her improving things for the Labour party if that is her.
Seren I remember staying with a friend and they had this lovely couple round one evening churchy types but very sweet. Until the point the wife made a homophobic remark. it was a real WTF moment.
All I could think of the rest of the night was"when are these awful people leaving"? That and "why does she assume she has a consenting audience?" in fact that was the most annoying thing.
I was young and quiet then, I would tell her to her face I didn't find it acceptable if it happened now.
But it is going to make a great book/film/ TV series!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&persist_app=1&v=kMeU_szhZ6E
We are all a bit racist and discriminatory when we get irked by someone. Suddenly your best mate becomes an ugly ginger twat or something similar. It is just human nature. Voting based on that childish resentment is the act of a person who should not be allowed out on their own.
There seems to be something very English that makes it ok to call people paki, paddy, Taffy, jock, etc when describing who they are and yet not even remotely thinking it is racist/horridly nasty.
I've been banging on about this shit for years. I was moving to Northern Ireland but now the idea of going over the Irish border looks very very tempting.
I am still hoping the second referendum actually happens and quickly. So far the choice of Bojo, MiGo or jerunt as PM is the scariest shit I've ever heard. Even Themay looks abetted option even though she believes water cannon are fine for use against protesting paddies m(her words) but not against looting Londoners.
Oy, leave the gingers out of it - we're all innocent
As things stand, the UK has given itself an option to invoke article 50.
But will it? or more to the point, who will invoke it?
A bit like accidently voting to bring back capital punishment, then realising no one has the nerve to pull the lever to do the job.
Incidentally, did you realise the French last attempted to guillotine someone in 1977!
Meanwhile, the stock market is on the way back up, and the pound strengthens against other currencies.
As for the returning England football team, now is the time to give them their 'send off'.
A question of timing. As are many things.
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Didn't you know JT, this is Britain's new slogan
To be fair my computer when I delete something always asks me if I'm sure before permanently deleting it. That I'm an incompetent idiot is accounted for in the programming. Perhaps it wouldn't be a bad thing, now everyone's actually paying attention, to double check what we want to do.
Another annoyance with Farage and his fellow UKIPers is they want the whole EU project to fail. Can't he just leave alone now he's got us out?
Apparently my Dad has been ill, he is consumed with guilt for voting leave due to the barrage of emails from his children. Whoops.
I wonder how many people were under the impression that an 'out' result would mean the UK was 'out' the following day?
In the meantime, the vote allowed the inner,
out of the box.
The immigrants I've spoken to are both worried and confused about this development.
Don't worry, he won't survive unless you feed the bastard.
Must be embarrassing for those who revealed their inner racist. I mean, I stood there as someone laid into immigrants assuming I was in agreement.
Well, I try not to get emotionally charged over things outside my control, which; unless you can stop thinking, is difficult despite the tactic working.
Anyway, I was feeling a tad bored so I casually mentioned I was married to an immigrant. Well it's true, I am.
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VDOT - Let's agree for a moment to swap the word "admit" for the word "tell"
Now then, I would imagine there are few who would actually "tell" people the way they voted in any general election so why this one would be any different? The result only came as a "surprise" because the pollsters got it wrong
I voted Tory in the last election because I thought it was way too soon to let the other lot back into mummy's purse, not because I am a "closet racist" or a "nasty twunt".
It is also interesting to reflect, is it not, that the very referendum in which so many vented their spleen was probably won by the Labour voters who, in voting Labour, never actually voted to have a referendum.
And are both those things also not proof that there are no simple answers to complex questions and that is why referendums such a bad idea?
They are banned in Germany you know?
They need it to fail completely because it would vindicate their position that it's all corrupt and we're better off out of it. A prospering EU alongside an independent UK (regardless of how well we're doing) wouldn't so that.
Completely. Especially this one when the implications were totally unknown. It's crazy.
...the Torys stood at the last election (partly) on a pledge to hold the referendum so you ,perhaps unwittingly, voted for this at least being an option. On that basis It seems a bit odd to suggest that referendums are dangerous. You voted for it, as I would wager did lots of 'traditional labour' voters who wanted to vote their foreign neighbours and workmates out of the country so they could claim their homes, cars and business.
We are in a very deep pit and voting conservative put us here. No other party would have given the option Leave. Hopefully this will make the Tory 'twunts' unelectable...if society remains intact that is.
As long as there is no decent opposition the Tories are safe.
Someone once said that the electoral success of the Conservative Party is based on persuading working people to vote for it when that is not in their interests.
I see that Stephen Crabbe and Sajid Javid are mulling a run on a joint "blue collar" ticket, as Tories from humble backgrounds who have made good. And this is another reason for the Tories' enduring success: people make good, think it's all through their own hard work in isolation (nothing to do with luck, or the policies of the govt of the day, or connections), and then they shit on those still below them. Javid is a case in point, with the Trade Union bill and his lack of interest in Port Talbot.
(And given the timescale and their ages, they would both have enjoyed their progress from poverty to prosperity under a Labour government.)