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Providing it's not a Michael Lush moment.
This business is looking more and more like a branch of the entertainment industry.
I've started drinking already. Yes, it's early.
Expect pseudo sage comments coming at you from around the 'u' bend anytime soon.
In the meantime, I'm off to mow some lawns.
Half cut!
Or will be if I get any worse.
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It must be great being a political journalist right now. It's just all your Christmas' at once.
Curious to know what leave supporters make of the rolling news. From what I've seen online it's a bit mix of contempt/mistrust of the "media agenda", glee at the bankers/lefties/establishment getting stuffed, and not giving a shit.
And Raheem Stirling is back in the England team. Apparently he didn't feel he could work under Corbyn and tended his resignation.
We are fooked.
I've asked what that actually means and he's gone quiet...
Raheem Sterling is spelt the same as GBP - I thought it was a joke at first but think now you just don't know how to spell his name. If he is key to an England victory tonight then I could draw the conclusion that sometimes things work out better than some people think they will.
Re rolling news you are obviously choosing to ignore Mervyn King's fairly calm words.
'There's a lot of uncertainty and in the short run that will probably affect investment, particularly investment from foreign companies wanting to come to this country. But as for the long run we really don't know. My guess, and it can be no more than that, is that actually the difference between being in or out in terms of the level of GDP or its growth rate, it would be much smaller than either side pretend and in 25 years' time we'll look back and say a little bit, that at least in economic terms, maybe that was a bit of a fuss about nothing.'
And also
"I don't think people should be particularly worried, markets move up, markets move down," says the former Bank of England governor Mervyn King.
"We don't yet know where they will find their level and the whole aspect of volatility is that there is a trial and error process going on before markets discover what the right level of stock markets and exchange rates actually are," he says in an interview with BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg.
"What we need is a bit of calm now, there's no reason for any of us to panic."
Mervyn KingFormer Bank of England governor
Mervyn King, so called "expert".
Well I thought the Remain lot would like that.
I'm not cross but the media and politicians are really letting us down and when I read this thread and many of your comments (and others) it reads like you are hyperventilating.
It's going to be months before anything very much happens - calm down and wait and see how it all shakes out. The media don't want you to do that because then they'll have to earn their money filling the 24 hours a day.
If England or Wales win the Euros or Murray wins Wimbledon this will almost be forgotten in a couple of weeks (I jest but you know what I mean).
He's been criticising all the scaremongering throughout the campaign. We'll see if he's right. Things are in flux...all depends on what deal we come up with in the EU, which depends on who's in charge and who's doing the negotiating and how severely the EU wants to punish us for being naughty.
I didn't know I was coming across as panic. I thought I was being playful, charming and devastatingly erudite. Bugger.
But SFF, the leavers aren't expecting to wait months because Dave said he would trigger Article 50 on day one. Quite a lot of them are not long term thinkers. "Wait" is not a concept they really get.
Remainers don't need to be placated, they don't care if it is never triggered. But Johnson and Gove have to manage the expectations of their own side who, at the end of it, are not actually going to get what they voted for.
Think, for a moment, about what a powder keg that is, no wonder they look shit scared.
They absolutely have to buy time while, at the same time, being urged to get on with it . At the moment they are only disliked by the opposite side - but they could end up being universally detested with their own side possibly being the biggest danger.
As for Farage - well, he's never really tried to hide what he is and has never been widely popular - he might end up getting off lightly by comparison.
But imagine having to live with all this. I do hope they all think it was worth it! If it was me I doubt I would ever sleep again.
Your stereotyping is misleading and continues the trend of discussing the 17.4 million stupid numpties who live in this country. There is a faction within the leave group that is xenophobic/racist, I am unclear how large that faction is as I suspect are you. Policy and timetables will not be set to appease people who act outside the law other than to control them and bring them back within the law.
I have seen a lot of people who did vote remain on the TV who do seem to need placated but I presume this is again only a small faction of the 16.1 million.
Based on a lot of what you have said I doubt you are too worried about Boris, Gove or Farage so no need for you to lose any sleep over their responsibilities.
They voted leave to break up the evil, neo-liberal, undemocatic behemoth and build a socialist utopia where we all work on co-operative farms.
Do you stamps to collect if you work on a co-operative farm ?
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Which is why I said quite a lot of theM, SFF, not all of them. And quite lot of them are stupid and you can keep bringing it up but I'm not about to change what I think.i don't know what adjective to apply to the protest voters who have now changed their minds but there are plenty of them too. Gas engineer called today, regrets voting to leave, so does his mate. He was Polish by the way - I can't even begin to explain that.
BTW with regard to Gove and Johnson I was merely theorising on why they look shit scared, IMO they should be. it wasn't sympathy and no you are right, I won't be losing any sleep over them.
On the plus side - job creation in Westminster - imagine how many civil servants are going to be needed to sort all this out.
Get your application forms in!
Bit disappointed not to have heard from Jeremy
Those horrid, european bureaucrats have told Boris to stick his single market plans up his big, fat bum.
Channel 4 news has been essential viewing tonight.
So "Project Fear" had ended has it Boris.? Perhaps you ought to go up snd talk to the Poles in Huntingdon.
Also not quite buying the bit about "pensions being safe" and "the pound not falling."
Meanwhile Jeremy is preaching to the converted outside Parliament and managing to avoid discussion if the referendum as if it never happened, never mind the meltdown going on behind him in the House.
I am beginning to think they must both be quite mad, I mean has the water supply there been contaminated or something?
I hope the grass roots labour members protect Corbyn and keep him as leader and then callously slaughter all the detractors by removing them from their constituencies.
The tories will probably l have another referendum if boris takes over as he does not have to steel to go through with what he pretended to want. He is done.
At least we've still got the football...oh...hang on...
Yup, England have voted 'out' with their feet.
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