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DLR - no. the timing is specific, but not for muscle recovery (although like that idea!). It's diet control. My worst out-of-control period is between dinner (supper) and bed. So if I have my protein shake about an hour after dinner, it satisfies my "hunger" and chocolate craving and I don't go nuts on other stuff. But, in order to aid muscle recovery, I do have a 4:1 carb
rotein shake (Endurox name brand) after every run over 60 minutes. One scoop for an easy run, two scoops for a long or hard run.
I might need to do this:
http://www.runnersworld.com/general-interest/runners-eat-342000-doughnuts
I see an emoticon gets inserted even when I dont want one. That was meant to be a 4:1 carb : protein shake.
GROUNDHOG DAY!
Hang in there, TJB...You've only got 3+ more weeks of this and then the taper..
That's a frightening thought. Don't feel like I've even started training for this yet!
In terms of the LSR theory, not sure if there is an answer but how does this work? How does your body decide that it needs to use more fat instead of glycogen? is there anything that can be done / eaten to reduce the chances of feeling rubbish by 15 odd miles?
Am planning on fitting in a few more 16 odd milers before the race (on top of the 20 miler - my longest distance that i will run) and would be useful to know how best to prepare. I know everyone is different but are there any specific types of food etc. i should eat on the day / day before that would help or is it generally pasta and some protien etc?
Thanks - this is a great thread! really helpful reading through all the posts.
Time is flying - I can't believe it's that close. I have my last long run (32km/20 miles) planned for 24th of March and then it's taper from then on. Scary thought!
Vicky - The more long runs you do the more you adapt to them. As for eating on the day I'd recommend eating what you do prior to your long training runs. Never introduce something new on race day, as you never know if it will agree with you or not. Your body moves to fat when it runs out of glycogen. Part of the long runs in training is to get used to that happening.
The day before most folk carb load, but I think it's wise to make sure you don't over eat. Also try and stick with what you know. It's the training you put in that will see you through the day, not a magical meal the night before. Last year there was a couple of forum carb loading meet ups the night before the race. It's a good way to ease any pre-race nerves and put faces to names.
jimbob's tip of the week. (from experience) - have a good nights sleep before an LSR -= fun enjoyable relaxing spiritual long run.
Bad nights sleep = grumpy features for the next 2 days!
btw not so sure about carb "loading" - but if you are the kind of person who doesn't eat that much carbs like me then it's adviseable to have a few more carbs in your meal than you usually would the night before, plus some porridge before you set off - plus i benefit of quoffing some carbs within 30 minutes of getting back from the long run.
Carb loading is probably a bad term. The way I see it is do what you would prior to your long runs. Your long training runs should be used as practice for race day. I always eat a carb based meal the night before my long runs.
The last thing you should be doing before the race is introducing new things to your diet, be that the night before, race morning or in race refuelling. I'm pretty sure at least one person last year who had an apartment cooked their own meal the night before to ensure it was exactly what they eat when training.
That would be me
Risotto round our gaff again this year if anybody wants any....
mmm lemon chicken n rocket risotto with a dash of parmesan
Now you lot are just making me hungry!
spaghetti bologneighhhhh anybody?
Me and thee both!
I'll give that a try. At the moment I'm trying to quash cravings like that by going for a walk for half hour. By that time I'm either over it or I've more or less earned it!
Hi Everyone. Just thought I'd come and say hello. I'm running Paris with you all in April. I had a go last year but didn't get the time I was after so having another go this year. Looking forward to hearing eveyone's chat.
Sarah, Welcome on board. Hopefully we will get the time you want this year.
Sarah - Welcome to the thread. What time are you chasing?
Well I managed to go for a very slow run and didn't die, so I'm counting that as progress!
DLR and Dannirr - score another for that out-of-control period... What protein shakes do you guys use?
8 weeks - and it'll all be over!
Eggy - I'm looking forward to actually making the carb-loading dinner at the Champs Elysee pasta place on time this year. Hopefully!
Lots of new folks on the thread in the last few days - hello all! I've just 'outed' a new colleague at work who, it transpires, is running Paris for the third time this year. We're having lunch on Friday to talk tactics.
Dave and Mrs Dave - what calf problems do you have? If it's torn muscles, I e had good experiences with ultrasound - seems to speed up the healing process. Then again it might just be witchcraft. Hard to tell.
Gentle saunter this evening with my Paris buff pulled up over my nose to keep the cold air out. Worked quite well, although they now call me the Masked Bandit of Blackheath.
Hi everyone. I'm just a plodder, aiming for 4.30, never quite reached it. This is my 4th Marathon and really want to finish with a 4 in front! My training is going well this year so I'm starting to think I'll do it. It is so nice to be excited about doing a Marathon instead of dreading it.
'The entire world runs in Paris, more than one hundred nationalities. In reading the names printed on the numbers, one allows his or her imagination to wander. Amy and Alex are from Edinburgh. They have a joyful Scottish accent that is hard to understand. Next to them, Matteo and Luca, Romanian by birth and soul, try out their French, hoping to meet girls. The international dimension of the Marathon de Paris is evident. Do not forget that 40% of the participants are not French???'
The whole thing is worth a read - it starts with a description of the north wind hitting the thighs of the runners...
http://www.parismarathon.com/marathon/2013/us/r1_recit_depart.html
Hi Sarah - welcome back. As memory serves me you finished in 5:12
No, I'm not stalking you - you made an appearance in the Thread Finishers video last year, fast forward to 7:47 for your 10 seconds of fame
IM2 I was one of those people leaving pasta papas with a full belly, just as you arrived. I'm sure you'll make it this year
RR - my physio gave me bit of ultrasound ( I'm not pregnant, apparently) but he was quite frank in telling me that it may help a little but it's no miracle cure. Rest was the answer. A slight pull, 1-2 weeks. Strain or slight tear, 2-3 weeks. Bad tear, 6 weeks.
Went out for a pyramid session tonight. Didn't manage to hit target times but didn't collapse either.
YM - when do you go skiing?
Orbutt - through the tunnel Friday night, drive down overnight, arrive Saturday lunchtime....just in the middle of Packing Hell...
Sarah - Here's to you hitting your target. Good to hear someone on here's training is going well this year.
RR - I don't think I do much for the easy to understand Scottish accent, but counter it in France with lots of pointing at things and looking confused! I think I'm the only person ever in Paris to be asked "Please, speak English" when attempting French.
Orbutt - I just rewatched that video. Great memories, but it also highlights just how far behind last years condition I am this year.