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I might mail them and see if it's PO10. I have mailed F3 already to ask a similar question.
I'd be more thinking about it as a simple trot round job, rather than what for you sounds a proper decent lick. And it's all dependent on what else has happened, as October is still so far away!
Just glad the temps seem to be nicely easing down soon, and in fact Monday for a week, is 19-21 top temperature! Rather than being 20 at 7am!!
You've done well to get a session off today, even early.
But no, cool, or a bit cold is the superb one isn't it. That's why spring and autumn into winter should be ideal. The weather seems to get madder by the year (storms pre Wokey etc - heat later into the year), but generally still those areas.
For 5ks - heat isn't as big a worry - you can suck it up for those, but any further I find you can enter dodgy ground.
Only exception is something like Endure, where you're operating more at some sort of tempo effort, not all in, so can deal with a hot leg or 2. But it's essentially fine as it's across a 24hour stretch where it'll change dramatically.
This morning was also interesting. Any path on a slope was a raging torrent last night and so you end up with a deeply gouged bed down the middle with flotsam and jetsam (and I just googled that and it is spelt right but the meaning is wrong but I like to use it anyway) thrown up to the side: some places 6 to 8 inches deep.
I can't find a SQ on FE but then you wouldn't find me as Wool!
I ran way better in the lower temps this morning. Still steamy, still warm but without the sun it was all just that bit more manageable. Phew.
Very humid but more sensible summer temps.
Did a variation on the Winter Hill route. Out to the bridge over the Thames then back down the other side. Had forgotten where it led to be honest so still ended up going up Winter Hill but did have a little wander through the woods and a few fields instead of the standard Quarry road.
9.5. Fairly comfy in the mid 7s.
Bit better than yesterdays dribble through woods often mid 8 or lower and begging for the end!
Wool - I am josh_hand on Fetch.
Conquersize is manageable but it will be interesting as the effect of lockdown eases. You basically get 2 points if you run through a square. I am the leader in my home square but I don't always run from home so I am not invulnerable and I average about 20 points (10 runs) a month. There is another local player who runs from his office (close to my house) at lunchtimes so he can pick up 10 points (5 runs) in a week. Over lockdown, I upped my tally as I was always running from home and he stopped hitting my square (assume he was also running form home and home is elsewhere) but there may come a time when he challenges and am I mature enough to let him take the square?
Phil, I loved fetchpoint, loved it. Got exactly the same issue though. I'd have a session planned but needed to water flowers or something and I would get torn. I had to go cold turkey! On CQ, I think I'm more interested in overall squares visited although I have a little rule for myself that prevents me from driving somewhere to then run and pick up zones. That means I only run in places that I'm in for more legitimate reasons...
The real big leaders are all cyclists (mad buggers who cycle across the country and back in one day).
I do regularly drive to the starting point of a run. I've not really worked out a rule but I live right up against the M40 so if I run from home I can run north and have 2 or 3 miles before I get clear of urban High Wycombe. South I hit countryside far quicker (about a mile) but the M40 has limited crossings so I'd end up running the same path several times a week. I'll drive maybe up to 10 miles but that is about 5 or 6 miles as the crow flies in many cases.
10.5miler today, horribly humid, but got a decentish session in
3 main bits - couple of loops opposite directions fairly locally.
Out to an intriguing random grassy track in the middle of a housing estate for some reps, and an attempt to get my 0.8mile segment lowered, having seen a rival "target" it a few weeks ago
Took the 0.38mile loop sub 5, and the 0.57miler should have been mid to lower 5s, but one of those annoying ones I probably needed to run 2metres round a bend to record it!
Took a couple of miles to get to the track - and it's a weird little section in between sets of houses, that has a track round it, and a grassy loop in the middle - tiny, 0.20miles or so all in.
Had a couple of rampages round it, and it'snot flat - one side is like that cycle pursuit track event! Then realised maybe the seg is the outside of the grass on the tracks (though this pic surely shows it's inside?) .One loop the other direction to make sure.
5.13 to beat, should have got inside that on at least one go right?
Wrong.... I realise my colossal error now...i was so fixated that the rep starts from the bottom left that I was forgetting that it's only the bottom left if you come in with that on your left! Having come in the other side, it was the wrong end
Oh well
7 efforts combined, that didn't feel quite enough, so I thought i'd have a crack at getting the 6.24 pace 0.8mile seg I owned already down.
An interesting loop as it has a 50 feet climb in the first 1/3, then a steeper drop over a much shorter section.
Managed to take 5.10 to 4.40 for the loop, down from 6.24miling to 5.47. Decent lick, and should hold off a local rival I clocked "targeting" my seg...at 5.09
Managed to accidentally take another seg within that seg which was a nice surprise, so erm, romeo dunn til Sunday.
Back to work very soon, and will have to get some sort of turnout on the grid very soon.
Between those 2 things it should all feel a little bit more normal soon hopefully
https://support.strava.com/hc/en-us/articles/216918227-Optimizing-Segment-Creation-how-to-create-good-segments
I clocked one in a park with about 45 feet climb someone had smashed 3.40 pace into.
That's power.
Adding rest time into timings. That's one that caught me out today and a fair few times.
I wondered why i kept missing what looked a fairly straight forward one in the woods. I now realise at about 90% it jumps off the straight line footpath about two metres to the left and finishes down a parallel road!
So id finish and crouch slow walk across the actual finish as the clock raced on
I used to run over Hammersmith Bridge regularly (it is now closed to all) and the segment is
https://www.strava.com/segments/3312263
0.13 miles and the record is 2 seconds by Rosie McCluskey as part of a 7.5 mile run at 9:30 pace. Her run was up and down one side of the river and a GPS blip in exactly the right place gave her the CR at 15s/mi.
Nothing to do with her at all and I don't pay for Strava so can't see outside the top 10 (all under 1minute per mile pace) but it clearly is an algorithmic fault that Strava should ban by ensuring segments are long enough to prevent such.
But i do like some shorter thrash segs so i'm torn.
There's a Kingsmead park marathon! How many people will 1- ever do such madness and 2-ever do the exact same route!
That's the downside of some of these longer ones, maybe 3miles and up.
I clocked a family friend teenager who isn't especially a runner and racer like us lot doing something like a 130feet climb over 0.4mile sub 6!
That's "probably" something i could beat. At race effort. For just that stretch.
But motivation to do it solo in training? Even as seg smash?
No chance!
But with a tour down a slightly further on road, and see where it went. Checked the map briefly, job done. I'd work it out...famous last words
Obviously totally burgled the route, and ended up at one point on the way to Amersham.
Luckily some dog walker showed me to some top of field footpath and hop, skipped, tripped and waded through waist level crops to get through it.
Was glad to see a sign saying Wycombe 6 at that stage, as being 12miles In, I was getting a leeetle knacked.
Kept telling myself that'll be Wycombe town centre, so will be less for me!
All manner of shenanighans through some random woods and trails trying to follow what seemed to be an ever changing direction to Wycombe (at some stages seemingly the exact way I'd just been), but the mileage was coming down, so all was good
Was so glad to see the 1/2mile to Hazlemere sign, and once back there, delighted to have the 300 feet descent to jog out.
Back for a slightly mental 18.5miles just about sub 8 pace
Am sure there was a good half a mile more than that, as at one watch stop, I accidentally left it like that for ages.
Plus another 15mins or outside of that off the clock, asking directions, leaping over and through stuff, opening gates, or standing forlornly in the middle of fields with miles of fields around
So erm, what about you lot!
(and before Phil Minestrone J-dog pipes up - no i'm still not going to programme stuff into this watch
When work is back I'll get back to the bread and butter, no messing, stout chap, sage road stuff
A couple of 20s in there before, and once covering 26.2 on a club run on a boiling hot day. Plus Endure covering 30miles, albeit in 6 chunks.
But one thing they all have in common, is the utter slog, ruinous nature! I think you're either a very long distance type or you're not!
73 is a tidy week - sounds like Dorney will be a real bonus for the London virtual crew - a real lifesaver job. Will probably have the highest quality field for any longer race for a long time I expect.
Nice surface though, so pros and cons.
I'll probably look at the F3 (dare i say it) for one of their choice of 4 distances in a few weeks as a loosener.
They haven't responded to a message sent on Wednesday yet though...
Just common sense.
I've known any number of runners with the innate ability to run long distances, but none could cope because they were petrified of eating and drinking, but especially drinking.
They had convinced themselves after just one incident that they couldn't fuel or hydrate themselves without pissing themselves, shitting or throwing up all over the place.
Never occurred to them that the reasons may have been elsewhere. But since they never tried again, they'll never know.
🙂