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Felt great throughout and had a strong finish, my midweek runs seem to be paying off well.
What I need now is a half next week but I can't find a local one, Shifnal 10K the week after then Stourbridge stagger 10 XC after that.
Sorry about your run D2D. hope you're better soon.
Did a half today (Highworth Team Half) on a hilly course. Was well chuffed with time (1:53:49).
Just entered! Did this last year as my first marathon but underestimated the heat. Came in at 4:24 but this year looking for the sub 4:00! only live 10 miles away so anyone that wants to train on the Greenway let me know! xx
Managed to run 19 today in 2.50, on quite a hilly, muddy course. Happy with this as it's the furthest I've ever ran ! Easier week next week as got the Helsby Half marathon on Sunday. Hopefully on course for my RSM
Just entered this minute, start of a 16 week training plan: looks like something close to 800 miles to go.
I live in High Wycombe but train most lunchtimes near where I work in Hammersmith. If there is a Greenway run being organised on a Sunday can you put it up some concrete dates in advance as I would like to have a run up and down it just to vanquish any demons I have got from reading this thread.
This wil be my first marathon since I ran Snowdon in 1994 so it has been 17 years of peaceful running without that feelng of compleet and utter exhaustion at the end. I want to go sub 3:15 so I can get a "good for age" entry for Lojnodn ion 2012 so if there are other people who are on the same schedule then it would be useful to get a pack together.
I ran two halfs last year, Reading and Burnham Beeches, in 1:28 so 3:15 should be on the cards if I get the long training runs right. I will race a couple of halfs, or 10s or 20s, in preparation. Are there any traditional pre-RSM races that people do?
Sarah , thats a big improvement if you can pull it off but be flexible, it's tough one being hilly and many don't appreciate that - a 4.24 could be a 4.10 on a flat course.
John - you are well on the way now , I was delighted yesterday to find the tough Milford 21 CX in Cannock chase is on at the end of Feb and not mid march. So thats the next goal on the way!
Philip - I ran snowden in 2009 , and never again I say, if anything was to put a runner off a marathon that would
April 10th ok for me. Hi Philip. Good to have y ou on board.
I did a 1.28 half last year, so I guess I could do a 3.15. So maybe we could run the Greenway (with others too) in a similar paced train?
D2D- April 10th is fine for me but not at the 3.15 pace
3.30-3.45 for me please, you will need to get some spreadsheets sorted out at this rate!!!
Went for 11 miles yesterday at 9min per mile(1 min slower than race day pace of 8min per mile) found it very easy listening to marathon talk on my ipod, anyone else listen to marathon talk? Its very informative. Everyone on this thread already seem to be doing very long runs i hope i havn't left it to late!
Snowden was my favourite marathon. The biggest problems I have are pace and the mental toughness. I am used to short races and I need to knock off a lot of pace to do a marathon and also I have to block out the first 15 or so miles so that I don't start to race. When I ran Snowden, I had a friend who ran the first part up to the pass and on to 10 miles with me at a very relaxed pace, and then the wind and the rain and the views kept me busy and there was a gentle downhill to 20 miles so I got to 20 without really thinking. After 20 I could then actually start the race for proper so I just had the 6 up and down at the end to run in at 3 hours.
I love Marathon Talk (it's a Podcast, run by Martin Yelling - Husband of Olympic Marathoner Liz Yelling - and Tom Williams).
Click Here to go to Marathon Talk Podcast. It's very invormative as Gazelle says, and Tony Audenshaw (aka Bob from Emmerdale) puts in a weekly spot as "Tony's Trials" as he trains for marathons. I've laughed out loud whilst running down the local High St when he was on about Mr Gingerbread (listen to Episode 52 - I think it's also originally Episode 2 or 3). Hilarious.
They have also interviewed Paula Radcliffe, Tim Noakes, Liz and Hayley Yelling to name just a few. I believe they have got in the pipeline Liz McColgan too. Well worth a listen no matter what pace or experience.
PS happy to run arouns 3:30 to 3:45 training pace - I'm completely flexible.
Gazelle - I've not run longer than 12 at the mo. I don't want to go stale. Everyone is different. I find if I build long long runs too soon I come to dread it nearer the event. So I start the longer runs (building up over the next 14 weeks) from here, so I arrive on race day not mentally fed-up of running long.
Just a tought fellow Greenway runners, would it be worth us running over the hill to just by it? If we've gone over it, at least we will know what to expect on race-day. Just a thought?
Anyone doing Rhayder round the lakes 20? There is very little hotel accommodation left in Rhayder as we found last night!
I know the RSM course well, too well , so I'll pass the training run, though there is that Half from Long marston in April, it's got to use the same course.
Oh er I'm quite looking forward to 10th April
Thanks Divine Wind ref the podcast, I agree Tony's Trials is very funny!!! Also its good to know that I'm not lacking the long runs, I have just sorted out a 16 week training plan so will fit in 4 20milers yeek
Divine wind - should I download all the podcasts from the beginning? or are some better than others?
Hi Mike
I have just started re-listening from episode 1. Episode 52 gives a round up of the year - try that one and see if you like the format.
Each person't different, but I would say this podcast's got a bit for everyone, from the sub 3 hour marathoner to the 5+ hour (or 6+ hour) runner. I've enjoyed it as each week there's somethiong I pick up on. And "Tony's Trials" is always funny. If you get on with ep 52, try going back to ep1. One of the episodes has itself dedicated to be listened to on a long long run. The idea being it's giving you info as you're runninng your 20/22/22+ run.
Good luck Mike in your XC and the Rhyader.
On Marathon Talk I particularly likes episodes 38 and 39 with Bruce Fordyce (not to be confused with the popular TV personality !) who talks about the Comrades ultra in South Africa. Also episode 41 who is the guy who accompanied Ranulph Fiennes on the 7 marathons in 7 days in 7 continents. I found this to be really inspirational stuff which helped me get around the long runs !
Did Stratford as my first marathon last year in 3:40. Did Great North Run in 1:35 later in the year and based on the Calculator, I am aiming for 3:20 this year.
Philip -I'm interested in your target of achieving sub 3:15 to get Good For Age in London. This would probably kill me however ! I notice from the rules that you have to be 41+ for this. I am not 41 until March 2012 however so not sure whether this would fit with the timing of the 2012 race and the time which you have to apply etc. Otherwise I would have to do 3:10 !
Like the idea of the pre race Greenway runs but live in Wakefield so regretably not sure I would be able to make it. Great idea though.
The down side I see of Stratford is the date: it is 3 weeks later than VLM and coincides with the first track match of the season. Other than that, I much prefer smaller events to large ones as getting there and back is much easier and I love a clear start where I am not walking or overtaking men dressed as chickens.
Sub 3:15 is a real challenge for anyone - at 46 I'd find that unthinkable, I'm not that fit (or ever have been) I managed 4:09 I think at RSM a few years ago but generally running at 4:20 - 30 .
Going nowhere at the moment - heavy cold all week , still coughing gunk even now. Might get to run on Sunday.
Been off all week with this cold, done no training at all of any sort and had a few days off work too.
So went out this morning for a 10 miler and whilst I was a bit full of congestion I was more concerned with my shins on both sides, I'd taken those old trainers far too far and now I've pain. Shame as I have the new trainers , but a bit of ice and ralgex I'll be fine I'm sure.
Might do the Shifnal gallop 10K on Sunday .
How did your long run go Divine Wind?
I think I have shin splints!! It's only mild at the moment, I think it is all the miles that I have done over the last two weeks, too many miles too soon, although I do feel well overwise.
Today was a long run which I did off road with a few other club members, my shins feel alot better than last weeks long run on the road, I may alternate road and off road.
Hope everyone else is ok.
Devoted2Distance: did you do your run at 7.2 min/mile or 7.2 miles per hour? Either is fantastic.