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Talkback: ASICS Target 26.2 Team: Rosie
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Looking forward to hearing how everyone else got on..
How was the atmosphere on the course? Last did London in 2002 but watching brings it all flooding back....
Atmosphere was amazing WW, it felt to me that the spectator turnout was even bigger and louder than the last few years, but I think that might be because the last two years I was really pushing wheras yesterday was just trying to enjoy it so noticed them more. Thanks for supporting KateF. Spectators are definitely a big part of what makes London so amazing to run. The course wasreally busy again though. I didn't really get any space the whole way through, even mile 26 I was stuck behind people and had to weave to get past.
How are you feeling today FH? Hope you got chance to celebrate yesterday!
Bows down in Respect to Rosie and FH, well done guys, can I borrow your legs this week please. Managed to do 43 miles last week highest mileage yet this year and the same to do this week, the old body feeling knackered, slept for 10 hours Saturday night after the long run.
Love to do London again but getting in is a killer. Do you get in on time Rosie? Roll on Edingburgh.
Still raining here, had enough now!!!
mcs, the whole knackered thing for me was fixed by getting the recovery right after long runs... bottle of chocolate milk within 2-5 minutes works wonders (yazoo is fine, available corner shops and in offers regularly), loads of water to drink possibly with a zero tablet for salt.
Then whatever food works for you...., for me, porridge with fruit and then poached egg on toast. and more water.
Late comer to the thread, what is the Sam approach/ tactic for running a marathon ? negative split?
Noticed of 12-13 people I followed online, only 2 managed a negative split... that includes even a sub 2:50 runner from club who did +7 minutes on 2nd half. Very suprised.
Got the South Cheshire 20 miler on Sunday as last big long run before Edinburgh.
I did 4:06:53, was not delighted but happy enough now. The weather was fab, had the same experience on the Embankment later as you Rosie, getting soaked watching!
Sorry I didn't spot you at the start.
+1 on the chocolate milkshake, but I prefer a Frijj. Rosie, any tips from last week, I've got a marathon 2 weeks away, followed up with 33 miles 6 days after. My recovery from Brighton hasn't been brilliant, but I put that down to 3 hours driving the day after, which I'm sure isn't in the plan.
Well Done Rekirabbit, FH and Rosie. Great effort and glad the weather was good..... whilst you were running anyway.
I was jealous watching the marathon on the tele. Hopefully will get a place this year. if not through the ballot then hopefully through my club.
Have you caught up on any of the footage Mary Keitany and Wilson Kipsang were amazing. Was gutted for Lee Merrien though. He really gave it his best and just missed out on Olympic Qualifying time.
I thought Kipsang was going to break the world record but fell off the pace a little at 20miles.
The pace in both races was brutal.
Rosie - nice to meet up with you briefly yesterday morning. Well done on another great run - that's a very good time just a week after Paris! What will be your aim for Edinburgh?
Funny Hat - well done to you too and everyone else.
I ended up with an 8 minute pb finishing in 3:20 so very happy!
FRC agree on the poached egg on toast yum, not a big fan of milkshakes must say, tried the Goodness things not that fussed to be honest, will try glass of milk next week though. We have a farm opposite with a dairy you just go in leave your money on the stone step and take a pint in a glass bottle from the fridge and return washed later. Old fashioned but it still happens in our village.
Time to get ready to run seven steady to work, happy Tuesday, hope the recovery is going well.
Whoop whoop Minni!!
Well done reikirabbit!!
Fantastic PB Minni! 8mins off! Was it VLM last year you got your PB at? That's an amazing difference at that pace.
Hope you're both recovering ok and have got some celebration in
Rosie, great running. all the very best for your next couple of marathons.
So my splits .....
1 - 8.29
2 - 7.52
3 - 7.29
4 - 7.34
5 - 7.45
6 - 7.52
7 - 7.58
8 - 7.47
9 - 7.56
10 - 7.59
11 - 7.51
12 - 8.02
13 - 7.56
14 - 7.56
15 - 7.56
16 - 7.30
17 - 8.24
18 - 8.12
19 - 9.11
20 - 9.09
21 - 9.52
22 - 10.04
23 - 9.36
24 - 1.38 (tunnel)
25 - 14.28
26 - 9.06
27 - 6.46
So on reflection... I went off a bit too fast, I didn't drink enough for the conditions and was really dehydrated towards the end and felt really ill. My pace was good between 6 and 15 miles with 3 miles (13,14 and 15) all at 7.56 pace. Mile 25 was where I lost the plot, just wanted water and a pizza!
Now I have had time to reflect I should of gone for 8.05 to 8.10 pace for the first 15 - 20 miles and then gone closer to 8.00 pace for the last 10k. The heat really got to me, my fault though as I just didn't drink enough early on in the race.
Will now keep my focus and build towards a new PB at New York later this year.
Thanks once again for your support and kind words.
FH
Surely Mile 25 is a [revision of] 24+25/2?
It does look like a classic positive split though.
How much did you drink?
I drank about 500 mils before the race, thats was over 4 and a bit hours from getting up in the morning. During the race I would say 750-1000 mils, I had 1 gel before the start and 5 during.
I think the heat made my fast start worse towards the end, but as Oscarr said, lessons have been learnt and I move on strong in the knowledge I will get better.
FH
mcs - for long runs when i need more than 500ml fluid (that's my bottle capacity) i also carry another 500 ml in a used plastic drinks bottle, use this one first then throw it in a bin during the run - another option i used abroad when you needed a lot of water was to park the car at a pinch point and do 3 loops returning back to the car after each one, carried my keys and it only takes a few seconds to open the car and exchange empty for full bottle
easy 9 miler for me this weekend as only a week after that to my race.......................!!!!!
Absolutely Minni! Can relate very much to running in a comfort zone. 8 mins in a year is fab! Well done!
One of the things Sam said to me that was really helpful was about not backing off when it gets unconfortable or I started breathing harder in a race. Sunday was definitely me in comfort zone, but was really surprised by my time as last year's races were that pace when I was trying hard, those I did comfortably were nearer 3:45-3:55, so it's highlighted that the rest and speedwork etc have made a difference as well as the pacing. Do you have another target now or focussing on recovery for a bit?
FH, that split looks a lot like me last year. To get a 20min PB when you've gone out too fast suggests as you say that NY could be even better. How are you feeling this week?
mcs - on long runs I've done a similar thing to oscarr with laps and drinks in the car or at the front door of my flat, I find it easier than stopping to buy stuff or the preplanning required to stash on route
FH
Hi all, so is Edinburgh the next marathon for people on here? A couple of my friends are doing that, is it a good route - any tips to pass on to them?
As for me, feel a bit of a fraud still on here. Esepcially as you all seem to do several marathons a year. That's it for me for marathoning this year! My next 'races' are a 10k through bluebell woods on bank hol monday (def destined to be a relaxed one!) and possibly the local half which is in June. Can't decide on that one though as I've done it so many times and am pretty bored of the route (is hilly, tough and normally hot!). However, sort of have to do it because it's 'there' and I can't bear seeing people walking to start and not participating!
Had a bit of a sore foot this week - sole of heel. Did some googling and had convinced myself it was the start of something dreadful like plantar fascitis but been to see physio today and she thinks it's minor. Taking it easy this week though mainly swimming and cycling just in case....
Thinking of entering the Grizzly in Devon next March as a 'different' challenge. Anyone done that?