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What doesn't happen?
That no-one has ever had a child just to get a council house.
Why do you think there are guys out there with 16 children from 15 different mothers.
Satisfying a demand.
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satisfying their own demand....
Sperm donors doing their bit for society.
Just pulling their weight.
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Just to bring it back round to topic. Regardless of what your opinions of Thatcher, the song which anti Thatcherites have managed to get into the charts which will not now be played in full that's an abhorrent decision.
This is supposed to be a democracy and if people are able to censor certain peoples views, rightly or wrongly, so long as there are no laws broken then those views should be allowed to be aired.
Watch out, the BBC might try to censor this thread as well as the chart show!
can't beat the elvis costello song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6T9qp9XbRY
just to some up the era
or the other version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuPrrdRzlxc
l saw a comment on the guardians website from some fella saying that if the beeb still want their licence fee to be paid by the general public then they ought to adhere to what it is the public are asking for (in this case for a song to be played)
Otherwise they ought to ask the tory party and it's donors to make up their budget.
l might refuse to pay mine on the above basis and see what they say to that.
The song is tasteless, classless, childish and genuinely one of the most vile things i've seen from the British public. Thank God the BBC have some standards left because 30,000 or so members of the public have clearly let theirs drop to appalling low levels.
Just been listening to a radio 4 programme on Mrs Thatcher....
I hadnt realised how many Tories disliked her.that was a shock.........
and I hadn't realised how much she tried to undermine all the Tory leader after her....she couldn't ever except that she had been removed formn the leadership and she worked away undermining anyone afterwards who would not be used as her puppet.....
hadn't realised that she went to many right wing countries to give speeches afterwards to get the adolation from the crowds that she once had from the toriy party.....
she really seemed to think she was bigger and more important than the conservative party themselves.
learn something new every day
Had to laugh when I read that when the former PM Edward Heath was asked why Thatcher hated him so much, he replied "I've no idea, but then again, I'm not a Doctor"
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Wow, you want to patronise me some more teacher?
Where is your tolerance to Thatcher? Why is it me that needs to learn some tolerance about you and your views but you don't need to show any tolerance about Thatcher and her time in government?
As for my view on Thatcher verging on her own Fascist levels, what on earth does that actually mean? The only fascist I can see here is the one trying to quiten people down because they don't like what they're hearing. Spot any irony in your obscure vitriol?
Members of the tory party disliking one and other?! Attacking, undermining and backstabbing each other when things are looking bad?! Only looking after their own self interests and searching for individual self gratification?! That really does surprise me seren. I would of thought they would be more interested in the common good than one-upmanship
The BBC need to get a grip, It's the chart show, you play the chart. There's no need to deliberate, discuss or moralise over peoples motivations of buying one song or other.
Of course I can question people, that's exactly what you are doing to me. You are questioning my right to voice my disapproval. I have absolutely no problem with that, we enjoy the rights to free speach in this country. That means I also enjoy the rights to voice my sensibilities too.
I think any celebration of another human being's death is totally deplorable and that has nothing to do with Thatcher, as it happens. When I saw Americans dancing in front of the Whitehouse when they learnt that Bin Laden had been got, I had to turn my TV off. That's not because I had a soft spot for the terrorist loon pot but because we should be better that, as a species.
People may have hated Thatcher and thought her methods wrong and vindictive but that in no way justifies street parties and songs. It's obscene and it makes me a little ashamed in my country's people. I have every right to voice that and i'm not in the least bit apologetic if you find that hard to accept.
I will always accept that people have a different view but I will never accept that having a different view can afford you the right to behave in a any manner you want without it being open to criticism.
Celebration of death is normal? Sorry, I really beg to differ. I can think of very few instances where i've ever seen it. Celebration of death is twisted and obscene and impossible to justify regardless of who you are talking about.
I'm with you on this view SB.
From my own perspective I'd regard such a celebration as a failure of character. But that is my perspective. Other's have a different view.
However if you take the stance that everyone's opinion is valid and that right and wrong is just a matter of personal taste then chaos ensues. Standards do exist, otherwise we'd still be hanging people in public.
Society does exist, despite what Thatcher declared. I guess that now again we have cause to test the limits of tolerance.
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I would hazard a guess that at least 10,000 of those downloads would have been to the account in the name of Mr A Scargill (charged through to the NUM coffers of course!), and the vast majority of the others by the large flock of feckless sheep doing it because they think its clever.
In the same way that there's probably someone out there who still crys every day about the death of princess Diana.
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