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Afternoon All,
Phew... Lots of tempo & intervals in this hot weather... I salute you!
Absolutely bugger all running in Loompa Land i'm afraid.
Even managed to wake the OH last night when i shot out of bed like a scalded cat because my bloody knee locked solid whilst asleep and then did the "clicky thing"! 
But on the bright side, i now know what the problem is... Had the M.R.I results this morning and i have a bone growth on both the outside of my patella and on my femur which is what causes the clicking. The groove where the patella sits is worn flat, so the patella is not very well located and combined with the bone spur, pulls the knee cap across to the outside.
Now awaiting a date for surgery to get rid of the growth and also another M.R.I on the other knee as he's fairly sure that it will be the same, so they will operate on one knee at a time. Sounds like it could be a long, drawn out process, but hopefully worthwhile in the end?
On the upside he hasn't said "Stop running"... YET!
Oompa - that's quite good news in a way? The bone spur will be easy enough removed but what about the bit that's worn flat?
Z- we had a family get together at The Ship on Hayling Island - my cousin lives there (On Hayling, not at the Ship). Yes, there's loads of boats.
Minni - Don't think there's a lot that they can do as it's just wear & tear? I'll just have to get used to running in knee supports.
If it's any help on of my rumining buddies was told at 48 he needed 2 new knees but they wouldn't do it till he was 60. Told not to run or e en walk long distances. He adopted the knee supports for a year or so but now runs 'naked' and has done loads of marathons since then. He still has trouble off road and finds steep downhills hard but apart from that he's flying.
Minni - I've already put my order in for a pair of knees like Steve Austin's!
nce - Welcome. 22.10 is a very respectable 5k time.
What are your pb's for 10k and half marathon? What 16 week programme (if any) are you following? You'll find that the majority on this thread advocate P & D Advanced Marathoning schedules, if you do not have one?
Nce - it's impossible to predict a marathon from a 5k. I'd be looking at doing a HM now to get your starting point for paces etc and another in Oct see where you're at.
Mrs R's due date has flown round Red! Have a good parkrun tomorrow. That's great that you're getting your mileage back to where is was (just in time for all the sleepless nights!
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Enjoy your long run tomorrow morning Pinklady, a bit of a lie in on a weekend or still the 5:30am start?
I'd be happy with those KM reps Chick! Hope the calf doesn't give you any more grief, so frustrating.
Nice mileage yesterday kfc! Hill reps are evil but they work.
Hardcore track session last night Shildon. I know what you mean about 200s, last time I did those my legs were aching for days afterwards.
Club handicap sounds brutal Spoons! Is that you done until Sunday now? I hope the weather cools down for you.
Nce; stick around, a half would give a better indication and even then it will depend on how your endurance is, get the long runs in and do the speedwork
MrZ: the planet x stealth is a sound bike for the money, what wheels are you sticking on it? I ride an exocet these days but its he wheels that make the real difference.
Oompa; hope you get it all sorted out, I was told to stop running 10 years ago!
trotted out 10k round the lanes in 49.xx so 1-45 on Sunday should be fine.
Carrot - yep - I'm tapering nicely for Sunday. (as in I'm pished on beer and wine and eating pizza)
Spoons- well done, I wouldn't even attempt a 10k in 30degrees!
I am however about to do one in 20 degrees... Still too warm for my liking.
Good luck with that Bro!
Hungover.com
Now need to drive to the Peaks for tomorrow's Dovedale Dipper.
good luck, bro
enjoy your mara, spoons. hope it's not too hot ...
welcome, nce. nice 10k time there
oomps, at least you know what it is and that it can be fixed. sounds pretty grim though...
calf woke me up cramping in the middle of the night and now it's sore
wonder what it is. did 4 easy miles on it, didn't hurt but I can still feel something. rubbish ...
Good swim session last night but it's finished now for the holidays so I will return in September but will try to keep up my training during the break.
Carrot - had a little lie in but up & out the door by 6.30am and ran a good steady 10 miles for the first time! I surprised Barry B as he suggested 9 but thought I would try and push myself to complete the 10. Only mare I had was trying to get a gel open!
Lie ins for me are a thing of the past as it's rare since I had our two daughters - now they are teenagers I still can't lie in! Maybe one day
Chick - wine is the only cure for that.
PL - I used to be like that but I seem to be now learning to lie in a bit more. Sometimes even till 8 o'clock! Well done on the 10.
Hope it goes well tomorrow DD. How are you all enjoying being in England?
14.25 for me this morning, avg 8:17. Parteeeeee this afternoon
then a fell race tomorrow. 
Spoons - Well done on the hot 10k, and good luck for today.
Reds - I know the feeling. We have an office with over 200 people, and just 1male and 1 female shower. But what they have done now, is made each of the showers unisex, so at least we have 2 now.
Pinklady - So if at the w/end your OH suggests a ahem 'lie in'. Is he being romantic, or is he being a bad coach, for disrupting your training sched
, and should be sacked?
Oompa- At least you're got a positive outcome, and you know what the problem is, that's been slowing you down all these years
. You just have to mention to everybody, 'bone spurs', otherwise I would of Pb'd
nce - welcome. Are you doing your long runs yet? Thats what will help you take chunks off your existing marathon pb!
Nice run pink lady
Chick - when I get night calf cramps I can usually feel stiffness for about a week, it could just be that. Thinking back to my calf issues at the end of last year, core and stretching work really helped (and you know what, now its not a problem, I've stopped doing it so much) - perhaps time to spend a bit of time on that?
Lots of racers tomorrow - hope you go well guys!
Did I mention I was going to parkrun this morning? Well I didnt make it. drank too much last night and didnt wake up.
KFC- lol I like your style
Chick- hope its just a bit of stiffness. I get cramps in my calves at night sometimes but they don't tend to hurt in the morning.
Pinklady- nice 10 miler.
Minni- enjoy the parteeee! And good luck tomorrow.
NCE- some good times there and they definitely indicate that sub 3:30 is within reach with the right training.
44:58 today for 10k which is 40s faster than 3 weeks ago on the same course so as much as I'm still not where I want to be at least it's moving in the right direction. MrB casually ran 39:20 off hardly any training. How does that work??? Had a total smack down with one of my club coaches (I must add that he's 67 but I never managed to beat him in the past). We ran head to head most of the way and he wasn't letting me get past but I took him out spectacularly in the last 800m. Bang!
That is a great improvement Bro and beating the coach ... I reckon he'll be feeling rather deflated this afternoon!
KFC perfect timing for the parkrun!
afternoon all! Loving the new thread
So I've been rubbish at keeping up this week with posting, my online time has been spent trying to get a date set for the wedding. Never did I think that would be so difficult as we want to get married in our college chapel at university. But cue difficulties managing to have a date outside of term time, a date which does not coincide with external events being held in college, and securing the availability of the chaplain. Honestly, it was almost enough to elope there and then! But we've finally done it so we will be doing the deed on 19 July next year
I will now read back and catch up, but great 10k effort there, Bro. I already saw Mr B's casual FB post.....
OH's comment was he really should put some effort in!!!
My training's been going well. I'm definitely starting to feel the benefits of regular S+C. I did my first run outside last night and was absolutely dreading it given my experience at starting outside during a Dubai summer over the last two years, but I was stunned to get through it in one piece. Yes, it was unpleasant to the extent it was just darned hot and humid, but I didn't fall apart, I felt strong throughout and made it back in without my heart going through the roof. I must confess I only ran for 30 mins and ran naked as I was scared to see what my heart would do, but I don't think it was anywhere near as bad as last year where something called cardiac drift (a phenomena observed during those unaccustomed to training in extreme heat) left me with a heart rate of 172 at 10:20m/m and near to tears. So my plan is to run 2-3 times per week outside and then do my long run and speed sessions on the TM
Good luck to all the racers tmrw, Spoons hope it's not too hot for your marathon!!
ChiBck - hope your calf settles soon.
Oompa - at least you now know the reson for your knee troubles and can plan going forward with the operations.
Bro - nice 10km, great improvement in 3 weeks!
Mr Z - so jealous that you live right next to th sea. your August challenge sounds cool.
S.S - yay for setting a Wedding date
Daren - stick with the A group, they are speedsters, you'll flourish running with them!
Pinklady - wow you got up at 6:30am on a Saturday to go running, I salute you! a nice 10 miler.
managed 6 miles this morning, knee a little puffy but no pain
PL nice 10 miles there
Spoons: enjoy the peaks, sounds as if the carbo loading went well
Minni: were all very happy in the UK, though still trying to shoe horn ourselves into a 3 bed house after having lived in a 6 bed house!
Bro: always good to beat the coach
SS: running in a Dubai summer is an acquired taste!
Cycled with the club this morning for a brisk 54 miles with 5200 of climbing, pehaps not the best plan the day before a 1/2
just trying the wine cure now, minni my kinda remedy
kfc: I do some regular core sessions, admittedly not much but 10-15 mins twice a week. but I dont stretch nearly as much as I ought to
Seems to be a very active thread this!
Brief pop iin
minni- good luck ttomorrow . Good run today
bro- fast 10k and good to see you put the coach in his pplace
chick- hope its nothing sserious
nce- welcome- put your speed with lots of long runs and sub 3.15 is on the cards
DD- hardcore stuff enjoy the HM- rain should help
Spoons- can't say I'd want to run a marathon tomorrow. Enjoy
SS- isn't running naked in Dubai going to get you arrested? Glad it's going well
Kiwi- ice the knee
28mile bike yesterday. Rest today- Garstang Agriculture show and nearly bought some alpacas.... But i put my foot down. Will try another run tomorrow.
DD and Spoons- good luck today.
SS- well done on your run, I'm full of nothing but admiration. No way I could run in Dubai in the summer. Yay on getting the wedding dates sorted!
2Old- lol about the alpacas. How is the not so mini piglet doing by the way?
nce- yes, we're very active both on the running and drinking front.
Minni- how is the head this morning after the parteee?
Rest day today but tempted to go for a short plod.
Good luck racers....
2old - You could make some very trendie après run clothing out of them!