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P&D Spring Marathon Training Thread
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wow busy on here for last few days! well done everyone on racing times! awesome.
back to the P&D schedule now - ouch!
Thanks for advice on Pirifermoris - using a cricket ball at present! Looks a bit weird, but hey if it works who cares. I did 15 miles sat and 8 miles hills sunday!
Dr Dan- May i remind you the schdule says 'rest OR cross train'- not take another lazy arse day off
I am away with work Thursday which therfore means my entire week has to be pulled about, Kicking off today with 11 miles then LT on Wednesday. Suits fine as had a complete rest yesterday.
... or maybe you didn't run fast enough during the race?
I thought a "lazy arse day off" was a rest day? I'm good at those!
Nose Nowt - HEY!
PDSMers - remember Jantastic.
Mennania do you mean what time do you need to get a ranking? For guys it is sub 90 for the half and I think sub 3:10 for the marathon. All the other common distances have times as well. You can find out the cut-off by looking at the slowest time in the ranking table (there may be an easier way!)
Ranking table is here: http://www.runbritainrankings.com/rankings/rankinglist.aspx?event=HM&agegroup=ALL&sex=M&year=2014
The rankings also appear on your PO10 profile page.
I believe the easier way is to look at the top of the list where it says:
HM Men Overall 2014 to 90:00
suggesting that the cut-off is 90:00.
How do you get on these rankingas as i have met the qualifying times but dont show on there, but friends of mine have not met the times and they are on there? Do you have to be a club member?
3.10 for a mara has to be a good B target and incentive to keep going if the GFA is beyond me!
It also depends on your age as well. There are v40 rankings where for example the 10k time drops from 40 min to 42.
Are you looking for yourself in the right year, Wenty?
Also, your slower friends can have a profile but they won't have a national ranking if they haven't run fast enough times.
it also depends whether the races you have met the times in are fully uka governed adnd have a full cert of accuracy. I did a 10k in september and was quite a big one and was uka governed but it had a slightly odd cert of accuracy so did not count for ranking.
Ah, that's true - if they're multi-terrain they don't count, for example.
As regards ranking times, I think the limits depend on age as well as gender.
Nearly all the races i have done are approved "big" races and meet their standards, but I am not shown and neither are a few others i know who are quicker than me. I presume you must need an affiliated number as everyone i know in a club is on there and most non club runners are not. on PO10 and run britain.
You'll smash it Chick! If it snows, then the HRM and running to "effort" should do just fine (I bought some YaxTrax Pros this year ... so it probably won't snow here).
So P&D veterans ... how many have you run a successful marathon and stuck to the 2 x 20M long runs without being temp[ted to to a 4th or 5th, or without being tempted to extend the 20 to 22, 24 etc. Come on, 'fess up!
This is my first time with P&D ... last year I ran 5 x 20s, with the longest being 22 ... the year before was 4 x 20s but with a 23 and a 24 ... the year before that was 5 x 20s with a 24.5 and a 26.3 (PB year). However, this schedule has a lot more quality in it, so I'm guessing that requires a compromise on the long runs.
You need to ask to get a PO10 profile these days ... otherwise the default for road runners is the sister site runbritain.
Good question about the 20M+ runs Dr.Dan!
Yes, I am interested in that point. I am debating adding two miles to all my long runs so I do get at least 5 at 20 plus.
DrDan, interesting you need to apply for PO10. Run Britain does not have me on there or people I know who ran, but similar timed people (qualified times) who run for clubs are on there. Goes back to my point that I think you need to be a club member (or have been previously) as they are nearly all club runners on there.
Wenty- I think you can jus set up profiles on both, but if your a affiliated club runner it automatically gets done. When I dfoiscovered both sites I was surprised to see almost all my previous races listed.
I'm planning to go to 22m again, even though it's against all the guidelines (e.g. it will take me about 3:45 to run it in training). However, I do it 7 weeks out from the marathon and stick to the scheduled 20m for the last long run before the taper.
I've had a bit of pain by my right ankle recently. I think it's probably peroneal tendonitus that's developing. It's not persistent, and I don't feel it when running. It appears occasionally depending on how I angle my foot (e.g. when going down a step). No inflammation, and no pain when I touch it. I did a stretch shown here and this definitely hits the spot. Has anybody else had this? Will stretching suffice? I'm hoping to get away without having to rest it!
(since I've stretched it - I don't know it's there)
DT - i presume you are affiliated club runner?
I set up a Po10 page several years ago ... at one point it vanished and I was told that the default for road raceers was runbritain but, if I wanted, I could still have a Po10 page. I did want one, so they restored it straight away.
There's an important typo in my post on the end of the previous page ... so here is the question again...
So P&D veterans ... how many have you run a successful marathon and stuck to the 3 x 20M long runs without being tempted to to a 4th or 5th, or without being tempted to extend the 20 to 22, 24 etc. Come on, 'fess up!
Wenty - I'm on Po10. Which shows they're not at all fussy. I'm not in a club, and I'm not even elite in my own household
Yes I am. I recall doing the Bristol half sept 12 and it was sponsored by runbrtitain. There was a leaflet in goody bag that said there was a free profile waiting for everyone who had entered race and just needed to register to open it. Mine was there with all my details recorded. That was the first I knew of it.
I'm not a club member and I'm on there...can't remember if I set it up for myself or not.
I was on there before I was a club member too, but from what Dr Dan says, the system may have changed. I can't imagine your times wouldn't be listed in the rankings though (even if not attached to a profile) because otherwise they'd be a bit meaningless as rankings 'no. xx out of all the people who've set up a profile' rather than 'out of all the people in your category racing this distance in the UK'.
They've also made the qualifying times easier as well in the last few years, so if you ran times a few years ago which would qualify now, they might not have at the time.
Dr Dan - I have always added a few miles to the long runs, so making sure that my 5 longest runs add up to at least 100.