Sub 3:00 FLM 2005

Wardi

No more a pretender than me Sapper!

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)

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Anyone at Nene Valley 10 today? Had a good race (62min) except that I got pipped to the finish by a clubmate after a killer sprint finish....

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2003) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)

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Whoops... Apparently I'm not sure which year it is....

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)

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Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)

Injured for 1st half of 2004. Getting back in shape. 1/2M coming up on Thursday - would be nice to see sub 1:27. After that I start the 18 week Pfitzinger/Douglas 70 mile/week program. Looking for another sub-3 in London.

Anthony.

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Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)

Some familiar names from last year's sub 3 thread - hello again to Monique, Wardi etc. Not doing FLM 05 but still deciding on whether to do Paris. Finding the motivation hard to train again though, have got a 10K in 2 weeks' time so will see how that goes.
Good luck to everyone with their training.

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Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)

Once again, I'm looking for a sub 3 at the FLM. I missed out on a sub 3 this year as I got really bad cramp at about 20 miles and had to limp it to the finish.

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Hi Monique,

Good to see you around again - I've changed my name as I've decided I dont like seeing it in print (I neer liked it much anyway!). I remember seeing you come past me during FLM 2004 at mile 18!

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)

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Morning all..

Managed about 45 miles last week which was O.K. but mostly at a very slow pace. But I suppose it's just about building up the mileage at the mo.

Andre - What 10K is that? I'm doing the turkey trot this weekend and the way I've been running I'd just be glad to finish.

Monique - I'm doing my first tri a couple of weeks after london so I'm trying to fit in some swimming and biking around the running, but mostly I want to focus on the FLM. Do you have any top tips on training ?

Appears I'm the slowest one amoungst us for the Half, and I'm feeling more and more like an imposter each day.

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)

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Toucan - 15 miles more than me! I am doing the Bolsover 10K as it is a pretty quick course even though a little undulating and windy. Need to get some decent speed sessions under my belt and will hope that some of the fitness from Dublin still remains.

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I thought I'd aim for a sub 3 hour, are there any other over 40's out there who have done no exercise for years think this is a good idea? I don't anymore but will try

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Cheers Andre - just checked and unfortunatley it's full. Will do a long one instead.
Not even thought about a speed session yet - just want to get running properly!

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I feel like an imposter as well......please Sir/Miss can I stay??


Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)

Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)

Donald

Hi Patrick. You ask if it is a good idea to aim for a sub 3 hour Marathon if you are over 40?

If you are over 40, do not have a solid background in running and only have a few months or training before the Marathon then you are very unlikely to do a sub 3 hour unless you are extremely talented.

Unfortunately you don't really give enough information about yourself for anyone to give a meaningful answer. It is not really the right question either.

If you tell us what sort of running background you have and what training you are aiming to do, then someone will probably be able to give you an idea of what sort of timea you are realistically likely to achieve.

The time you are likely to do in a Marathon depends of far more than just what training plan you follow.

"A good idea" or not is not really the question you should be asking except that if you are not carefull, the amount of training you would have to do, and the stress it will put on your body also means that you could end up injured.

I am well over 40 myself, I have years of running behind me, although not so much in the past few years, have done a sub 3 hour marathon before, yet I am still not sure it is "wise" for me to try to train for sub 3 hours.

I was building up my milage fairly carefully, or so I thought, but have injured myself doing a track session that I judged was essential for me to get the pace I need to do sub 3 hours.
However, all my plans are on hold until my pulled hamstring clears up.

Was it a good idea for me to do the training I did?

Monique

Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)

Just tucking Speedy into the list as it wasn't pasted in.
Yep some familiar names it's like an old boys reunion, got to be our year this time though....

Donald

Sorry, just had to sort the list when adding myself. I think my years are correct, but my memory is going!

Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Don One 1:22:09 (Wokingham 1994) 2:58:28 (Bangkok Nov 1989)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)
Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)

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thanks Don for your advice on aged new runners like me. Everyone on here looks like serious runners so perhaps I should find another site. I have never been a serious runner, but did run 2:57 in my first marathon 15 years ago and didnt really do much training, it all just went well on the day and I felt like I was flying, a great feeling. I haven't done any running for years, but have kept to a good fitness routine for 5 weeks,loosing the first of two stone that needs to go, and run on my own. Am trying to get some speed, distance is not a problem, but running sub 7 for over 5 miles seems impossible! I may move to 3:15 site or 3:30 site, but not just yet, I'll try for it at least

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thanks Don for your advice on aged new runners like me. Everyone on here looks like serious runners so perhaps I should find another site. I have never been a serious runner, but did run 2:57 in my first marathon 15 years ago and didnt really do much training, it all just went well on the day and I felt like I was flying, a great feeling. I haven't done any running for years, but have kept to a good fitness routine for 5 weeks,loosing the first of two stone that needs to go, and run on my own. Am trying to get some speed, distance is not a problem, but running sub 7 for over 5 miles seems impossible! I may move to 3:15 site or 3:30 site, but not just yet, I'll try for it at least

Donald

Hi Patrick. There is no problem with what you say. You obviously have some ability. The thing to do is get some good running going and see how it goes. I don't think that the training you need to do for 3, 3:15 or 3:30 is necessarily that different other than the speed you need to do to reach your final goal.

Just start the training and see how it goes. If you are not reaching the targets you think you need then you either need to relax your expectations a bit, or up the training if you can. Bearing in mind that too much, too fast, too soon can lead to injury! (Don't I know it).

I too was very sceptical that the speed I had could return. However as I put more miles in, the speed was coming back. The day I pulled my hamstring, I was pleasently surprised to find that I was doing 1:24s for 400m intervals. Unfortunately my hamstring seemed just as surprised!

I can't really say that I am a "serious" runner either, nor that I "expect" to do a sub 3 marathon again. However, I am fairly certain that with good training sub 3:15 would not be a problem. So my aim is sub 3. I run and always have done simply because I enjoy running. Giving myself goals, and hopefully reaching them can make it more enjoyable. I have a heavy work load so I have to fit the running in with other commitments. In fact I have only very recently joined a running club. Not to motivate myself to get running, I have not really had any problem there. It was so that I could do the track sessions with others. It is difficult to do good repetitions on your own.

Good luck, and let us know how its going.

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Patrick/ Don - I'm 43 and ran sub-3 earlier this year. I started running at 37 and gradually built up over the years. First marathon in 2001 was 3:25, then 3:14 the following year and sub-3 after that.

In my case at least, and I think it's true for most runners, it takes time to reach your optimum level. The good thing about starting relatively late (age-wise) is that you can still improve your times as you hit the mid-40's...

Anthony.

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Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Don One 1:22:09 (Wokingham 1994) 2:58:28 (Bangkok Nov 1989)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)
Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
alan pitt..1:26:30(Cricklade 2004)/3:13:48(FLM 2003..first marathone)

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Hi eveyone thought i would join in on the forum did london in 2003 my fisrt marathon in 3:10 then this year i did it in 2:58 so would like to go a bit quicker next year have the champioship start which i had this year and found it so much better my best tmes are 1:23:15(worksop2003)2:58:44 (london 2004)

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Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Don One 1:22:09 (Wokingham 1994) 2:58:28 (Bangkok Nov 1989)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)
Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Pasty.. 1:25:57 (Paddock Wood) / 3:04:26 (Lochaber 2004)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
alan pitt..1:26:30(Cricklade 2004)/3:13:48(FLM 2003..first marathone)

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Helen S - I'm beginning to feel I'm in the wrong group too!
Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Don One 1:22:09 (Wokingham 1994) 2:58:28 (Bangkok Nov 1989)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)
Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Pasty.. 1:25:57 (Paddock Wood) / 3:04:26 (Lochaber 2004)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
alan pitt..1:26:30(Cricklade 2004)/3:13:48(FLM 2003..first marathone)
Zoe T 1:28:25(Lipton Ice Tea Challenge 2004)/3:11:12(Gold Coast,Oz 2004)
But if we keep on with the training, who's to say that we won't be fully-fledged members by the end of the FLM! We've got over 5 months yet.

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twig 1:23:15(worksop 2003)2:58:44(flm 2004)

Blisters

Andre... 1.20.54 (Robinhood Sept 2004)/ 2.56.45 (Dublin Oct 2004)
Anthony.. 1:23:56 (Israel Dec 2003)/ 2:57:17 (Israel Jan 2004)
Don One 1:22:09 (Wokingham 1994) 2:58:28 (Bangkok Nov 1989)
Helen 1:26:06 (Bath 2003); 3:07:00 (FLM 2002)
Monique.. 1:23:15 (Ackworth 2003)/ 3:01:57(Flm 2002)
Nutkey.. 1:23:22 (St Neots 2004) / 3:45:27 (FLM 1997)
Pasty.. 1:25:57 (Paddock Wood) / 3:04:26 (Lochaber 2004)
Sapper.. 1.24.50(Wokingham 2004)/ 3:10:22 (Abingdon 2004..1st marathon)
twig 1:23:15(worksop 2003)2:58:44(flm 2004)
Speedy.. 1:23:15(GNR 2004)/3:31(FLM 2003..1st marathon)
Toucan 1:26:43 (Bristol 2004); 3:05:58 (Dublin 2004....only marathon)
Tricks 1:23:45 (Reading 2004); 3:06:55 (FLM 2004)
Wardi.. 1:24:56 (Brass Monkey 2004)/ 3:06:09 (FLM 2004)
alan pitt..1:26:30(Cricklade 2004)/3:13:48(FLM 2003..first marathone)
Zoe T 1:28:25(Lipton Ice Tea Challenge 2004)/3:11:12(Gold Coast,Oz 2004)
Blisters 1:28:03 (Bath 2004), 3:14:33 (Cardiff 2004)

Just to show that I really am a pretender in this group and that I haven't got any real chance.

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Blisters & Zoe T - we are in this 'together'.

ps Twigs - are you a girlie? You mentioned the Championship start.

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yeeeaah got in thru the ballot so didn't have to endure my club 'dogs life' ballot. just ran berlin in 3:08:17 then st neots half 1:27:48 (preditcs 3:04) so getting closer. hope everyone stays injury free!! 6'50" miling here we come!!!!!!!!

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hi helen yes i am girlie a vet 35 girlie i will be starting my marathon training in about 2 weeks i am running between 40/50 miles a week at the moment will be trying to build up to 70 do you have the championship start and does anyone else have this start

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Twig - I have a championship start and I think Zoe T and Tricks will also be joining us.
As you have already reached the holy grail of sub 3 are you going for a faster time this year? I have been building my mileage up gradually and I'm like you on 40/50 miles a week. What sort of schedule are you doing?
p.s I'm a V40!

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I'm still tempted by the RW pacers in the mass start but may get tempted by those posh toilets, and the excitement of standing behind Paula, if my times are looking better by April!