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mowzer - not like you to miss Mablethorpe, I really enjoyed that marathon but it's such a long drive from here.
Enjoy your walking holiday, hope it's not in Devon, we have torrential rain here at the moment.
Emmy - glad DD is on your 'to do' list too.
I'm not surprised that Adam's record was rejected on those grounds, the courses wouldn't have been measured with proper course measurement certificates and verification on the day needs to be done properly too. Never mind, he's faster now so can probably do better at Windermere. Each day at Windermere is registered as a proper event with UKA and the event has been accepted before for world record purposes.
And no, not into camping. Certainly not before a tough race, at any rate!
Cal, yeah I was in Rome a couple of years ago too. This time though, I'm staying with friends on the outskirts (it's about a 20/30-min bus journey to the Colosseum) so not near the river as far as I'm aware.
I finally got out for first post DD recovery run today, I am NEVER going to leave it so long even though my foot has been quite sore, it's a lot better now. My DOMS felt a lot better this morning and I was confident of a fairly comfortable run, how wrong I was. I live on a short gentle hill/slope and as soon as I set off down the hill my quads were screaming at me, not down the centre of the quad but from hip to above knee on the outside of my quads. Managed to run 5 miles and was much better once I got to the magic 3 miles but my quads are like a spirit level as soon as I was on the gentlest of downward slopes my quads were screaming at me. I only get this after DD so it must be the muscles used for braking on all the downhills. Weather very winter like this morning, windy, rain, cold, back to winter kit!
SK - Similar role to what I was doing previously, but in a much larger company.
Iain - Great 5k and 10k times!!
Ian - Superb HM PB, you are in good form!
Big G - Well done on another sub 4!
Shades - Well done on the PB at DD....sounds like a tough course!
Emmy - Sounds like you had a great time at your marathon!
I'm still ultra training and now picking the miles up, did a 24m on Saturday and 10m on Sunday just gone for a 53m week. Doing Endure 24 as part of a team this weekend so doing 25m/15m over the Saturday and Sunday, 5m laps so hoping I don't get bored...will be doing the 15m early Sunday morning before it gets light as I might be out in the dark at SVP, so need to get used to it.
Hoping to get to Parkrun this month on a cut back week, to see what my shorter speed is like.
Big G - Good man!
Shades - forgetting the course measurements.... knowing what I know I think that there would have been other reasons why it wouldnt have counted.
1Steve - good luck at Endure. That's a good solid training base there!
That's a great idea to use Endure as part of your training and that you've volunteered for the pre dawn section when the rest of your team will be glad to rest. Running in the dark and if you have to self navigate at the time really slows you done, I realise at Endure you won't have to navigate though.
Cal - good to hear that Liverpool marathon hasn't delayed your recovery from that pesky hamstring issue.
Emmy - rain has gone now, sun is out. You must have our storms
Re world record, I guess you've unearthed a few 'facts'.
Any plans for your next race?
After my run this morning my DOMS is almost gone, I've even done a bit of housework! Not sure how I'd be on a downhill though, there's a big advantage to having no stairs to negotiate in my flat.
I had the niggle throughout my Manchester training, but it never really got worse. I was doing Bikram at the time but I was doing it less due to the fact the days were shorter and my runs longer, so I could only fit it in 3 times a week.
After Manchester when I was resting from running, I started doing yoga every day. It was only after that that the hamstring suddenly got angry.
I could be completely wrong, and I daresay the long runs do cause a bit of repetitive strain, but I'm inclined to think Bikram is more of a factor than running at this point. I'm not quite sure what I'll do about that. I'm going to carry on with Vinyasa and Yin but those classes are in the minority. I may still do some Bikram but I'll have to modify or cut out a good chunk of the poses. I guess we'll see.
Anyway, I did a nice 6 mile (well, 10K) run. I'd wanted to go a little further and a little faster, so after a slow first mile (11:14) and a slightly less slow second mile (10:34) I did three miles at MP (10:07, 10:09, 10:03) and a last mile (and a bit) to cool down.
It was lovely and sunny, but a little windy still.
I probably won't run tomorrow but I'm going to see Wonder Woman so I may walk to Waterloo if it isn't raining.
Marathon List - please add/amend - sorry for any errors/omissions
13th March
Enigma - Milton Keynes
Big G - PB 3:54:17
2nd April
Manchester
Cal - PB 4:29:29
Ian5 - 4:29
Steve - PB 3:10:15
NickW2 - PB 3:24:59
Taunton
Shades DNS
9th April
Paris
SuzSaville82 - PB 4:26
Rotterdam
Emmy 4:42
Brighton
Louey - 4:24:45
23rd April
London
Big G - 4:00:59
Iain Love - 2:57:49
Slowkoala - 3:12:43
Southampton
Jugula - 4:21
29th April
Plym Trail
Big G - 4:29
Shades - 5:01
1st May
Belfast
Shades DNS
7th May
Great Welsh
Shades - 4:44:12
13th May
Marathon de Blaye
mamafox - 3:40 - 3rd place and she did win the wine
14th May
Hereford
Shades - 4:45:59
21st May
Worcester
Shades - 4:53:46
Leiden
Big G - 3:54:25
Emmy - 4:42:59 (including beer stops)
27th May
Saturday Night
Iain - 3:20:45 Winner
28th May
Liverpool
Cal - 4:37:52
Dorchester
Shades - 4:56:16
3rd June
Dartmoor Discovery
Shades - PB 6:32:17
11th June
Yeovil Marathon
Shades
15th June
Dorney Lake 6 Hour
Shades
17th June
Poppyline Marathon
mowzer
18th June
Enigma Clueless
Big G
25th June
Boddington Marathon
Shades
But it's good news that marathon running is not making it worse.
Just entered a 10 mile race, not until November, happy to accept a £5 discount for my advanced age, so £11 entry fee a bargain.
That's a bargain for a 10miler! There are a few 10milers here but they tend to be the really popular city races so quite expensive.
It's the more flexible of the two hamstrings that is injured. I don't think that's a coincidence.
10 miles is a great distance - like a half marathon without those three grim miles at the end. My next race is a 10. I hope I can get my speed back up by then.
Cal - Good bit of detective work there to track down the cause of your injury.
Big G - Enjoy Rome. Looking forward to some photos
Speaking of photos that was unbelieveable form for that DD runner. He manages to do that high kick back thing for a whole marathon.. Wow
Galloping around a bit here. The end of term school show is looming and I'm nowhere near ready. I'm doing a dance routine to "Ego" (Willy William) with the older children and a slightly ambitious "We will rock you" routine with the younger ones... or, as they sing it, "We will WOCK you" lol. Anyway, the older ones are coming together but the Queen group is a complete shambles. They just can't get the rhythm at all. Anyway, at least it's less strain on my thighs than last year's Haka. Witter witter witter.. On a running note not much to report, just been easy forest running with the dogs. Quite enjoying pottering round and not getting obsessed with distance, speed etc. Have not used Hokas as they don't feel like forest running shoes. They are just sitting brightly in the shoe cupboard looking at me reproachfully every time I go in there.
Shades - Yes, not so easy to catch up when I'm at work...much easier to do so on the laptop at home while watching TV
Also I've signed up to my first race of 2018! Will be doing the Guernsey Ultra, 36 miles around the coast, similar to the one I did in Jersey, but 10 miles shorter! Had to sign up early as they only have 80 places (sold out now), yeah so that's in the diary already.
Emmy -Hope the winds die down about,been terrible here today at times.
Steve-Good to see you back,sounds like the trainings going well,I've also got a 36 mile coming up but guessing our targets will be a bit different.
Shades-Ive never done a 10 mile,can't think of many around here but sounds a nice distance.when you next update the list put me down for July 2nd Wirral ultra please.
1st run on Anglesey today,just 5 miles easy but not sure where to go so got some ideas now,it's all very hilly around here though :-(
1SteveMac- that sounds like a lovely race. Shame that it's sold out!
Cal - 1 agree, in a half there's that energy dip at 9/10 miles but with a 10 miler the finish in in sight.
That does sound tough on the hamstrings and while there's a bit of damage there it must be delaying the healing.
mamafox - luckily as the DD is a unique distance it's not just a course PB but a distance PB so I grabbing that! Picture of me with Bones is in our local paper, it is a good photo. That photo probably cost me another 10 seconds but I knew I was on for a PB anyway.
I think we have more years of PB's than we think.
Good luck with the show routines, sounds exhausting.
I think you'll find the Hokas very good off road, that's what most runners use them for.
Steve - Guernsey ultra will be lovely. When is that?
I have Guernsey marathon on my to do list.
Ian5 - will certainly put your ultra on the list next time round.
How's the tendon/foot, OK?
Oh I forgot to mention there were a good few long rolling hills at Anglesey
Big G - I wouldn't trust the Italian drivers either, not worth the risk! Just enjoy all that lovely food, sounds amazing.
Still cold and very windy this morning, tough running out into the headwind, heavy drizzle on the way back. DOMS has gone now just a little tiredness in my feet and ankles, I guess from all the downhills. Went to Yin Yoga last night, that was a bit ouchy but worth it as all hip twinges completely gone this morning. Back to Pilates this morning, I expect I'll find that tough
Ian - From what I have heard about it, it's really hilly for the first 16 miles, so my plan is to simply get around!
Emmy - There is also the Guernsey marathon which covers most of the Island except it's more inland compared to the ultra, which has more places and is in August.
Bringing some speedwork back into my running the past couple of weeks, doing 6 miles with 2m warm up, 2m tempo (around HM pace) and 2m cool down. Might increase the distance of the tempo as training goes on, but more focussed on getting the miles in the legs at the moment.
The Guernsey marathon is a road event, I must go sometime, unfortunately as it's BH weekend it's quite an expensive time to travel there but I will do it sometime. I also have another event that I'm fond of that's on the same weekend in Ireland, Longford.
Pilates was those horrible big stability balls, I hate them. Don't like touching them, yuk
A quick tempo 5k this morning with Rogue as she was struggling a little with running longer. Feeling good but my breathing is still quite tough and laboured
Shades - we could try to organise a Shadies trip to Guernsey?
Saw Wonder Woman today - it was fun. My exercise was the 90 minute walk to the IMAX at Waterloo. Hammy still a bit sore but feels better than yesterday.
Daft question time but I'm guessing a half marathon 8 days before my ultra isn't a good idea?
Lovely morning so 4 easy at 6:30am. I can feel my hamstring but it's not dreadful. I did feel quite tired though - I had thought about running longer but once I got into the fourth mile I decided no, it wouldn't do me any good.
Hope that new nose spray works.
Trip to Guernsey would be lovely, but pricey I think. Not this year as my budget is all gone. I think next year for August BH weekend I will go back to Longford, one of my favourite events. Achill is also that weekend and I have promised organiser I will do that race some time. Too many races to do, not enough time and not enough money
Cal - I hate the stability balls, just touching them is yuk, horrible plastic touch and smell. Instructor asked us to vote whether we want to use them, result 50/50 and she decided we would use them, some refused to use them at all. I still used it but avoided some of the exercises where I had to hold it close and touch with hands too much.
Ian - I know you are recovering quickly from your races but maybe resist doing that half marathon this time, unless you will run it at training pace. If you raced it and picked up a niggle you might not get rid of it before your ultra and it would be a shame.
Great to hear your foot is almost OK now, glad you're enjoying those Welsh hills
Took a rest day today, only because I got up early and ended up watching the election stuff, then needed to go food shopping.