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Dewi doesn't have to do gym work he's doing all that sort of stuff in his job, he mentions that when Britain was at it's best in the world of marathon runners was when the runners all worked full time, many at demanding manual jobs and ran 100-120 mpw.
I had a quick look at Florence but can't afford it next year, maybe the year after. But if you do look, flights to Florence are limited at that time of year and probably easier to fly to Pisa, there's a regular and cheap coach service from Pisa airport to Florence city for about €10 return
Firstly a massive well done to Big G for a blinder of a PB. I didn't even realise you were doing Nottingham.. "just" something you were doing over the weekend and then you went and cracked a sub 3:30
Ian - Well done on your race too, must have been a relief not to let the club down!
SK - Great prizes and a new PB.. there's no stopping you
Mowzer - You've been busy too
Runforthehills - Welcome
Cal - Geat news on the hip. Thank God. Have you tried running to HR before? I can really recommend it, takes all the pressure off speed. I'm looking forward to getting stuck into a good wedge of base training over the next few months, just going purely on HR.
+1 on boarding pass on smartphone. Dead easy to do. My mother even managed this the last time she came over.
Shades - Your friends have done incredibly well. I guess it would take an enormous amount of mental strength to get through something like that too. Are they members of your Irish running club?
Florence looks fab. I remember you talking about that before and have been keeping an old flyer for it with my running bumph for a few years now.
I had my stitches out yesterday but still can't go up and down steps properly so no running for me. Have borrowed a car off someone as I can't cycle either so absolutely no exercise whatsoever. I am getting dead fat, convinced my 2 minute plank this morning was harder due to the extra weight I'm carrying
Shades was that me? In regards to a female asking for your plan and putting the post on RW too ?
Shades-My calves feel a bit sore this morning so may give the track a miss tonight and go for a gentle run instead,will see how they feel later.
The wife is now talking about doing a half marathon abroad next year as her first,too me ages to get her to do a race now she wants to jetset to them.
Today's run wasn't great, my HR was way to high for the pace I ran, but 7 miles done.
Shades, Mccourt has been interviewed 2 or 3 times on the show this year, for his challenge. In his first interview he said that he remembers, as an elite, sitting on the side of the track broken and knowing he was finished. He says himself he was really immature at the time and does regret things (spending hours on PlayStation, as an elite), but he seems happy now - girlfriend, kid, decent job, and obviously running very well. He was funny too - his GF isn't a runner and although really supportive of him, she doesn't really "get it". This year, he was in a bad patch with his training for some reason, and she apparently just said something like "Errrm, why don't you just run?", which he actually took on board. I think there is a lot in it, to just keep things really simple, which is partly why I like the easy-paced running most of the time, as I don't have to think too hard!
I'm about to go for a short run soon, and then hopefully go club later. There is a 200m interval session which I'm tempted by, but I think those short, sharp intervals don't suit me as can lead me to injury (I do them on my own sometimes, but I can regulate the efforts more, as opposed to getting into some competitive thing with a club mate!). So I'll avoid that I think, and do a different session instead.
Ian, thumbs up for your wife. And you may get a cheeky foreign marathon in too
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Sorry, this post is going on! Just been looking at my Nottingham splits again and if I'd a) gone out at 8s from the start and b) not walked the aid stations but averaged 8s on those miles (possible at a race with bottles rather than cups?), I'd have gone over 3mins quicker, if all other splits had been the same as what I did them. I know I can't say I'd have done that for sure, as maybe the easy start and walking through the stations helped overall etc.
But it does lead me to a question. I have never warmed up before a marathon, but do for all other distances. For a marathon I just think 26.2 is long enough, and I'll warm up after a few miles in any case. But if at one race I want to go out at 8s (for example), is it worth doing a mile or two warm up to help get up to speed straight away in the race? Does anyone here warm up before a marathon?
Always a tough question when you go out slower,as you don't know how much that helped you by conserving energy,glycogen etc
I'd go to Florence every year if I could, such a lovely end to the marathon year and it's a lovely place too...the food
It will take a while for the knee to feel OK again, I don't expect it's very mobile, just time should cure it. Meanwhile don't worry about a few pounds, tuck into a few mince pies, make the most of it. Actually I can't imagine mince pies being available in France
That's a brilliant photo, but every man in the photo is ignoring you and not coming to your aid, every single one is looking in a different direction
Runforthehills - No, it definitely wasn't you. You messaged me your email address and then sent me a lovely email as a reply to an email I'd sent you.
Keep that built in defence mechanism, that will make you a very successful marathon runner
Iain - probably just as well to do your own nutrition. Great idea to have the tests done as you'll need to get your fuelling right for that tough training scheduleYippee and she's not even been on here to be led astray
Steve - just be careful and avoid sickly folk with colds etc., your immune system is probably a bit low with that cough and leaves you vulnerable to picking up another virus.
If you're looking for another marathon on the same day as Exeter 20th May, I'm doing Worcester that day and I drive up on the day. It's an early start but an easy drive as race venue is only a mile off the M5, I'd be quite happy to drive if you want to come along with me. Nice no frills marathon, rural roads, 2 laps.
I know what it's like re marathon costs etc, they soon mount up and for me I'm not going to camp or sleep in hostels so spend ages trying to get a decent price.
I don't warm up, if my legs feel stiff, say from long drive, I might jog a few steps then have a pre race stretch. But it's another element to try, I don't see the advantage of running a mile before the race, so maybe trial and error. You could try at Foxy's and see, I doubt you're going for a PB there?
Jelly - you need your food working in the cold. I've not heard of that book. Maybe get a wide topped flask and a good hot meal every day, curry and rice, stew, casseroles, chilli. Or batch cook a load at home, put in freezer in portions and heat in your microwave at work, don't be too mean with the portion size. Try increasing the protein in your meals and that should fill you for longer and don't do low fat either. Too low with the fat and it's just not as filling and you'll be looking for a snack too soon.
13th March
Enigma - Milton Keynes
Big G - PB 3:54:17
2nd April
Manchester
Cal - PB 4:29:29
Ian5 - 4:29
Steve - PB 3:10:15
NickW2 - PB 3:24:59
9th April
Paris
SuzSaville82 - PB 4:26
Rotterdam
Emmy 4:42
Brighton
Louey - 4:24:45
23rd April
London
Big G - 4:00:59
Iain Love - 2:57:49
Slowkoala - 3:12:43
Southampton
Jugula - 4:21
29th April
Plym Trail
Big G - 4:29
Shades - 5:01
7th May
Great Welsh
Shades - 4:44:12
13th May
Marathon de Blaye
mamafox - 3:40 - 3rd place and she did win the wine
14th May
Hereford
Shades - 4:45:59
21st May
Worcester
Shades - 4:53:46
Leiden
Big G - 3:54:25
Emmy - 4:42:59 (including beer stops)
27th May
Saturday Night
Iain - 3:20:45 Winner
28th May
Liverpool
Cal - 4:37:52
Dorchester
Shades - 4:56:16
3rd June
Dartmoor Discovery
Shades - PB 6:32:17
11th June
Yeovil Marathon
Shades - 5:13
15th June
Dorney Lake 6 Hour
Shades - 5:29:59
18th June
Enigma Clueless
Big G - 5:09:58
24th June
Giantshead
Emmy - 5:56
24th/25th June
Harp 24
mowzer - 28 miles
25th June
Boddington Marathon
Shades - 4:59:57
2nd July
Wirral Ultra
Ian5 - PB 7:01
9th July
LDWA From Here to There
mowzer 9:06
15th July
Chiltern Challenge 50km
Steve - PB 5:06
23rd July
Ironman Marathon
Iain - 3:29:54
29th July
Enigma Planes
Big G - 4:35
6th August
Gloucester
Big G - 3:58:10
12th August
SVP 100km
Steve - PB 12:22
13th August
54321
mowzer - 7:50
Isle of Man
Shades - 4:59:06
3rd September
City to Sea
Big G - 5:28:53
14th September
Big G - 4:14:12
17th September
Lancaster
Ian - PB 3:34:41
24th September
Loch Ness
Shades 5:06:10
1st October
Plym Trail
Big G - 4:44:59
8th October
Chester
Ian - PB 3:31:26
Munich
Big G - PB 3:42:38
Yorkshire
Lily - PB 5:07:15
15th October
Birmingham
Steve - 3:18:47
John - PB 4:43:52
Jelly - PB 4:06:20
Burton Bradstock
Big G - 3:54:24S
Shades - 5:15:07
22nd October
Marine Corps Marathon
Emmy - 5:00:09
Abingdon
Big G - 3:48:44
29th October
Dartmoor Vale
Jelly - 4:11:48
Big G - 3:57:08
3rd November
Halloween
Big G - 3:55
4th November
Halloween
Big G - 4:05
11th November
Phoenix Remembrance
Iain - 3:10:41 Winner
12th November
Phoenix Jurassic
Iain - 29.7 miles 4:34
19th November
Cornish
Big G - 3:57:50
Shades - 5:21:42
26th November
La Rochelle
mamafox - 3:38:01
3rd December
Nottingham Christmas
Big G - PB 3:29:40
9th December
Enigma Christmas
Big G
19th December
Enigma Christmas
Big G
I see Wolverhampton full and half have been scrapped next year.Depending on the date that was a possible for my early Sep race next year.
Shame about Wolverhampton, I've done it a few times, wonder why it's not on in 2018.
So you've got your 2nd ultra already lined up
Yeah, it's a pain really. For that Nottingham one, I did it as cheap as I could (£52 for accommodation, including breakfast), ate at a standard pub (3 courses and a drink, £18), the race was well priced (£32) and my car is economical, but costs still mount up. If it's a one off or something, it's fine, but as I'm hoping to continue to do a few more events, it is a consideration unfortunately. £140 is probably 4 other events, if they're more local. It's why doubles become attractive as you save on diesel costs, and even better if you can get away with just one night in a hotel
No intention of a PB at the Enigma events coming up. I know I say I'm not chasing numbers, but really in this instance one of them is mainly there because I want a nice, round 20 marathons this year! I'll be on my own for a lot of it, and I prefer running with people around me if I want a decent pace. I wonder if a small warm up with just a 200m or so at race pace may help me at a target race though? Don't know, so as you say I could try it out at an Enigma one. I'm still wondering whether to go without a watch too, just to see what happens. But then, if I end up with a 4:01 or something I'll be annoyed, as I'd like a sub-4 ideally (ahem, there is a sub-4 100MC....
I try and book Travelodge or Premier if I can and take my own breakfast, although if you're now going to have a fry up you might want to stick to a B & B although with an early start you'll not always get someone to cook for you. I can often get a room for around £29-40, evening meal, my preference is chip shop fish and chips, say £7 ish or I might go into the nearby Beefeater or pub and have a main course only. I usually take cake with me if I want anything sweet later on. I've just been looking at Hereford and have found a Premier in Glos for £33.50, race entry £23, plus petrol of course, that's the week before Worcester.
If you want to really cut costs get those entries in on the LDWA events, plenty of local ones to do and some of them will feed you too. When I did the Hardy Annual we got a 3 course meal at the finish. Some events will have a meal stop on the way round, think it was the Wellington Boot we had beans on toast and rice and tinned fruit at a church hall part way through the event, then there was another meal stop later on. The full distance was 100km although I took the chance to stop at 50 miles as I think I had trench foot.
That's the newspaper I saw about Wolverhampton, if you read down they are still having the half marathon, misleading headline I think.
Jelly - fortunate to have an off road event over Dartmoor that is waymarked.
Big G - this is the Dewi G article I read on the Frankfurt website
https://www.frankfurt-marathon.com/en/welsh-hills-breed-tough-stock-as-dewi-griffiths-impresses-in-frankfurt-marathon/
Regarding breakfast, this weekend I am going to take my own as I often do, but I think I may take ham and cheese with me for a sarnie, as opposed to croissants etc. I can leave it in the car and it'll keep cool this weather. This weekend the Premier Inn was a bargain as I paid £34, but the pub is shut for a refurb which may be partly why it's cheaper. It's not an issue though as there's another pub a short walk away.
I would like to do the LDWA ones as they seem an absolute bargain, but the possible map reading puts me off from doing it on my own. I was thinking of seeing if some Trotters would be interested as a bit of a jolly and just get around it, but I haven't thought any more of that really. Mowzer makes them sound really good though!
Good article about Dewi Griffiths, so thanks for that. I really hope all this talent keep good form over the next few months. Who knows - maybe they'll even show Mo how it's done
Today I went to get metabolic tested to see how efficiently my body is working and what percentage of fat to glucose I use as fuel as well as how much oxygen my body uses..for those that don't know, I have been on a low carb diet for 2years with really good results..
Well I'll say this, today was an eye opener. If the test was carried out in a dark room where the testers could see me, the results would show I am an unfit overweight couch potato. My resting metabolic rate should be between 1275 -1559. Mine was 2350. My percentage fat to glucose burning was 0% fat 100% glucose and I only use about 6% of the oxygen I breath. It might be different when I'm racing but all this data is at rest.. So I have got to strip everything back to basics..
On a plus note.. I had a day off work.. Lol