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Ian saw one of my club mates finish in 3:38 behind gabby too, must have been quite near him.
Big G I remember being disappointed by the goody bag at London, do you still get a goody bag at the expo? Used to get a can of London pride but they stopped doing that. Love the Boston pin and car sticker.
Didn’t go for a recovery run as was raining all evening when light. Did get in the pool for the first time in 2.5 years for 40 lengths (1km).
Plan to run 3 miles there and back to WJ beginners course and help buddy this evening.
Ian - No, don't think I'll get another race in for GFA, well don't plan to anyway. I've got a 6 hour event in September, then not sure what I'll do next year, was thinking of doing a 50 miler, but now need to decide if I want to race another marathon to see if I can go faster!
Shades - As an FYI - I noticed by watch HR (so not 100% accurate) had my marathon average as 152 bpm, which is right around where HADD says it should have been (25 bpm off max - approx 175), so clearly the effort was right!
Anyway, very easy 3 miles this morning at 10 min mile average to get the legs moving again, left quad a bit sore, but otherwise OK.
Ian, that’s incredible doing the Boston-London double like that. I have seen maybe 2 or 3 go quicker or about the same time, and maybe another 2 or 3 quite a bit slower (like me!). Was briefly trying to think what I’d change, if anything, to make London a bit better? Really not sure. Thursday I was very tired but slept well that night and woke up feeling pretty fresh on Friday. Friday was a late night with the theatre and then we went out for a meal, and Saturday I was more tired than I’d ideally like, but I’m still glad we went to the theatre, so not sure I’d change anything there. Sunday I was tired when I woke up, but was actually fairly calm on the way to the race and in the starting area, but soon after I got going I just felt it was going to be a hard day. Still glad I got to do the double though so on the whole I wouldn’t change much, except maybe just chill out a bit more on the Saturday, and maybe not set the alarm for parkrun and just lay in.
Big G-London bag was poor,I've had better at my local cheap 10k,think some more snacks or something should be in especially as you have a fair walk to get anywhere, I packed us some in our lorry bag luckily.
Shades-What makes you think there will be more GFA next year? If there is mine will be tight as I'd only have 30seconds on last years accepted times but OH will be fine.
Not sure of our plans for next year,she's never been interested in Boston,but now she's heard people she knows have done it and she has the time I think she'll get tempted over the next few months,she is only 3 mins under so could be close.
Louey - Great run. I’ve yet to manage a Shades special post-mara recovery outing.
8 miles into the office this morning. So many runners along the Thames now that it’s sunny and warmer.
Swimming must be quite helpful for avoiding DOMS after a race.
Steve - that's interesting that your average HR for the race was what Hadd advises. At least you know now what HR is right for you during a marathon as you were strong to the end.
Big G - I've only got as far as watching the Reason to Run programme for London. I'll let you know if I spot you in the race coverage.
Yes, my NDVM number has arrived, I haven't opened the envelope yet but my race number is printed on the address label so I know that's what it is.
Incidentally re Eilish and the sponsorship issue for London. There's a new rule allowing athletes 2 logos on their vests and Lucozade Sport kicked off about her SIS logo. Lucozade are big sponsors of London.
Ian - re GFA entries for next year... because London returning to the Spring date and runners now more prepared. Back into training routines and setting goals etc. I haven't looked at the stats on RunBritain to see how results so far are stacking up.
Rcouture - I meant to say a couple of days ago that your interval training is a good way to get that bit of speedwork done and adds some variety to your training.
Shades-It will be interesting to see how race numbers change also,if they stay low there may be similar,from people I know,Manchester was slower than usual so could be slightly less,London seemed similar to normal,as it ends in September,apart from Berlin that's the most of the big number races done now.
I just entered the ballot,it says results by End of June so they are getting quicker at it now.
Shades stunning scenery!!! I’m sure my inbox will be spammed about Brighton marathon following my ballot rejection. Imagine Edinburgh marathon will lose out, I ran that after getting a ballot rejection in 2014.
7 miles in total tonight 3 miles each way to ware joggers and 1.5 miles running with the beginners course at Ware Joggers. Legs still tired but moving okay.
Not sure Edinburgh has the same appeal within the running community, most runners know of the problems they have had/still have and don't really want to go back. But Edinburgh will still do well, it's popular with the Scots and tourists.
Good news on the legs recovering well.
5 miles today, found some blister plasters. I knew it was a long time since I'd needed them, the expiry date is 2018! Slapped one on and was able to run OK.
However, I discovered this morning when moving my race shoes that it may not have been the vast amount of walking that I did that caused the blister, it's my shoes. You can see from the photo the heel tab has worn through causing a rough spot, and wearing through on the other foot too. I can tape the shoe so will be fine for training but won't race in them again.
I will have to use my Nova 2's for this weekend's race. I've checked the heel tabs on the Nova 2's and they are not showing any sign of wear.
Imagine if there's heavy rain during the race and then having to wear those shoes the next morning as they don't dry out that quickly.
Taking a throw away pair of shoes to the race start is a good idea. It doesn't look easy to negotiate steps etc wearing carbon plated shoes and it's a great idea if it happens to be raining as you don't want to start a race with wet shoes.
Big G - I don’t wear plated shoes for anything but racing, especially given how much they cost! I wear daily trainers home from work due to logistics and at times in the afternoon when I’ve no meetings. A few people at the office have commented at how many pairs of ‘flash’ trainers I have which I think amuses folks as I’m otherwise very boring in business attire.
I have wore mine travelling to local races but that's all.
PSC-Obviously you're an OG shadie,what's your history for those of us who don't know you?
Shades-That's not great on the shoes,guess you don't have many miles if they're still for racing?
Now, the Shades training plans remain unchanged so no need to ask for an updated version as there isn't one.
Good luck with choosing your running shoes, so many to choose from now.
Please keep us updated on the training.
Rcouture - mileage on those shoes is about 160 miles, so not much. Very disappointed with this happening as that will put me off buying them again even though I do love them for my races. I do find the v3 slightly roomier in the toe box which for me is better when racing. But I have 3 pairs of v2 so I can manage for now.
It does tempt me to order those Cloudsurfer shoes now as a possible future race shoe.
Nothing wrong with having a reputation for 'flash' trainers. I have visions of you sitting quietly at your desk in a classy subdued designer suit. Then when you walk across the office you're wearing dayglo trainers. 😲
Ian5 - I’m a bit old school. My wife (Bobo) and I discovered this thread back in 2005 I think and were regular contributors. I fell off the forum when Bookface took over and then stopped running maras/short ultras when work got too much about 5 years ago. I’ve kept my hand (or feet) in with a few runs and lots of time hanging around triathlon events as an umpire or as a sports/event photographer, but it’s not the same as sticking a safety pin in your tummy and toeing the startline with lots of other intrepid runners. :-). So, time for a comeback/mid life crisis!
Rest day for me today as I've developed a niggle in my hip. I had a pain there on Sunday for about a mile during the marathon and then it just went away. Brief fleeting twinge during yesterday's run, nothing after the run, went out in the car, shopping etc. But later in the day I walked down to a local shop, up and down some steps, all fine but after I got home and sat down to lunch it was niggling and wouldn't go away. Took a painkiller and it eased off. This morning I can feel it but only very slightly.
Tomorrow I'll do a short run in my Nova 2's and see if they are OK with my blister, which is healing nicely. Knee is OK, not 100% but manageable.
Apart from all that I'm fine
Another easy 3 miles today. Foam rolled my leg yesterday evening which seems to have eased the quad soreness.
Big G - I think the death of a marathon runner always gives us a bit of a wake up call, as does seeing the carnage of a bad road accident and the thought haunts us for a while.
I've put Salzburg on the list, easily removed if necessary.
Good your NDVM transfer is sorted. She's very efficient, I cancelled once at fairly short notice and got a refund less a couple of quid, which was good of her.
I've just been reading the race info and pleased to see there's a 6.5 hour time limit if I should need it. And that saucisson and mini Cheddars still on offer at the 2 last drink stations
Hope you're back running soon and you're just having a wobble
So a probably DNS for me on Sunday. Going on the ibuprofen until lunchtime tomorrow and then I'll make a decision. Disappointing, one of my favourite marathons and I'll miss the hog roast too.
In other news, I ordered a pair of the On Cloudsurfer 7 shoes yesterday 😃