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You'll be keenly seeking out Duck Cock Lane because you know there's a 0.4mile seg for the taking at 6min miling soon, mark my words!
Even better if you're vaguely local - for the occasional race meet up
So glad to have got that Wokingham HM in for a few reasons - but who would have thought none of us would have raced by 5 months later!
That day was so windy, it gives us all a slightly easier target to beat next time out! Hopefully
Welcome SQ.
Just 12 x 400 today over the track, avoiding kids on bikes etc etc..Cocked up the recording again. 2pm so it was a bit hot.
Pete - I did look at the trace of your run and wonder if you'd got a bit lost!
10 for me this morning before it got hot, was the most beautiful morning and running conditions. 240 miles for July, modest but that's my highest ever July and shows that there are normally more interesting things to be done at this time of year! Aug will be a big down month for me though, couple of holidays planned and probably a decent time to take a bit of a breather as you never know we might all be 'sharpening' across Sep ready for races in October. Unlikely.
Bit warm wasn't it - I did about 8 I think.
I'm not really expecting to race this year tbh.
Nice to see Pete getting infected by SGs Strava wankery and a good excuse with the deliberate wrong turn, you must have hung back just before the segment on purpose and then come through just before the end, sneaky stuff ;-)
Just 12 x 400 sounds like plenty to me!
So I had a bit of soreness after yesterdays lunch plod but nothing major. GOt overtaken as well by a name I recognise from races and Strava leaderboards. I was saving my legs for the TT later that evening but I clearly still did too much and was dehydrated. First half of the TT went quite well but I was cramping up all the way back and wasn't able to really rinse myself. Still finished with a season's best of 21:31 but without the cramp I probably could have gone close to my 21:15 PB.
Got out early for a few hills this morning and picked up a couple of KOMs. There was something spooky about one of them.
Yep of the 8 people that beat me last night, 5 of them got taken out in a vicious Strava revenge!
See if you've scrubbed up some seg wars!
I got up pre 7, knowing it was gonna be peak summer temps, but still managed to be out between 11 and 12.30 for maximum exposure to the 32 or so degrees. Not often I feel that dehydration feeling, even having quaffed a bottle of water just before.
6 segs attempted, 5 of them between 200-400m, and one of them just under half a mile.
Mix of paces needed, three of them fairly reasonable, three of them needing beans.
The best two were 4.04 and 4.27 paces for a 200 and 400m pair in the same road. The latter was complicated by all sorts of obstructions, blind bends, narrow roads etc - so was glad to get that one especially.
A local don owned both - so we'll see if he comes back at me
Also took one off a Marlow animal of a runner. But it was a soft one. Annoyingly it led right to another one, that was also very doable - but i managed to go off route at 88% (apparently!) of the route, dammit.
One i attempted and failed - 5th, was a 200m or so job that needed 4.31
Well off, 4seconds slower, and 5.05 pace. No run up either as it starts right after a little stoney private residence, so 4.31 is some nice work from that kid, especially as it has some rough bits, and a few speed bumps.
Most enjoyable one was a romp down a half mile, 80feet drop, needing only to beat 5.40
There's a few hill segs on that stretch, but as I'd barely dribbled up there at donkey balls pace, I certainly wasn't going to try any effort up!
A sesh in this heat is either impressive or mad Simon!
Absolutely astounded by Jools climbing as much as anything though! 21,000 feet in a week! That's nearly a whole BGR training week more than my biggest climbing week of 12,000ft! And still he keeps climbing!
Usual fare for me this week, but thinking of having an easier week next week as the legs feel a bit overtrained.
And welcome SQ. Stick around! (purple vest rings a bell - I keep thinking of Borrowdale Fell Runners).
Evening run later is going to be toasty
Thanks for the welcome. Apologies for not exactly widening the field from middle aged white males.
Wool and SG, I’m based in Cheltenham, so see Jooligan at lots of races. I have though done Wokingham the last three years (1:19, 1:18, 1:22) after it came recommended by Reg and others. I did December’s LFotM 5k (17:53 or so) when on a course in London (got a few strange looks rocking into the tail end of lunch in a sweaty vest), where I think SC finished very high up.
Wool – agreed re a different July to usual. The lack of evening races and holidays has led to a bigger July than usual for me, 304M, although slower due to lots of buggy running.
Excellent strava payback, Reg.
4.04 pace is outrageous over any distance, SG.
6.5M easy buggy this morning at 9m/m.
Nice cycling Reg.
Cheers Bus.
Insane time of day to be out SG let alone attempting to monster some segs - albeit short ones.
It was 27oC at 10:30am after I'd done my 12.5M to bring up 343M in July (+ 30M walked including 3 mountain hikes when I've jogged back down) & 2,178 for 2020
Finally completed the Elevation Challenge on 75,781ft
Hopefully enough to take the V50 cash prize
Only 163rd on the Strava July Climbing Challenge though! Two of the top 10 are in a war of attrition to be crowned overall winner & I can vouch for the accuracy of their elevation data. Quite phenomenal.
Gonna take an easy week of walking with a few shorter runs - nothing over 65 mins or recovery HR after a blast at (not)parkrun tomorrow. I predict a slow time for sure as my legs are toast
I can only imagine the world of pain Tuesday's tempo would have been
Those are some insane hills, whatever time of year - just goes to show what is mad to some, is normal to others!
They still haven't officially sacked off the Murder Mile bizarrely. But as there's barely any racing going on, and Wales has a 30 people limit for anything, not sure what they're waiting on - as it's next Friday!!
I suppose in some ways it's not a disaster to end my streak there - streaks simply invite you to have to turn up atsomething, or turnout when you probably shouldn't As seen from how miserable some of that London ever presents gang look, and the state they turn up in!
Decent turnouts at Wokingham SQ - i was pleased just to turn up and complete last year's in honesty after missing the previous one ill.
5hours of driving to and from Derby the day before for a wedding, combined with that high wind, having only raced at all ONCE in the previous 6months made for both a wonderful excuse locker, but also a dreadful set of conditions
Wool - not sure how 240 miles in just over 4 weeks is "humble". That's a very solid amount that I bet only a couple on here do more than!
https://www.nice-work.org.uk/races/folkestoneHalf?fbclid=IwAR3n_dKeO-G9bKS3bN0c9NNBgtnaDIZuYGb5O3r-qYv4jwE29nCHsQkQZ_M
Folkeston 10k - 6th Sep, and Folkeston HM - 27th Sep the first proper races they've declared ON.
Goid to see some folks keen to put races on, bit far for me. Ill stick to laps of goodwood depending upon what vlm and Brighton come up with.
P and D mp run here today 19m inc 13.1m effort (1.27.01 - first 3 and last 3 are undulating so were 6.50ish, flat miles were 6.30ish), tough run, long time to concentrate.
There is no surprise people who get through these marathon schedules tend to be in a heck of a shape!
A local events organiser this way, F3 are getting some of their races back on.
A 6th September set of races at Dorney Lake (which I think is still actually completely shut to the end of August anyway!)
Usual drill, multiple race distances, high cost, non PO10, low quality fields, but for this climate, each runner sent off every 15 seconds.
The big issue compared to Nice Work's ranking on estimated time, is that F3 seem to set people off by bib number - which is fairly random.
It basically guarantees that you have no idea at all if you've come in the prize positions.
I "think", although maybe others can correct me, that instead of using the marvellous full lap of Dorney Lake, they use one side only. There is an inner and outer loop there, so it's not as horrible as it sounds, but it's still pretty mad doing that, Especially for longer races.
No doubt it's a cost thing, but still would feel odd
However, maybe this is the exact time to give one ago, beggars can't be choosers!
£20 for 5k seems a bit cheeky though. But at least it's not 2hours away
Insane climbing Jools; if races were like Joe and Reg's 'Everest' on the bike you would clean up
Talking of Reg; absolutely incredible times on those KoM segs; whatever SG thinks I'm pretty sure the big cycling segs round here are more regularly done and the standard a lot higher than the running ones. I see you were 1/15000 or so on one of them and that takes some doing to put it very mildly. I would be happy to be 7500th amongst that calibre of riders
Usual solid fare from Bus, TR and SG and good to hear from you Aley; hope you are well and your training going ok.
Talking of pseudo 'races' SG (and can't for the life of me see why anyone would want to pay £20 for what amounts to a TT around Dorney) it was (not) parkrun day for me again today. Legs still felt a bit heavy as a result of trying to keep a respectable pace for SG on Thursday over 10 miles, so ok with a 19'20 today at Rushmoor. Prob lost about 15 secs too as I turned the corner onto the canal on the 2nd lap only to run straight into a cyclist coming the way. Luckily he stopped sharply and I got my hands out to stop by grabbing on his bars, but not exactly what you want mid run! Suppose that's the risk of running these parkrun courses flat out at a non parkrun event. Daughter back in the 24's despite the heat so she was very pleased with that too
Pete - good pace there. I had a similar meeting with a cyclist on corner the other week, ending up with us holding either sides of the handlebars. Not very socially distanced.
I'd prefer to get something on PO10, to give that lonely Wokey half some company, but if I get desperate I'll consider one of these F3s. Could be interesting, having not been allowed to go on there for months!
Yesterday I was slowly trotting down a narrow footpath and emerged just as someone was about to pass. At any sort of pace that could have been a right old smash.
Luckily it was post my last effort and it was 32degrees really!!
I think that is po10 too, even better, choice of distances etc.
I have previously considered doing wacky distance races like 15-16 milers as glorified training runs, but then decided it was a bit of a cost, faff, and drive to bother with.
However, I won't rule it out if there's an option for such a thing.
Well done Pete. A full minute quicker than my outing at Forest of Dean (not)parkrun this morning.
Looking forward to some easier running this week & walking up big mountains - off to Scotland shortly
Certainly puts it into perspective when any sort of racing - and the rest of life being heavily affected is up in the air!
Illness rather than injury, but often that can be worse, as it just totally drains all fitness. That vertigo was something else - i can only explain it as being like a mix of the worst sickness you've ever had, fused with sheer delirium! Dreadful.
Had to convert the metres into feet, and that's over 1,250! That's a lot!
70miles a week is very strong mileage to get in the habit of booting.
Jools - one of the warm up miles will have been 9.XX as its uphill, not quite so steep on way back but yes all 8:XX, i was super parched and towing an anchor in the wd.
SQ - chichester is even morr competitive now as its a masters qualifier and folks came from all over this year. Nice long run and weekly total. Hope the event happens.
Ironically the only race I entered this year went ahead today. Cotswold classic, half Ironman distance. I had to defer it because I thought my wife would still be in the hospital. I would have reentered as agreed but this niggle in my lower leg has put a halt on my running.
Epic elevation Jools. To put it in context I have done some very hilly rides the last two weeks and I’ve only done a little over 20,000 ft! 7,000 today, over 80 miles and a bootleg SG style KOM on a local descent. I did get second place by 1 second on a much more popular one today, 6500 people on this one and it’s pretty treacherous!
F3 are scum but probably worth selling your soul if there’s nothing else on at the moment.
There's one in Marlow that guns down a fairly tight road, where cars park either side - that alone isn't great, but you can always sneak along the pavements I suppose.
But it comes out at a crossroads, on a not exactly backstreet road, and goes across.
As it needs something tidy like low 5 pace, it'd be one hell of a risk to shoot across what is a very blind junction! Needless to say I took one look and rucked that off.
Saw one in Holmer Green that's a straight road, but looks to be a fairly fast road, and no footpath. Sometimes it's not worth it is it!
Still did the planned route, which was a bit less polished than the recent trips to Marlow and back - a dodgy 1mile out and back, followed by 5miles to Beaconsfield.
1mile out, 1mile back, then 1.5miles down to a country lane.
Here was where I planned some exploring shenanighans to start, there's a footpath past a cemetery that should lead to the thick of some woods, but having gone down there, 2 choices, one that potentially went a direction I didn't want, and one that did go the right direction.
Obvs took the latter, only for it to end about 200metres later and see me back on the same road, having achieved nothing but utterly slowing the pace down
Looking at the map now, the other path did go exactly where I wanted.
Mile down that road, then thought I'd mess about in the woods a bit. Again took the pace down off a cliff, but it's ok, and had a prowl around, with the odd direction change, before finally settling for following a random path round an undulating loop of the edge of a field
Suddenly dawned on me I'd struggle to get back in 15, thinking it'd be 15.5, no biggie.
Back into proper roads, having seen a few miles of 740s, and while I wouldn't say it was a struggle as such, the heat and knackeration were certainly enough to make me have my usual "glad I'm not racing in this" feeling, fused with "how does anyone runs marathons and the long runs they need", to eventually traipse back for a 16 miler in 7.23.
Probably a 7.10-15 for 15 job if I'd stayed on the roads, which probably would have been the better plan in hindsight.
Even after quite a few waters I had a tinge of brown on pee number 1, though it merged back to straw colour within it - that was a first!
Quickly back to normal after that! Probably need to keep a little eye on the longer runs if the there's a potential it may be cheeky conditions, or not spend as long peeing out the morning's drinks!